Posted on 03/07/2009 6:06:22 AM PST by FreeManN
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Chambliss was wrong on the immigration reform bill. So was Isakson (the other GA senator) I give them credit for listening to their constituents though. After spending some time with Georgia voters, they both went back and voted against their own bill. Not ideal, but in the end they listened to the voters and voted correctly.
He is pro 2nd amendment, pro-life, and he supports small government. He also supports traditional marriage. I really like him as a Senator, but I don’t agree with him on everything. It would be hard to find someone more supportive of conservative values. Even here in GA.
“It would be hard to find someone more supportive of conservative values. Even here in GA.”
And that is our real problem, isn’t it?
You said — “Now I am no Clintonista but I just don’t understand rinos like Kyl and Chambliss who think it is good for National Security to have bo the Islamo-Marxist-Terrorist-Pal as our POTUS?”
It was only just before the election that I looked more closely into the PUMAs (i.e. Democrats who were fraudulently “railroaded” by the Obama “machinery”, hence their own term — “Party Unity, My Ass” [PUMA]...). And when I did, I saw that many were working for the Republican ticket, as they, themselves, saw Obama as a *disaster* for the Democrat Party and he would absolutely destroy what the Democrats stood for, in order to win at any cost. That was their idea.
So, I was rooting for them to convert enough voters, even more than I could with my contacts (of which their contacts were Democrats...). But, in the end, they did not have the desired effect or the power and punch to do anything, and Obama won...
Obama really did fraudulently railroad the PUMA Democrats who were for Hillary Clinton.
Phil Berg, by the way, is a long-time Hillary supporter, and that is the reason why I believe Berg is hassling Obama any way he can. He won’t give up until he is dead... LOL...
Rino juan mccain blew any chance that he ever had when he attacked his supporters at his rallies and said things like Obama “is a citizen and a family man.”
Then the rino juan mccain supported the bailout and he was history. There was nothing the PUMAS, his fellow rinos or loyal Republicans could do to save a candidate who campaigns openly for his opponent.
Chambliss, Kyl, McCain, Specter, Snowe and the other rinos are the reason bo is occupying the WH right now.
I don’t really care about Chambliss’ liberal rino pro-demo votes on other issues, but as AuntB pointed out, Chambliss is a consistent rino.
There is a big difference between Snow and Chambliss. Outside of the immigration bill, that Chambliss eventually voted against, what has he done to qualify as a RINO?
If he said or did nothing other than this, he would qualify as a rino in my book.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.: “President Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.”
Rinos like Chambliss teaming up with dumb demos to get bo elected is the single most destructive political act in the history of this Nation.
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If he said or did nothing other than this, he would qualify as a rino in my book.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.: “President Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.”
Rinos like Chambliss teaming up with dumb demos to get bo elected is the single most destructive political act in the history of this Nation.”
Frankly, I can not understand why any who calls themselves a Conservative, a Republican or even an American can support a traitor like Chambliss? So, ga, explain your support of a despicable traitor like Chambliss to me and the rest of the true conservatives here.
If Chambliss said or did nothing other than this, he would qualify as a rino in my book.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.: “President Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.”
Rinos like Chambliss teaming up with dumb demos to get bo elected is the single most destructive political act in the history of this Nation.
Frankly, I can not understand why anyone who calls themselves a Conservative, a Republican or even an American can support a traitor like Chambliss? So, ga, explain your support of a despicable traitor like Chambliss to me and the rest of the true conservatives here.
I think the RINOs and a lot of the GOP do not want to lay a glove on the islamo-marxist. They are waiting for 2010 elections but ACORN may screw that plan up. Hussein is lucky because the Repubs are too check to take out the garbage and the Demos probably will not do it either.
Both parties appear to be wiulling to let the Saudis boy destroy America.
You said — “Then the rino juan mccain supported the bailout and he was history. There was nothing the PUMAS, his fellow rinos or loyal Republicans could do to save a candidate who campaigns openly for his opponent.”
Yep, McCain wasn’t the guy. And I hope no one comes back next time and tells me that Romney “is the man” this next time around. He definitely will never be getting my vote under any circumstances. And also, considering how his people were trashing Palin, it’s obvious he’s not the one...
You are entitled to your opinion. I think it is rather extreme. Calling Chambliss a traitor is unfair. He did not vote for BO, and he campaigned for McCain. Yet, you believe him to be responsible for BOs election.
By your standards there is not one person in Congress or the Senate that qualifies as a true conservative. Ideologically, you may have a point, but that purism is a very dangerous position to take. Many refused to vote for John McCain because of that very principle. That’s how we ended up with BO in the first place. What we have isn’t perfect but it is orders of magnitude better than the alternative. Obama is the very definition of that prinicple.
NONSENSE!
I am not responsible for the loss by juan mccain. He is for virtually campaigning for bo when he attacked his supporters and said “No, you are wrong, he (bo) is a citizen and a family man.”
Try as you may you can NOT absolve of responsibility Chamliss for supporting bo.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.: “President Obama demonstrated his citizenship during his campaign by circulating copies of his birth certificate, which showed he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.”
Fyi, bo’s election was approved of and certified by saxby chambliss. saxby chambliss is ABSOLUTELY DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the ELECTION of bo.
Fyi, bo’s ELECTION was approved of and CERTIFIED by saxby chambliss. juan mccain, Lindsay Grahmnesty, Kyl, Specter, Snowe, Collins et al.
Those RINOS are ABSOLUTELY DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the ELECTION of bo.
Ms. Charlene Crist also loves Obama. The Dems were helped mightly by these stinking RINOs. The Dems and RINOs also made sure we got senile Juan McCain.
Charlene Crist pushed for McCain in the FL primary which sank Mitt. If Mitt had won FL, it was close, then Mitt might have been POTUS. At least he would have ripped O in the debates instead of McCain doing this “my friends’ nonsense.
Bottom line donations to Orly’s Fund went to BO.
UNBELIEVEABLE stupidity!
From Orly’s Blog:
Breaking and entering into my PayPal account
Breaking and entering into my Paypal account
There is no limit or extend to which Obama’s thugs will go to hurt people. As you know, I have a DefendOurFreedoms foundation, that helps me to pay for legal actions, for traveling to different states and presenting the case to Attorney Generals, US attorneys FBI and legislators, presenting all the information to them, so that Criminal proceedings and Judicial hearings can be conducted on the issue of Obama’s illegitimacy for presidency and related illegal activity. Without donations I cannot do that. Somebody has intermittently broken and entered into my pay-pal account and changed the e-mail address.. My address for pay-pal is orly.taitz@gmail.com They changed it to orly.taitz@gmail.org at another occasion e-mails were sent to people telling them to give donations to dr.taitz@gmail.com They were making up accounts in order to divert donations from my foundation. Due to the problems with PayPal, I would ask you to send donations by mail to Dr. Taitz, ESQ 26302 La Paz ste 211 Mission Viejo CA 92691
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You said — “Let’s start by impeaching the POTUS and The Speaker of the House.”
I think what that Republican was saying that you quoted and responded to (here) was that you want to act on things that you “can accomplish”... and get some things done (and we’re talking about things that will help conservatives and do so in ways that can be accomplished).
Now, while what you say sounds great as a sound-bite, it doesn’t work in real life. I think anyone who has even the vaguest notion that the Impeachment process can be engaged in this Congress is deluded and deranged. If they think this can happen, then they are in big trouble in facing reality.
What all conservatives need to be doing is working on things that *can happen*. I’ve mentioned one that I thought *can happen* — and it is. That’s for the individual states to pass legislation to properly vet candidates in the elections. It’s going through in Arizona and Oklahoma. I mentioned this solution before these bills were ever put through or started in these legislatures. And now they are progressing through them, as we speak.
This is one small example of something that “can happen” — as opposed to the (deranged) thinking that an Impeachment process can be started in this Congress...
We need other things, along this line of “reality” to be done in the political sphere — things that can be done and will have some effect (of which we’re limited in “effecting” right now, because of the position that conservatives are in “politically”).
“I think anyone who has even the vaguest notion that the Impeachment process can be engaged in this Congress is deluded and deranged.”
Likewise anyone who thinks AG Holder is going to initiate a Quo Warranto Action and appoint Orly as Special Prosecutor is also “deluded and deranged.”
“What all conservatives need to be doing is working on things that *can happen*. I’ve mentioned one that I thought *can happen* — and it is. That’s for the individual states to pass legislation to properly vet candidates in the elections.”
I also agree that this can happen and prevent BO from being President in 2013 and thereafter but it will do nothing to remedy our current problem of having bo as POTUS.
The only way to remedy said bo problem is to legally remove him from office ASAP!
The only Lawyer who is close to accomplishing that is Phil Berg. Do your Patriotic Duty and send Phil a donation:
You said — “The only way to remedy said bo problem is to legally remove him from office ASAP!”
Well, although I would agree with the sentiment of removing Obama from office, at the very same time, I don’t see any legal way to do it. And I’ve seen the threads here on Free Republic, talking about all the ways to do it. They don’t seem like they are working, for one thing, and secondly, they never have seemed to be valid “methodologies” for accomplishing this task.
I’ve posted to that effect that they don’t seem “real” and that they won’t work in “real life” and that’s the way I see it — which has nothing to do with me “wanting” Obama to stay in office. It’s just that I don’t see these methodologies mentioned here as viable in real life.
I do see other ways of accomplishing the removal of Obama from office that do have a chance of working in “real life” — but they can only work at the next election. I don’t see any way (in a real-life working sense) to remove him *right now* though.
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And then you said — “The only Lawyer who is close to accomplishing that is Phil Berg. Do your Patriotic Duty and send Phil a donation: ...”
I know you like Berg and that’s fine. But, you’ll understand, I hope, that if I see another way that will work politically and legally, that I’ll be supporting that way. And also, that it would not be something that I do — in that I am not in the practice of supporting things that I had personally judged are not viable and will not work. If you heard of a person who did such a thing — in supporting things that they honestly thought would never work — you would wonder what is the matter with their “thinking”... :-)
Orly is a lawyer. There is no excuse for this kind of blunder.
Everyone who contributed to her or signed on as a Plaintiff with Orly can now make an actionable claim of malpractice in arguable good faith against Orly and I don’t see that Orly has any good faith defenses to such claims.
I advised her not to solicit donations like this but, of course, she would not listen to good reason.
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