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Why Embryonic Stem Cells Are Obsolete
US News & World Report ^ | 3/4/09 | Bernadine Healy, M.D.

Posted on 03/06/2009 1:49:55 PM PST by highlander_UW

Even for strong backers of embryonic stem cell research, the decision is no longer as self-evident as it was, because there is markedly diminished need for expanding these cell lines for either patient therapy or basic research. In fact, during the first six weeks of Obama's term, several events reinforced the notion that embryonic stem cells, once thought to hold the cure for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and diabetes, are obsolete. The most sobering: a report from Israel published in PLoS Medicine in late February that shows embryonic stem cells injected into patients can cause disabling if not deadly tumors.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cell; embryonic; medicine; stem; stemcells
Even liberal sources are beginning to admit embryonic stem cell research is a dead end.
1 posted on 03/06/2009 1:49:55 PM PST by highlander_UW
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To: highlander_UW

I will not be happy until embryonic stem cells are injected diretly into the brains of every Liberal politician on Earth.


2 posted on 03/06/2009 1:52:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: highlander_UW

Breaking News Obama is going to remove Bush’s ban on embryonic stem cell research. Dufus dithers while the economy burns.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 1:54:37 PM PST by Mike Darancette (We have nothing to fear but Obama himself.)
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To: highlander_UW
I used to read Popular Science when I was traveling by air. I stopped when the lead editorial a couple of years ago denounced the Bush Administration for being "anti-science" because of its opposition to federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. I almost wrote them a letter about it.

Yet the scientific facts remain that: (a) no useable treatment has yet to come out of embryonic stem cells and (b) because of this, private funds went to more promising lines of research and (c) the use of embryonic stem cells has become superfluous due to the new techniques in using other stem cells.

In fact, it wasn't until about 4 years ago that I even heard of adult stem cell research--thanks to the biased and incompeted "butt boy" media. It's not the Right that's anti-science-- it's the Left.

4 posted on 03/06/2009 1:55:56 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: highlander_UW

Embryonic stems cells—dead end.
Global Warming—dead end.

Raising Taxes—always has been
Expanding Government—yup.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.


5 posted on 03/06/2009 1:56:20 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (I think we're gonna have another civil war.)
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To: highlander_UW

Anyone looking at the success or potential success of finding cures with embryonic stem cells is missing the whole point, which is

making sure that human embryos have no human value worth protecting, and that the lie that a baby is “just a clump of cells” can continue to assuage the consciences of the “had-abort” crowd.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 1:56:49 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: highlander_UW

Everybody has known that for a long time. The whole thing was just to force the abortion issue and give it, as well as the creation of embryos in the lab for genetic manipulation and experimentation, more cover and even make it sound socially beneficial.


7 posted on 03/06/2009 1:57:07 PM PST by livius
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To: Mike Darancette
Breaking News Obama is going to remove Bush’s ban on embryonic stem cell research.

That would be in keeping with his avid devotion to the democrat culture of death. Liberals owe Hitler an apology...he was a piker compared to their mass murders.

8 posted on 03/06/2009 1:57:22 PM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: highlander_UW

Won’t stop them from spending trillions on it.


9 posted on 03/06/2009 1:59:24 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: highlander_UW
The most sobering: a report from Israel published in PLoS Medicine in late February that shows embryonic stem cells injected into patients can cause disabling if not deadly tumors.

Don't you try messing with us!
10 posted on 03/06/2009 1:59:24 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Won’t stop them from spending trillions on it.

It was on a different topic, but the other day I got an avowed liberal to take pause when I asked what value is the best intentions if the actions taken not only don't provide any help to the target group but actually bleed off resources so other efforts could have access to those funds? I have to admit, it was quite refreshing to encounter a liberal who could listen instead of spout for a change.

11 posted on 03/06/2009 2:03:15 PM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: livius
The issue was always misphrased. The real distinction here is between stem cells derived from your own body, (autologous donation) vs. the use of those derived from foreign tissues. It should be obvious that the former is inherently safer and more likely to be effective since it is helping the body to heal itself and completely avoids issues of histocompatibility, the roots of which are molecular and by no means fully understood by medical science.

Choose to phrase the debate in those terms and it's obvious that autologous stem cells are the only way to go.

The problem with the moral argument is that while it is true that the moral choice is always the correct choice (when viewed in full context), trying to win a moral argument with someone who doesn't already agree with you is a losing proposition from the outset. This is because, as a wise theology professor once told me, you cannot reason a man out of a position he has not reasoned himself into.

12 posted on 03/06/2009 2:11:29 PM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Lysandru
As soon as we had all that clamoring for Federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, I know the whole thing was a farce aimed at providing a massive taxpayer subsidy for our pharmaceutical industry.

If this research had any real prospects for success, these companies would have been doing it on their own and cashing in on the results.

13 posted on 03/06/2009 2:18:05 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: highlander_UW

Liberals hope to defund anti-missile systems even though they have demonstrated success.

Liberals hope to pour billions into embryonic stem cell research even though NONE have demonstrated success.

Liberal hypocrisy on display.


14 posted on 03/06/2009 2:24:42 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: highlander_UW

Embryonic stem cell research — so much more like the abortion issue than the obvious.

Like e.s.c.r., abortion was supposed to cure all kinds of ills (child abuse, poverty, the burden of raising children falling on women) but of course all those problems have risen exponentially.

Abortion is also supposed to be a plus in health care, and only lead to positive results. It’s supposedly necessary for women’s health, but it has left millions of women scarred, physically and mentally, and women still die from the procedure.

But they still cling to this sacred cow from e.s.c.r. all the way up to partial-birth — more and more abortions will someday bring about all they believe it will — talk about crazy.


15 posted on 03/06/2009 2:32:37 PM PST by CMoran325
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To: muawiyah
brains of every Liberal politician

Kind of an oxy-moron isn't it?

16 posted on 03/06/2009 2:42:26 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

They all have a residual but otherwise unused brainstem.


17 posted on 03/06/2009 2:49:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: CMoran325
"talk about crazy"

The Left is generally mentally ill, it's true.

But abortion and ESCR are about money.

Abortion is the Democrats' largest industry. It is mainly taxpayer-funded (often with smoke and mirror, sleight of hand) and produces enormous kickbacks to Dem politicos.

Taxpayer-funded ESCR will allow abortion clinics to increase their income, by selling aborted fetal tissue to the research labs, which also have ties to big-name Dem politicos.

Like the sign says: "Your tax dollars at work"

18 posted on 03/06/2009 3:03:49 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: highlander_UW

But the Democrats say embryonic stem cells must be used - in the name of “science”, doncha know.


19 posted on 03/06/2009 3:03:56 PM PST by popdonnelly (It's fair to ask: did the voters elect a nut?)
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To: muawiyah
>>>I will not be happy until embryonic stem cells are injected diretly into the brains of every Liberal politician on Earth.<<<
20 posted on 03/06/2009 3:14:03 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: highlander_UW

top of the hour news

.. Obama next week will lift the restrictions that President Bush imposed on embryonic stem cells research and funding.


21 posted on 03/06/2009 3:18:27 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: ari-freedom

Hey, that looks like Paul Teutul, Sr. of OCC.


22 posted on 03/06/2009 3:33:26 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: AustinBill
you cannot reason a man out of a position he has not reasoned himself into.

Good point.

23 posted on 03/06/2009 6:23:41 PM PST by livius
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To: neverdem

Did you see this from a couple days ago????


24 posted on 03/09/2009 11:09:32 AM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: highlander_UW

BFL


25 posted on 03/09/2009 11:10:31 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Mike Darancette
Breaking News Obama is going to remove Bush’s ban on embryonic stem cell research.

As the article correctly states, it was actually a continuation of Clinton's ban and it was NOT a ban on embryonic stem cell research, only a ban on Federal funding. It did allow continued Federal funding for those preexisting embryonic stem cell lines -- approx two dozen IIRC -- in which the embryos had already been destroyed and the stem cells isolated and available to researchers.

The Bush policy did nothing to in any way inhibit private financing of embryonic stem cell research which has been proceeding with scant results in the US and around the world.

The entire issue was turned into a political football as the Democrats are apt to do at every occasion. They distorted the issue leading people with serious illness to believe that George Bush was the only thing standing between them and a 'cure' when the reality is that embryonic stem cell shows little promise.

That is the worst kind of political cynicism, but sadly what I have come to expect from the Democrat party.

26 posted on 03/09/2009 11:49:01 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: BossLady; Coleus; Peach; airborne; Asphalt; Dr. Scarpetta; I'm ALL Right!; StAnDeliver; ovrtaxt; ...

Thank you bump & a ping


27 posted on 03/09/2009 10:21:44 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


28 posted on 03/10/2009 4:22:23 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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