...even when it seems impossible.
Posted on 03/05/2009 6:24:58 PM PST by Sequoyah101
My dear fellows and you socialists lurking out there.
This is not uplifting. I do wish someone could convince me that I am wrong and that there is cause for hope. If you suspect that this is a demoralizing plant by the left you would be wrong. It is however the most heart felt struggle to understand why this has happened to us all i can write.
I am not alone. I looked to my Senator, whom I respect very much, to provide some encouragement that this wave of destruction could at least be held back and moderated...he gave no such encouragement. His letter back to me was as vacant as this one.
I read this article headline 'Thousands Rally in New York" and was pleased for but an instant and then read on. My hope turned to despair.
I must sadly declare that I feel we are very near the end of the Republic. The tide has turned from one of vision and incentive to one of entitlement. It began when the vote was given to all. It was then that the safeguard against those who have less having the capacity to vote themselves a raise from the treasury ended.
The fact that these have less people can flood the streets and demand the de facto confiscation of the remaining possessions of those they envy justifies my position. We are overwhelmed and nothing short of total destruction and rebuilding will ever change the situation. In spite of our sometimes heroic efforts last week to organize the little tea parties we could only muster a fraction of the number demonstrating in New York today.
This path to destruction, begun long ago and with one compromise built upon another, has led us to where we are today. Roosevelt, Johnson, Carter, Clinton...each left a radically changed country in his path. Laws and programs that came to be in an instant that "couldn't be undone"...something I have never understood...were left in their wake.
After each of them the Republicans came along and tried to patch things up within the confines of the rule-of-law. Don't get me wrong, Republicans have been some of the biggest scalliwags ever but, for the most part, they tried to return some order within what they saw as the will of at least part of the people who deserved their say. This is one set of actions that has led to the demise of the United States, compromise. Compromise with the fair minded belief that no good could come of repeated cycles of building and destruction. Compromise that came from the high minded but foolish belief that if one did the right thing the others would rise to the challenge of meeting it. The stupid belief that you could make good from bad.
One after another we allowed "interests" to strip away the things our nation was built upon until we now stand for nothing. It was not enough that we preserved the right for all to express themselves freely or that we respected all religions and non-religions, we also allowed our foundations to be destroyed by those who disagreed or were offended. We allowed our own freedoms of expression and belief to be destroyed by the very persons we were protecting.
To add to this we created an entitlement class who were taught that anybody who has more than you do got it in spite of you...at your expense. They came by their prosperity by deceit and crookedness.
Never mind that those who have more worked harder and took more risks. This ethos was not taught or celebrated. Sure there are exceptions to every rule but for the most part those who lived well did so by earning their place.
Add to this that we destroyed much of the foundation upon which good hard-working true middle class families could be built. Greed of business did this. Greed and globalization. I do wonder if it was inevitable though when the rest of the world could make what we made for less and they no longer needed our goods...we became non-competitive and no longer had the edge that supported our unique middle-class.
And so we find ourselves where we are today. A communist elected or selected president and a gaggle of mindless senators and congressmen who have not yet figured out that in the long run we are all screwed. "Statesmanship" and power for sale to the highest bidder and the bid is the vote. A time when becoming winner as a result of half the people means that the other half loses and loses big. The consequences do not matter so long as the power is retained by the few who hold it.
This may be over simplified to some. I hope someone will take the time, inclination and effort to successfully convince me there is a way out of this.
I have said my piece and await our fate. If a leader of Right emerges I will follow but I can't lead from my lowly place. I am too old and too tired.
Finished
I agree. It met its final death not very long ago.
I agree. It met its final death not very long ago.
Looking at the numbers at a demonstration doesn’t say much. Most of us are working.
-Teddy Roosevelt on the Fall of the Republic
I agree to some extent, but as I was reading the same article, I kept thinking that most of those people were probably paid protesters and ACORN. Don’t loose all hope yet. I keep telling myself that all is not lost, UNLESS this is God’s plan and we are in the end times. If that is the case, there is nothing we can do to change anything, it’s in His hands, and that is comforting to me.
I have not quit but I feel very alone, even in a crowd. We do not have much of an awakening.
Please keep working. I and others will have down and up days, this one is a downer.
If the time is not over it is short.
You are finished if you say so. None of us is dependent on what decisions are made in Washington DC. Each of us can and must take control of our own attitudes and actions on the local level. Viktor Frankl showed that even in an extermination camp, people could be captains of their own souls. We are hardly in that condition as yet.
Years ago we had a houseguest from Poland. This was before Gorbechev and the fall of the Soviet Union. His country was under the iron boot of the USSR. Janusz was in the country to find resources for his blackmarket business. He had his regular Soviet job and then he had a side business using materials cast off by factories. He took these materials to homeworkers who knitted socks for him, which he marketed. Tough? You bet. Maybe even dangerous. But the human spirit rebels against oppression if it remains healthy, and your own attitude determines its health. Buck up. Obama thinks the youth will support his socialization but we have a generation of extremely spoiled youth who are not into “sacrifice” for the motherland. As soon as the cell phones start disappearing and the electronics left off Santa’s deliveries, he will lose them. We just have to wait it out and do what we can, given our resources.
I used to think that way, but I'm not so certain anymore. The take-home lesson from the sub-prime crisis should be to warn people away form easy credit and profligate spending - when in reality it seems that most have come away with the notion that we need to make credit even easier and ramp up spending like never before. It seems that all too often crisis only serves to reinforce society's shibboleths.
>The laws were the same as they had been, but the people behind the laws had changed, and so the laws counted for nothing.
This is the reason I see all three branches of government as treasonous and needing some hanging:
-The USSC, for determining that no US citizen has “standing” to see that the Constitution is followed.
-That the USSC says that it is perfectly fine for the Government to take privately owned property from a person, and then give it to a private company for development.
(Were this you or I, they would surely call it theft, which is what it is.)
-That the Congress pushed through a thousand-plus page bill, WITHOUT giving even their members the chance to read it!
-That congressmen can take bribes, fail to pay (their own) taxes and abide by the laws they pass w/o fear of justice.
-That the people of Obama’s administration are frauds, tax-cheats, felons, and murderers, yet they DARE to assume any stance of “moral superiority”!
-That the president signed said bill into law, without even reading the thing.
No, it’s far past time that “We The People” stand up and demand Justice For All!
I’m afraid I’m not quite ready to give up quite yet. I wouldn’t expect a Senator to give anyone hope. The answer would be not in his own best interest. The answer lies in the people willing to fight back against the tide. I think that anyone in office is not likely to mention/support the civil disobedience that it’s going to take. As long as I have breath I will not despair. That’s the whole point to this vicious economic and social engineering onslaught - to wear us down and bring us to despair - the fold will be easier to deal with once they’ve given up and lost all hope.
Keep up the pressure with letters/calls/emails and hit the streets. Let them see how many of us have had enough and are willing to stand up for our freedom and liberty.
It’s always darkest before the dawn.
Sometimes it only takes a few years, as in the Great Depression. Other times, it takes many decades—for example, the period from the South-Sea/Mississippi/Tulip Bubble (1720ish) until the American Revolution (1776.) And then there are those times when centuries are required, such as the Middle Ages.
If it only takes 8 more years this time, we'll be far luckier than we deserve. Hopefully, it won't take more than a few decades...
On April 15 every working person in this country should take the day off to demonstrate at their state capitols or in a large city of their choice. Oh, how I wish this would happen. If we don’t send an extremely strong message very soon I’ll have to concur the country is lost, but I want one more try, please.
We all lose and we all lose BIG! The problem with liberals is they need to be protected from their own ignorance and their own bad ideology. For a long time conservatives have been holding their collective finger in the dike of liberal greed. Greed that would hurt us all, but would hurt the poorer among us more than any. We have been the bulwark holding back the forces that would destroy America
Those forces now seem to have gotten the upper hand. Obama is already a nightmare of epic purportion, and he hasn't even been in power 60 days yet.
Can we turn it back? I don't know, but like you I'm willing to try if only a true conservative leader comes along.
I agree that it looks mighty bleak, but I also know that this nation was formed under God’s hand, therefore it is our duty to fight for her and our children and grandchildren, until such time as HE says its over.
I feel ssomething in the air like I have never felt before, like when a storm is coming. It is so wierd. I freely admit that I am scarred. I am also angry, very angry, but thats not it. Its like when a bad storm is coming and it is totally silent outside....well not if you live in the city, but those of you who live in the country know what I am talking about. When if a pin were to drop it would sound like a kettle dropping. No birds or any other animals are making a sound, there is no wind, not even a breeze, everything is still and silent.
It is a feeling kind of like what that gives a person...it is forboding, it makes you anxious....
Take heart, so long as we are breathing there is always hope.
Over? No...USA Chapter II maybe...
And organizations like ACORN are getting something like $3.8 billion dollars handed to them by the stimulus bill.
Obama and other democrat traitors are using taxpayer money to fund organizations that corrupt the election process and effectively steal our votes by nullifying them with vote buying, ballot box stuffing, crooked counting, and other corupt practices.
“I have not quit but I feel very alone, even in a crowd. We do not have much of an awakening.”
You must be living in a commune smack in the middle of UC Berkeley.
And I apologize if this hurts your feelings but you sound like you’re deliberately trying to depress everyone else.
If you encounter anyone trying to do such a thing, take heart—it’s laughably futile.
Obama and other democrat traitors are using taxpayer money to fund organizations that corrupt the election process and effectively steal our votes by nullifying them with vote buying, ballot box stuffing, crooked counting, and other corupt practices.
Which could be a huge problem if not for the fact that Zer0 and his ideas are imploding in on him as we speak. Give it a just a bit more. The tide is turning.
All the cliche’s . . . where there is life, there is hope (ooops, bad term). We have nothing to fear but change (oops, bad term).
I’m sure there’s something that can be said . . . oh yeah.
Don’t Tread On Me!
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!
Buy a Gadsden and Culpeper Flag and give ‘em heck, er h3ll.
As long as we can find something to laugh at, even if it’s our own sorry arses, we will survive this.
And we WILL.
I wouldn’t worry too much about that gathering. I haven’t read the details yet, but I’m sure it was driven by the government employees unions—including PEF, my own. They are advertising on television and radio non-stop with their “tax the rich” message. “Make them pay their fair share” is the battle cry. PEF just sent its membership model letters containing the same message, with instructions to send to state legislators, et al. Here in NY it is a lot about socialism, but it’s more about greed—especially the greed of the unions.
There is hope, however. One of the die-hard socialists in my office approached me today and said, “You were right about Obama.” I had told him immediately after the election that Zero was a communist and would wreck the country. I was truly shocked today—the guy looked completely dismayed. If this fellow has had an epiphany, he is certainly not alone. In my office of about two hundred workers—mostly liberal—I see and hear a lot of buyer’s remorse.
Fwiw.
I know how you feel, I've been feeling the same thing. It's surreal, I feel like life is going on as usual, then the next minute I feel like my world is falling apart. The communist movement is on full throttle and I too am scared, and very angry. I'm working on storing supplies, planting a garden, etc. for survival planning, but not sure I want to survive the worst case scenario.
I read everything I can find about what is going on, and none of it is comforting. One thing I read a few days ago connected all the dots for me about who is pulling Zero's strings, who created and is controlling the financial meltdown, and it seems that they also control the elections.
I fell pretty much the same way. Click on my name.
If you place your hope in government or the emergence of a leader, then you will go down the false road of Obama supporters. Our leaders are politicians, and while some may deserve our vote, they do not deserve your hope.
Although I cannot predict the future, I feel that free men will eventually emerge to retake our country. Power, even when controlled by Liberals, is transitory. Our nation still has enough independently willed people that have distain for the addiction of government intervention.
We have our values and our principles that we pass down to a younger generation. We still struggle, if not for our family, but for our beliefs. Our country was founded on exactly that spirit. It is in our cultural DNA. We are not France.
Demographically, God fearing Americans have larger families; and I feel are stronger willed, and thus, more able to carry on our cultural legacy.
As long as we understand the trouble we face, and we certainly do, we know that we can soberly meet the challenges of today.
It’s not hope that you need. It’s perserverence. It’s knowledge. It’s initiative. It’s faith that you know the sun will rise in the morning and that you can handle any challenge in a given day. That is much different and more powerful than any hope and change.
Hello fellow Texas! Can you post a link to what you read that helped to connect the dots? I would love to read it.
In my opinion, we really haven’t been a constitutional Republic at all since about 1968. We’re an oligarchy with republican trappings.
you described exactly how I feel, something is happening. I don’t know what.
It's a long read, and a little confusing at times, but it does come together.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
There are lots of very beautiful islands scattered all across the Caribbean. Nice weather, peaceful, sunny most of the time.... may be time to just get out now. Panama is also very nice. A lot of people are going there. It’s a Constitutional Democracy, real estate is reasonable, good fishing, they grow coffee, tropical fruits, lots of construction going on. Nice place to retire or move if you are just over the rat race here and can’t take it any longer.
Good post.
Our voices are lost in a tide of sweeping intolerance on the part of the liberals in charge.
This last election was not about George W. Bush or John McCain.
Obama was running against Reagan Conservatism.
He fully intends to use this largely manufactured economic crisis, which was created by the Democrats in Congress and fueled during his Campaign to marginalize conservative thought and independent conservative voices. To him we are the enemy of the state.
He will attempt to destroy the conservative ideology because it is the antithesis of his Socialist Progressive Liberalism.
But you can take comfort in knowing this. Socialism in all its forms is Oppressive to the very people that it claims to help it is doomed to fail but there will be painful times ahead until a public boiling point is reached.
Then there will be a revolt. I see the revolution coming in a couple of scenarios:
1. Obama - Continues to move the country into a pacifist state. Returning our defenses to a pre-911 stage and we suffer a major terror attack
2. Obama’s stimulus plan and future wasteful spending plans do nothing to recover the economy and we sink deeper into a full blown depression.
3. Obama - Makes moves towards shutting down free and independent speech or closes off political debate like typical Socialists Hugo Chavez, etc.
Personally, I think they are testing the waters of number 3 right now but not being direct like the fairness doctrine would have been they are putting a new twist on it by using Rush Limbaugh as the face of Conservatism and then Marginalizing him as an extremist.
The Main Stream media is acting as a form of Socialist Pravda like the Communists used to do for government media control by filtering the news for the masses.
Why do I feel like a frog in warm water right now?
Sorry about the other night
Keep you chin up. Remember Churchill said something like ‘We will fight them on land - We will fight them on the seas - We will never give up - We will fight fight fight!’
Keep you chin up. Remember Churchill said something like ‘We will fight them on land - We will fight them on the seas - We will never give up - We will fight fight fight!’
Don’t ask, don’t tell...
How is that the lesson? Those who used easy credit and profligate spending are the beneficiaries of the bail out. And the creditors were forced to provide it. The lesson is that when wicked people control this nation following the rules of society makes you a loser.
This is exactly where we are today. Obama cobbled together a Halloween Coalition of 50% + 1. Now we understand that democracies are tyrannical. The rule of people (deoocracy) oppresses the minority (us). In a Republic we have the rule of Law, which protects everyone. Now with the Constitution assigned to being designated an historical document (this country has not ordered itself as Federalist for almost 100 years), the document (living document, they say) comes to mean anything they want it to mean. The 10th amendment, the 9th amendment seem to have no meaning. Enumerated powers has been thown overboard, and we are essentially being goverend by a tyrranical dictator who only circumscribes his pronouncements by his perceived political threats. He will go as far as we allow. I see no political way out of this situation. The damage he is doing may become too great to repair. The Balkanization of groups, the setting at nothing the concept of the melting pot to become Americans will probably never be reconstituted. Mr.Obama grows strong on dividing the country.
The loss of parental preceptorship of their children for the Love Of Liberty is 3 generations past. With people who love security and safety more than liberty, according to Franklin, deserve neither. I think he is right.
Now the question becomes when it will be recognized by a critical mass of people in America who deterine to recapture America. So, as the songwriter says, "America come home today, America you know the way, From Concord Bridge to Amazing Grace, America Come home today."
Sounds Like McLame
It is not over by a LOOOOOOONG shot.
“Why do I feel like a frog in warm water right now?”
Don’t worry—the heat isn’t even turned on yet.
Well bud, you’re just going to have to kill me then.
DO you know something that we don’t, or are you just an eternal optimist?
Those kinds of places are only free and peaceful because of the existence of the U.S. military.
Our military has yet to abandon us, and they won’t any time soon. They fight so we can live right here, in freedom. I’m not leaving.
...even when it seems impossible.
Not eternal. Things just aren’t nearly as bad as my worst case scenarios I’ve thought of.
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