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Toomey to challenge Specter again (The Hunt for Benedict Arlen!)
The Hill ^ | 03/05/09 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 03/05/2009 5:16:39 PM PST by GOPGuide

Former Rep. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) will challenge Sen. Arlen Specter in a primary for the second straight cycle, according to Pennsylvania GOP sources.

The Allentown Morning Call reported Thursday that two friends of Toomey’s have said the Club for Growth chief has decided to enter the race.

Toomey narrowly lost to Specter in a 2004 primary by less than 1 percent and recently said he was considering another run.

The paper quotes Richard Thulin, leader of the Lehigh Valley Republican Network, saying in an e-mail to supporters that "Pat's formal announcement will be forthcoming.

"Interesting news," he wrote. "Pat Toomey asked me to let you know that he has decided to challenge Arlen Specter."

Reached late Thursday, Thulin confirmed the details of the e-mail, as first reported by the Morning Call.

A Pennsylvania GOP source confirmed that he has talked to Toomey in recent days, and Toomey said he would run.

Specter has drawn jeers from the GOP for his vote in favor of the current stimulus package, in which he was joined by only two other GOP senators.

A spokeswoman for the Club for Growth could not immediately be reached for comment.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: arlen; everheardoftopics; huntforredspecter; pennarino; pennsylvania; senatorsphincter; snarlinarlen; specter; spectertruthfile; toomey
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1 posted on 03/05/2009 5:16:39 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Maybe Santorum can keep his mouth shut this time.


2 posted on 03/05/2009 5:17:53 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: GOPGuide

Bet he doesn’t loose this time.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 5:18:15 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: GOPGuide

Good news ...


4 posted on 03/05/2009 5:18:42 PM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: SMCC1

Santorum should get out there early and apologize for stabbing him in the back and tell everyone he was wrong about specter.


5 posted on 03/05/2009 5:23:09 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: Nuc1
Bet he doesn’t loose this time.

Arlen is on his way out, either way. His cancer will get him before long...probably before 'ought ten.

I wouldn't be surprised if Arlen pulls out anyway....to spend his last days with his family, don't you know.

6 posted on 03/05/2009 5:23:23 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: SMCC1
Maybe Santorum can keep his mouth shut this time.

I'm hoping that even if he did speak up in favor of Specter it may not help all that much. Last time it wasn't only Santorum but Bush who backed Specter as well as the party. Hopefully, this time the party will take not of Specter's unpopularity and back Toomey. I hope...

7 posted on 03/05/2009 5:24:37 PM PST by bcsco (Obama says "Buy", investors say "Bye")
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To: GOPGuide

The last time Spector had the backing of the White House administration. This time.... well, he’ll probably have the backing of the White House administration.


8 posted on 03/05/2009 5:24:57 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: GOPGuide

And until the election, this challenge can be used to beat him over the head and keep him voting our way.


9 posted on 03/05/2009 5:25:35 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: GOPGuide

Great news! He would have defeated Spectre had W not gone and campaigned for Spectre.


10 posted on 03/05/2009 5:26:27 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: Incorrigible

LOL- And so true.


11 posted on 03/05/2009 5:27:58 PM PST by TCats
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To: GOPGuide

Most of the voters of Pennsylvania are braindead. We couldn’t even defeat John Murtha, who has clearly trashed the military. If Toomey wins the primary, he loses to whichever member of the media the democrats decide to run.


12 posted on 03/05/2009 5:29:01 PM PST by wpa_mikeb
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To: GOPGuide

Spector will not hold his seat, but he needs to be defeated by Toomey. He and other like-minded RINOs need to understand that losing is a consequence of being too liberal.


13 posted on 03/05/2009 5:31:13 PM PST by vamoose
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To: SMCC1
Maybe Santorum can keep his mouth shut this time.

Ditto for Hugh Hewitt.

14 posted on 03/05/2009 5:37:48 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: GOPGuide
Does this guy have a prayer in the general if he somehow get past Specter in the primary? Although, I'm convinced Specter would pull a Lieberman if unseated in the primary.

What about Lynn Swann? Did he get crushed against Big Daddy Ed Rendell?

15 posted on 03/05/2009 5:38:07 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey

the answer is no. Pennsylvania has, unfortunately been invaded by liberals living in brick colonials surrounding Philadelphia. They run the state. Lynn Swann didn’t have a chance either, Ed Rendell and his Philadelphia machine crushed him. Murtha gets elected time after time, the city of Pittsburgh constantly elects democrats even though the city is almost broke. the democrats in this state are very well organized, the GOP in this state is as bad as the national party, if not worse.


16 posted on 03/05/2009 5:48:36 PM PST by wpa_mikeb
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To: Big_Monkey
Pat Toomey represented heavilly Democrat NE Pennsylvania in congress before he took on Specter in 2004. This is the same area of the state that produced the mime Bob Casey Jr.

He connects with blue collar people much better than Rick Santorum.

17 posted on 03/05/2009 5:55:38 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: GOPGuide
Former Rep. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) will challenge Sen. Arlen Specter in a primary for the second straight cycle, according to Pennsylvania GOP sources.

And this time Bush won't be around to help his amnesty-supporting friend out.

18 posted on 03/05/2009 5:55:58 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: wpa_mikeb
Pennsylvania has, unfortunately been invaded by liberals

Did they move in from NY and Massachusetts? Interesting the way the liberals flee from socialist tax and spend polices only to turn around and elect the same clowns they ran away from. They do it every time.

19 posted on 03/05/2009 5:59:50 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

NY and NJ. Western Pennsylvania’s population has decreased while the area surrounding Philly has increased. Western PA is far more conservative than the east, but the east controls the state. I really hate to admit it, and I hope Pat Toomey challenges Specter, but I really don’t see how he can win the general election unless the dems run someone bad. Oh, wait, they ran someone bad (Casey) and he still won.


20 posted on 03/05/2009 6:06:41 PM PST by wpa_mikeb
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To: GOPGuide

RINO hunting time!

Run Pat Run!


21 posted on 03/05/2009 6:10:15 PM PST by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: GOPGuide
Now if we can get Bush to come out of retirement and endorse Specter again that should help Toomey's prospects this time.
22 posted on 03/05/2009 6:17:27 PM PST by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system."--George "the Abandoner" Bush)
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To: republicanwizard
Hey Republicanwizard, where ya been? Looks like your buddy Arlen Specter has been in the news a lot lately. Remember six years ago where you defended the guy and insisted 2004 would be his last campaign? So much for that, eh?

Sooooooo... you still voting for liberal Arlen in the GOP primary because Bush tells you to?

23 posted on 03/05/2009 6:24:21 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: wpa_mikeb

Maybe we’ll get lucky and the dem turnout is low as it tends to be in off year elections and the repubs get motivated. I can’t believe we’ve actually got a strong chance to win one in NY so anything’s possible.


24 posted on 03/05/2009 6:24:53 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: GOPGuide

Hasn’t he learned? The GOP will really clobber him this time.


25 posted on 03/05/2009 6:47:35 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: SMCC1
Do you think Santorum understands he lost his senate seat because of his support for specter? I don't believe for a second that PA became more liberal. The conservatives stayed home because he backed an anti-life candidate.
26 posted on 03/05/2009 6:52:41 PM PST by lara
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To: icwhatudo

No, Santorum should just fade off into the Virginia sunset, never to be heard from again....


27 posted on 03/05/2009 7:02:24 PM PST by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: wpa_mikeb

For the millionth time Murtha was not re-elected by all the people of Pennsylvania, just those in his district. And Lynn Swann ran a terrible campaign. He was barely there as a candidate.

I don’t know about Toomey. If he wants to have a chance he’d better start early and get his name out there. I don’t know of many people where I live who would be very aware of him.


28 posted on 03/05/2009 7:15:45 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: SMCC1

Don’t bet on it. He’s a piece of work. He’ll do what he can to sabotage Toomey. He fancies himself as the savior, not Pat.

I really think the man is ill, as in sick in the head.


29 posted on 03/05/2009 7:44:32 PM PST by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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To: icwhatudo

Oh yeah, and liberals will recant, the sun will rise in the west, and St. Ricky will apologize. Yeah, riiiiiight.


30 posted on 03/05/2009 7:45:26 PM PST by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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To: vamoose

Where do we send the check?
And the check and the check and the check......did I say send the check?

Arlen seeeee yaaaaa!


31 posted on 03/05/2009 7:48:33 PM PST by Blacksheep (Will the last business owner to leave New Jersey please kick Corzine!)
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To: bcsco
Last time it wasn't only Santorum but Bush who backed Specter...

Yes, that was the first time I was really mad at Bush. Pretty mad at Santorum too. The Pope (John Paul II at the time) had just come out with a statement about pro-life politicians and voting. He expressly stated that when there is a clear choice between a pro-life and a pro-abortion politician, Catholics are obliged, ceteris paribus, to support the pro-lifer. Bush's abdication was terrible, but Santorum's was arguably worse.

32 posted on 03/05/2009 8:05:50 PM PST by ishmac ("There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories." Lady Thatcher)
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To: GOPGuide
I traveled with a pro-life group (CBR) that had the RCC truck campaign in 2004.

Basically, it was nothing more than a bunch of trucks with aborted babies on the side (fetuses).

Some people felt that pro-life action like that helped narrow that particular race...

33 posted on 03/05/2009 8:07:57 PM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: vamoose

Where do we send the check?
And the check and the check and the check......did I say send the check?

Arlen seeeee yaaaaa!


34 posted on 03/05/2009 8:16:14 PM PST by Blacksheep (Will the last business owner to leave New Jersey please kick Corzine!)
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To: Nuc1

Hope not.


35 posted on 03/05/2009 9:04:25 PM PST by dr_who
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To: GOPGuide

Vote for Toomey.


36 posted on 03/05/2009 10:27:34 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: GOPGuide

The only correct thought that Spector ever had was the Single Bullet Theory.


37 posted on 03/05/2009 11:37:50 PM PST by Lou Budvis (0bama Lied and the Market Died)
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To: GOPGuide

Toomey’s been palling around with Mitt Romney. I have no reason to trust him.


38 posted on 03/05/2009 11:40:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance ( TR: "Walk softly and carry a big stick." BHO: "Mince softly and carry a spaghetti noodle.")
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To: EternalVigilance
Toomey’s been palling around with Mitt Romney. I have no reason to trust him.

I guess that's probably better than palling around with McCain. In any event he'll be a huge improvement over Arlen.

39 posted on 03/06/2009 6:37:48 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: GOPGuide

It’s time for Arlen to GO! Let’s go Pat!


40 posted on 03/06/2009 6:39:42 AM PST by Antoninus (Every time Obama speaks, I buy more silver.)
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To: ReneeLynn

John Murtha’s had two opponents, both excellent conservatives. Both handily defeated by John Murtha, whose name appears on just about everything in his district and whose family benefits from all the pork in his district. None of that counted when it came to the election.

My main point remains the same. Sadly, Pennsylvania voters have pretty much given up on the GOP, with good reason. In the meantime, the dems have become stronger.

Toomey will probably easily defeat Specter in a primary. The general election remains a whole different ballgame. IF he’s still as popular among suburban Philadelphians as some suggest, he has a fighting chance, unless the dems put up a media darling to oppose him.


41 posted on 03/06/2009 7:02:25 AM PST by wpa_mikeb
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To: GOPGuide

Where do I donate?


42 posted on 03/06/2009 7:54:47 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Nuc1

I love Pat but if you think he will win the seat against all those Pa. Dems like the Murtha crowd, you are not politically smart. Pubs are through in Pa. since they could not beat a lackluster Bob Casey. Perhaps Lynn Swann would have a better chance. Arlen goes anyhow because the BASE in Pa. in still a bit more conserv than liberal but in the general election, same old same old.


43 posted on 03/06/2009 8:13:28 AM PST by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: GOPGuide

Where do we send the $$$$


44 posted on 03/06/2009 11:07:06 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: Antoninus; pissant; WOSG; AUH2O Conservative

ping


45 posted on 03/06/2009 11:14:56 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: wpa_mikeb
Oh, wait, they ran someone bad (Casey) and he still won.

They voted for the name, not the man. A lot of people really loved his father (who was decent man for a Democrat).

46 posted on 03/06/2009 11:37:35 AM PST by Ditto
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To: phillyfanatic
I love Pat but if you think he will win the seat against all those Pa. Dems like the Murtha crowd, you are not politically smart.

I am not politically smart.

47 posted on 03/06/2009 5:21:21 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Nuc1

But you have a good sense of humor and humility. No liberal would ever admit what you said!!!!!!


48 posted on 03/07/2009 11:44:36 AM PST by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: phillyfanatic
Thanks Phillyfanatic! Are you a Phillies of Eagle Fanatic?

I am a pin stripe follower. Go Yanks! ;D)

49 posted on 03/07/2009 6:22:52 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: phillyfanatic
A lackluster Casey may have won, but the outside money to defeat Santorum was huge. Would Toomey draw the same attacks, if he defeated Specter? Or would we have 2 non-incumbents, both with significant resources? The Santorum opponents from outside the state targeted his Pittsburgh constituency, with attacks on his residence, his children, his living arrangements, and what they considered his hypocrisy. There were a lot of those ads, running constantly on the radio and tv.

Would Toomey merit that kind of expenditure? Or will these challenging economic times result in less outside money coming in and interfering with the natural inclinations of PA voters? How much does voter fraud in the big cities cost, anyway?

50 posted on 03/07/2009 8:31:29 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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