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Beware the new axis of evangelicals and Islamists
The Spectator ^ | March 4, 2009 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 03/05/2009 3:33:44 PM PST by Parmenio

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Even some Christians in the UK are drinking the koolaid. There are some comments worth reading at the link to the article.

Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel? Outside of the mainline legacy denominations I mean. I haven't heard of any.

1 posted on 03/05/2009 3:33:45 PM PST by Parmenio
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To: Parmenio

Please don’t refer to pro-Islam religionists as Evangelical Christians.

Biblical Christians support Israel.


2 posted on 03/05/2009 3:36:48 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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I am watching very carefully for some kind of christo/mohammadan merger. All that is standing in the way is Christian insistence on the divinity of Christ.

I was in the car last night and National People’s Radio devoted a whole hour to debunking the Jesus “myth”.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 3:36:54 PM PST by DManA
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anti-Israel Christians

sounds like leftist so-called christians like the ucc and the episcopalians


4 posted on 03/05/2009 3:37:07 PM PST by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Parmenio

Many anti-freedom, anti-truth, anti-individual, anti-life collectives and individuals will join forces.

WORDS & DEEDS BUMP!


5 posted on 03/05/2009 3:37:18 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Parmenio
No real Christians that I know of in the US are anti-Israel.

6 posted on 03/05/2009 3:37:55 PM PST by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: TFMcGuire

I didn’t refer to them that way. The author of the article did.


7 posted on 03/05/2009 3:38:26 PM PST by Parmenio
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To: Parmenio

How can you be a Christian and not support Israel?


8 posted on 03/05/2009 3:38:37 PM PST by svcw
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No REAL Christian is anti-Israel. Just like no REAL Christian would be anti-(insert Islamic Country here).

Why? Because Christianity is not anti countries or ethnic groups.
Christians, that have a brain, WILL respectfully tell people that hold beliefs opposite to their own why they think they are wrong.

9 posted on 03/05/2009 3:39:15 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: svcw
Israel - the dependents of Jacob?
or
Israel - the Middle Eastern state with a secular government?

How can you be a Christian and not support Israel?

10 posted on 03/05/2009 3:46:50 PM PST by DManA
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To: Parmenio
Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel?

Outside of the drug-induced hallucinations of radical leftists, no.

11 posted on 03/05/2009 3:47:16 PM PST by MeganC (Palin-Limbaugh 2012)
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To: Parmenio

No worries!

I can see yer white hat.

I’m after the statements of the author of the article. Any damage to you was only collateral and not intended:).


12 posted on 03/05/2009 3:49:48 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: Parmenio

“Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel?”

If they were, I would not consider them to be evangelicals. Or Christians.

“15 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21”Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”—Matthew 7


13 posted on 03/05/2009 3:49:54 PM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Parmenio
Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel? Outside of the mainline legacy denominations I mean. I haven't heard of any.

This shows again why the term "Evangelical" is so broad as to be essentially meaningless. When whackjob liberal Presbyterians and Anglicans can be called "Evangelicals", the term has run its course and needs to be put to bed.

IIRC, there is some "latent" anti-Israelism/anti-Zionism in some quarters even of conservative American Christianity, mostly groups holding to amillenial eschatology and related heresies who believe (in some form or fashion) that "the Church" IS Israel, which would obviously make Israel NOT Israel....if that made sense.

14 posted on 03/05/2009 3:52:40 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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Are any US evangelicals coming out against Israel?

Simply, no. At least not any more so than you could find people who practice satanism or other scatterred loonie nut-jobs of no social or numerical significance. The author of the piece referring to some so-called "profound split" is ridiculous. I suspect there may be some agenda here in trying to drive a deeper wedge between Jews and evangelical Christians.

15 posted on 03/05/2009 3:53:39 PM PST by San Jacinto (gorebull warming -- the Socialists' Shortcut.)
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To: DManA

Did you mean “descendants”?


16 posted on 03/05/2009 3:56:19 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: Parmenio

Christians who hate Jews are the same type that love abortion and homosexuality—Either seriously misguided or false, like Obama’s spiritual leader Rev. Wright. I certainly wouldn’t call Jew-hating so-called Christians “evangelical.”


17 posted on 03/05/2009 3:56:45 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: TFMcGuire
Biblical Christians support Israel.

Shalom, and Amen.

18 posted on 03/05/2009 4:05:24 PM PST by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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***Please don’t refer to pro-Islam religionists as Evangelical Christians.

Biblical Christians support Israel***

PING and re PING

Only massively idiotic, Biblically illiterate libs think that you can be anti-Israel AND Evangelical.

(The same brain-frieded who are always quoting the book of Revelation”S”).


19 posted on 03/05/2009 4:10:07 PM PST by Mrs.Z
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Shalom, and Amen.

Psalm 137
1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.
4 How shall we sing the LORD's song in a strange land?
5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

20 posted on 03/05/2009 4:13:38 PM PST by Theophilus (The people who were going to buy your home got aborted 30 years ago.)
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