Posted on 03/04/2009 10:42:29 PM PST by Chet 99
President Obama says he wants to be president of all the people. But some groups are urging him to make an exception for the Boy Scouts of America.
Critics of the Scouts who are outraged that the group is allowed to exclude gays and atheists while receiving federal funding are urging Obama to reject the group's honorary presidency, a designation bestowed on every U.S. president since William Howard Taft in 1910.
"I'm hoping and praying he turns down the honorary presidency," said Howard Menzer, president of Scouting for All, which advocates for inclusion of gays into the Boy Scouts.
"No way should he be involved with a discriminatory group. That would be the best thing that could happen if he said, 'You discriminate too much for me. I can't be your honorary president.' I think that might begin to change a few things."
Obama was meeting with a delegation of the Boy Scouts in the Oval Office on Tuesday afternoon, at which time he was to accept the group's 2008 Report to the Nation.
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I urge the Boy Scouts to withdraw the offer.
I 2nd it.
While the Gay Scouts pack each others fudge to sell to America.
As a former scout,it bothers me when special interest groups try to change scouting to suit their needs.I wonder why they don’t go after the DAR or The NAACP or other exclusive organizations.
Screed the beeoutch. My shoes be akin...
Rank should not rate an automatic honor.
There are few organizations finer than the Boy Scouts. And when a nation stoops to the place where special interest groups actually have a chance to cause a president to forgo an honorary position, then that nation is almost on it’s last legs.
I fear for this nation today. If you would have told me twenty years ago, when Reagan was leaving office, that we would be where we are now, I would have told you it wasn’t possible.
May God have mercy on our nation. The Democrats sure won’t.
I'm sure he'd like to do this, but he also doesn't want to be a political turd circling the drain.
I understand your point, but I hope that they don't. Let Obama have to make an uncomfortable political decision for the first time in almost 5 weeks - finally.
He takes, he pisses off his base. He rejects it, it's a 4 or 5 day news story. BARACK OBAMA HATES THE BOY SCOUTS - it's political gold for the GOP. Scouting still popular in those important Midwest swing states.
That is some fudge I won’t buy.....
Anyone want to guess who, or what, he’s praying *to*?
i wonder if the scouts have a vested interest in whether or not 0bama is a natural born US citizen
Activists? Why can’t they simply say queers?
The Boy Scouts receive federal funding?
i remember the time when the boy scouts were booed by the DNC crowd at one of their past conventions when they stepped onto the stage with the national colors for either the pledge of allegiance or the national anthem....
> Rank should not rate an automatic honor.
Amen.
“There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”
(Lord Acton in his letter to Bishop Creighton, 1887)
> Anyone want to guess who, or what, he’s praying *to*?
Molech, in the form of Allah. We know that based upon his position on child abortions. Molech needs a steady flow of sacrifices.
> He takes, he pisses off his base.
Or he undermines the Boy Scouts from within. I wouldn’t trust him near any Boy Scouts: he’s skilled with words and sly as a snake.
And anyrate, the very LAST thing we’d want is for Obama to be successful in persuading Boy Scouts to join his Civilian Security Service. If they did they would be a real force to be reckoned with.
I’d prefer to see Obama recruit all the crack-heads and gang-bangers he can find. We need the Boy Scouts on our side.
We’re ruled by a party that looks at Boy Scouts as terrorists and looks at terrorists as boy scouts.
I had a cousin who was a homosexual and a boy scout. The think is nobody knew he was a homo, because he didn’t tell anybody he was a homo until he was an adult. It’s like the St. Pat’s Day parade group banning homosexuals. They don’t ban homos, anyone who’s Irish can march in the parade. They simply ban groups who announce they’re homos thereby politizing the parade. The whole argument is a sham.
Gays and Atheists are welcome to join. They just aren't permitted to prey upon our children, corrupt our culture and piss all over our traditions.
The kids would kick their @sses all over the place if they tried.
I fear for this nation too. We are now so fractured and I don’t want to unite with these hateful people. They are toxic.
Barney Frank excitedly asks to accept the honor in Obama’s place. “Pleath, oh pleath, Sir?”
They refused him the honor.
Uh... no, they are not. The Scout Oath explicitly contains a promise to do duty to God. The Scout Law includes the attribute "reverent." Moral straightness, or its pursuit, is a qualification for membership.
All of these foundational requirements exclude homosexuals and atheists - which is a good thing.
Yes, I now remember that, too. I think it spoke volumes about the despicable mindset of the DNC. Substitute a law enforcement group, military, or anyone of traditional authority for the Scouts, and you have the same reaction. These Dems are scum-of-the-earth. And that gives scum a bad name.
The receive federal support, like being allowed to hold their annual jamboree on a military reservation. I don't think they receive any actual funding.
If they do join then they're expelled if discovered. The Scouts fought a long court battle to guarantee their right to limit their membership.
Yes he was. There were those who thought he should be stripped of the title. And there were those who thought he should decline the title. But he was the head.
So...if Hillary Clinton had won the presidency then who would be the honorary head of the Boy Scouts?
Why would anybody except a woman who meets the criteria want to be in the DAR?
I'm reminded of the organization of German ancestors that was sued by some Blacks who wanted to become members in order to use the swimming pool! A judge actually ruled that they had to accept Black members who obviously weren't German.
I hope Obama stays away from the Boy Scouts---because I think highly of the BS.
I think most Boy Scouts and their leaders are too.
I heard that some scouts refused awards with Bill Clinton's signature on it. They could do the same for Obama.
Naming the president as honorary head of Scouting is not required by the Boy Scout bylaws. It is a conscious decision on the part of Scout leadership. If individual Scouts disagree with the leadership's actions then maybe the should leave Scouting altogether?
Those practicing the homosexual way of life (homosexual behavior is a choice, not a state of being) were his biggest boosters to political office in Illinois and then for the presidency. He promised this group the sky and they worked hard in every way to give him exposure at public and newsworthy events and to be key note speaker in for large audiences of national organizations and to get him to be a speaker at the Democratic Convention and later to get him elected President. Do the Boy Scouts not know that?
Didn’t the Boy Scouts withdraw their award from Clinton after the Monika affair? Can’t remember the details now, but they thought he was not a good role model for the boys.
You really do have to ask yourself how low this nation could go before the left would come around to understanding that communism isn’t the answer.
The “It wasn’t given a proper chance yet” line is such an ignorant premise.
It is not even the communism, it is the whole intolerance thing. No matter what the subject, if you disagree with them they attack, it is so tiring. They behave like snotty little children.
My uncle became a huge lib/Obama supporter. My brother re-enlisted after 9/11 and went to Afghanistan. After coming home for a while, he decided to go to work with Blackwater. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about them, but when my brother came home this last time, he refused to see him. Please, that is his nephew, he is in Iraq, and you cannot put aside your politics to say hey, to someone you’ve known since birth? He has become unbearable to be around, he picks fights with everyone.
Thank you for your insight. We have a very close open family. My brother just shrugs him off, in fact he is due home on a break next week. When I visited my parents over the summer I knew he was crazy so I avoided all talk of politics with him. By the end of the weekend we went head to head. I was able to counter him without hysteria on every point, everyone else stood back and watched and he finally stormed out. After he left, they were all, dang, you had facts, numbers and statistics, nobody has ever been able to shut him up. I replied, if y’all want to learn the truth read Free Republic. My brother is addicted to it.
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