Posted on 02/22/2009 12:25:31 PM PST by Cyropaedia
"Another local resident asked Shelby if there was any truth to a rumor that appeared during the presidential campaign concerning Obama’s U.S. citizenship, or lack thereof.
“Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said. “You have to be born in America to be president.”
(Excerpt) Read more at cullmantimes.com ...
Ping.
Yeah, but where was all of this after he had secured the nomination?
That was the time to hit the SOB.
Better late than never...
Ace in the hole?
I wonder if the Democrats will respond with a personal attack on Senator Shelby, or will put this whole thing to rest by producing incontrovertible documentation that Obama meets the Natural Born Citizen requirement of the Constitution?
Obama’s media backing is massive. It’s not a mystery why few people know this. Has anyone seen this on any main stream media outlet- ever? Even Foxnews has nothing to say.
He can be removed from office if he was not born here.
Agreed
However, the way to KEEP this alive?
Get State Election officials to require a certified copy of the long form birth certificate, or the “vault copy” prior to any name being placed on the Presidential ballot.
Get legislatures to pass laws stating that no electoral college votes, from that state, will be given to any candidate who has not proven “natural born citizen” status.
Even if we do not force Obama out of office early (and we probably won’t) we will weaken Obama and distract him.
Also, when he runs for reelection, we might deny him a place on the ballot, in a few states.
Maybe it’s finally dawning on them that there are huge loopholes within the system; both state and federal.
Well, Shelby should then have raised an objection in the Senate on January 8th. He’s just pandering to conspiracy theorists here.
*SNICKER*
Oh, really? How did they get their hands on it? And why is not in the public domain? I want to see it.
The interesting thing about that newspaper article is:
His parents never lived at the address given in the article.....checked Hawaii records.....and it is true.....
Some are afraid he’ll send his brown shirts around for a visit like all good dik-tators do. The rest are just on the bandwagon.
Also, Obama has NOT produced a Certified Copy of his original Vault Copy Birth Cetificate, at any time.
A Certificate of Live Birth is NOT the same as an original Vault Copy Birth Certificate.
A Certificate of Live Birth can be issued for those born at sea, on airplanes, or in a foreign country.
By the way, I am willing to believe that Obama might have been born in Hawaii. However, Obama is hiding something.
Obama’s own legal briefs openly state that production of the “Vault Copy” birth certificate, as well as other discovery items requested, would be an “embarrassment” to Obama.
I am thinking that paternity might be the problem, not geography.
In any event, Obama is a fraud who rose to power on publicity of Oprah and his phoney books.
We must poke as many holes in the “Obama story” as we can.
Shelby wimped out and played the status quo on this. He went on to say that the Hawaii state government verified the birth certificate stated Hawaii was the place of birth. Yet they only said it was a certificate of birth back to step one. So Shelby just deflected the question and is not challenging it or so it sounds to me.
Kenyan Prince .........................Where were you born and can you prove it?
Yeesh, lead, follow, or get out of the way
Someone needs to write an email to Patrick McCreless that wrote this piece and challenge what he is advancing here:
“According to the Associated Press, state officials in Hawaii checked health department records during the campaign and determined there was no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.
The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document. In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama’s birth, including his parents’ address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.”
Hawaii NEVER said Obama was born there....how DARE these media jerks play so fast and loose with the truth...this guy goes so far as to editorialize they said there is NO DOUBT Obama was born there. How irresponsible.
What Hawaii actually said:
>>On October 31, 2008, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, released a statement verifying that Barack Obama’s birth certificate was on file in their records. However, despite what you might have heard, she did not verify that he was born in Hawaii. And, she did not verify that the certificate on file in Hawaii matches the “COLB” pictured on Obama’s site and at FactCheck. <<
Additionally the Factcheck image—including the so-called seal is FORGED using 2007 graphic elements.
My Mac won’t bring up the McCreless’ email addy, someone please challenge this dishonesty.
Some reference:
From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage:
A. “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country” (applies to adopted children).
B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.
C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.
D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17.
E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.
YES...that’s what I thought...and I agree with you...paternity MIGHT be the issue, however, spending what people have said has been spent (100’s of thousands of dollars) to prevent revelation of paternity seems odd. Paternity these days doesn’t seem THAT big a deal....and could be “storied”...i.e. he could have a story around it that people believe.
Who you be callin’ a acehole? Shelby or Obummer?
>>>You have to be born in America to be president.
I wonder if he voted for McCain who was porn on Panamanian soil?
>>>You have to be born in America to be president.
I wonder if he voted for McCain who was born on Panamanian soil?
YEAH, I know....that’s why I posted that part...
Forget about where he was born for just a minute.
What about forging a federal document?
The Tokyo Rose brigades never tire.
I also have no doubt that Freepers would invalidate it within 12 hours of its appearance online.
Lol...tain’t Shelby (can I say that here?)
Seems to me that was vetted through Congress, can't say the same for your guy
By whom? Not sure that can be removed except through impeachment and conviction in the Senate and the dems won't allow that.
Good! I did not know if you’d seen it....thanks!
Shelby? NO! Really? ‘Percy Bysse’ Shelby?
The original birth certificat is being translated from Swahili into English.
Sure they would. Not everyone wants the world to know that they have “Satan” as a father.
The way I was told is that McCain was born in Panama but not on Panamanion soil as a US naval base is considered to be US soil.
Not if his father was Franklin Marshall Davis, communist and pedophile.
WooooooooooHooooooooooooooooo.
The Kenya connection probably wasn’t going to be brought up if BHusseinObama had been a good fiscal manager. But NOW, since he’s tripled the Deficit in just 3 weeks, it may get brought up to remove him from office. It is a ‘final’ resource for Congress if the legislators come to the conclusion that he’s incapable of leading the Country.
Stay tuned, this isn’t over yet.
Here’s what I just sent the “intrepid” reporter:
Dear Patrick M.:
You need be careful with this if you are interested in maintaining your journalistic integrity.
The Hawaiian officials never said that Mr. Obama was born in their State. It never happened! They said he had a valid birth certificate. If you would spend some time researching the matter you would discover - as so many others have - that the two conditions can be mutually exclusive. Fact Check has completely ignored the same issues you have in your piece. HI has given out certificates of live birth in the past that they will not even accept as proof under all circumstances. And they have a good reasons for doing so - perhaps you should find out what they are.
Funny now none of you clever reporters have ever come up with his real long form BC, or can prove what hospital he was was born in, or can seem to get your hands on any of his college records!
Articles with flimsy research is one of the reasons for decline of print media. If we have to do our own research to get to the truth why
Another local resident asked Shelby if there was any truth to a rumor that appeared during the presidential campaign concerning Obama’s U.S. citizenship, or lack thereof.
“Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said. “You have to be born in America to be president.”
According to the Associated Press, state officials in Hawaii checked health department records during the campaign and determined there was no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.
The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document. In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama’s birth, including his parents’ address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.
If he's not eligible to hold he office, there isn't any removing to be done. He was never legally President. Anything he has signed is invalid. The longer this charade continues, the deeper the mire is going to get.
good job
The democrat controlled house would not impeach nor would the Senate convict if he were impeached. He will leave the White House only if mass civil disobedience occur, as did the peaceful disobedience of the civil rights movement in the sixties. The other way he will leave is if the military leadership is convenienced that he is not a legitimate president. They could refuse his orders. In fact they are sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States. If it is determined that he is not eligible to be President it is their duty not to support him nor obey his orders. If this occurred massive civil disobedience would follow. Some of it would not be peaceful.
Our great nation is poised on a cusp.
This should have been addressed a long time ago. It is clear to many that Obama does not meet the minimum Constitutional requirements to serve as President. But it is too late now. If it were to be proved that he was born in Kenya, I believe the only recourse would be impeachment and removal from office. Not likely with a Democrat Congress.
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