Posted on 02/21/2009 6:14:25 PM PST by IsraelBeach
Germany To Iran: Stop Lying About Holocaust, It's Fact
By Joel Leyden
Israel News Agency
Jerusalem --- February 21, 2009...... It's my country, my history and my nation's past collective crime. These were the brave words behind former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder statement in Iran today when he declared that the "Holocaust is a historical fact".
Schroeder was in Iran speaking to the Iran Chamber of Industry and Commerce in Teheran. Schroeder added that it did not make sense to deny "this unparalleled crime for which Adolf Hitler is responsible."
The former Germany leader met with Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today against a wide protest by German Jewish leaders. Schroeder was on an unofficial tour of Iran to inaugurate a neuroscience center co-founded by a Germany - based Iran specialist.
German politicians and Jewish community leaders spoke out against Schroeder for his meeting with Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Schroeder, who is a senior manager at the Russia energy giant Gazprom, arrived in Tehran on Thursday.
By meeting with Ahmadinejad, "Schroeder has harmed the image of the German government and of the whole of Germany," said Stephan Kramer, secretary general of the Central Council of Jews in Germany.
But many see Schroeder's visit as an effective protest against Iran's campaign to turn the Holocaust into a myth. His visit was also seen as a bridging attempt between the new US administration and Iran's Islamic leadership. The former chancellor called for opening direct talks between Iran and the US.
In 2005, "Ahmadinejad stated: "They (the Jews) have created a myth (Holocaust) today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets."
On live TV, he called for Europe or North America - even Alaska - to host a Jewish state, not the Middle East.
Israel swiftly denounced the president's comments.
"We hope these extremist comments will make the international community open its eyes and abandon any illusions about this regime," former Israel foreign ministry spokesman Mark Regev told AFP news agency.
Ahmadinejad's declaration echoed comments he made one week earlier, in which he said territory should be "provided" in Germany or Austria to establish Israel "if European countries claim that they have killed Jews in World War II".
Ahmadinejad who in the same breath denied that the Holocaust ever took place declared that Israel should be "wiped off the map".
Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was asked by MSNBC anchor Brian Williams why he described the Holocaust as a myth. Ahmadinejad responded that he was an academic and had great knowledge. Ahmadinejad questioned Williams as to why people only talk about the 6 million Jews when over 50 million died in the second world war. Williams responded without hesitation."Because of the difference that human kind differentiates between warfare and genocide."
Ahmadinejad had no response to this answer as then spinned into "if" the Holocaust did occur then why did the Palestinian people have to suffer. Ahmadinejad made no mention of Hamas or Islamic Jihad. Ahmadinejad made no mention that as modern Israel was created in 1948, the Palestinians were offered a nation of their own but refused it to join the invading Arab armies to destroy the new born Jewish state with the promises of being given more land.
The Iran government has sponsored many Holocaust denying conferences and even a Holocaust cartoon contest whose aim was to discredit the Holocaust.
Denial of the Holocaust has become a serious crime in several Western nations including Germany, England and the US. The Pope recently told Jewish leaders from the US that it is unacceptable to deny or minimize the Holocaust.
Essential elements in discrediting the Holocaust are the rejection of that the Nazi government had a policy of deliberately targeting Jews and people of Jewish ancestry for extermination as a people; that between five and seven million Jews were systematically murdered by the Nazis and their allies; and that genocide was carried out at extermination camps using tools of mass murder, such as gas chambers.
Holocaust deniers do not accept the term "denial" as an appropriate description of their point of view, and use the term Holocaust revisionism instead.
Holocaust denial claims imply, or openly state, that the Holocaust is a hoax arising out of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples.
The Holocaust (also called Shoah in Hebrew) refers to the period from January 30, 1933, when Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany, to May 8, 1945 (VE Day), when the war in Europe ended. During this time, Jews in Europe were subjected to progressively harsh persecution that ultimately led to the murder of 6,000,000 Jews (1.5 million of these being children) and the destruction of 5,000 Jewish communities. These deaths represented two-thirds of European Jewry and one-third of world Jewry. The Jews who died were not casualties of the fighting that ravaged Europe during World War II. Rather, they were the victims of Germany's deliberate and systematic attempt to annihilate the entire Jewish population of Europe, a plan Hitler called the “Final Solution” (Endlosung).
For more information about the Holocaust, please enter the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Web site.
he called for Europe or North America - even Alaska - to host a Jewish state, not the Middle East.
Really we should take him up on it, find some deserted desolate area and in twenty years it would be our most prosperous state.
Give a mullah a mullet and you feed him for a day, give him a mallet and he’ll try to hit some poor jew over the head.
Wow he sure has changed,he was a big as***le since the 80’s in German politics.
Getting closer to his maker must be trying to make amends.
There is not (yet, technically) any law in the U.S. against stating (or denying) any position, philosophy, religion, idea, myth, etc.
On a related point, it is not only accepted - In Europe, Hollywood, and U.S. academia - to deny the massive genocide and atrocities committed by the Soviet Union and other communist regimes; it is even fashionable in such circles to lionize the perpetrators of such masscres (Che, etc.)
I think we should make a Jewish State in America the day after every Muzzie goes back to the Mideast hell-hole from whence they sprang.
i say cut a large portion of mexico off next to our border and give them that. two problems one solution.
I just assisted the widow of my now deceased WW2 friend as she donated to a museum the personal Luger, a Munich party HQ nazi banner, and sword of the camp commandant at Dachau. Also included were his photos from inside the camp at the time of liberation. These went to a state military museum. My friend was a hero for freedom, regularly being tasked to go behind the nazi lines and snatch officers or vips. He took the denials of the Holocaust personally. He could have used his talents with the garot and knife, as well as his 1903 Springfield sniper abilities on such repugnant and naive individuals. He was mortal, but he was all American and tough as a backwoods Depression kid could be. To your memory Roy— from a most grateful but ignorant nation.
Now can we turn our attention to the 9-11 Truthers?
I had one tell me that airplane parts weren’t found in the Pentagon... he was serious... I sat there in stunned silence, which is good, because when I came to my senses I wanted to punch his lights out.
You see, my cousin’s office was just above the Marine Corps helipad....
i LIKE YOUR IDEA...however, there is the religious aspect to the holyland for Jews.
Now, ironically, McCain’s joke of singing “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran’ is eerily on target.
Denial of the Holocaust has become a serious crime in several Western nations including Germany, England and the US.
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This is not not true. In the US, the official story is that only the Jews were subject to genocide. The 9 million Slavs are not considered.
What’s more, why do we have a museum to an European event in DC? The ‘holocaust’ - as assumed by our betters - has nothing to do with America. Where does our obsession with European history come from, such that it is taught ad naseum - and falsely - in our schools?
Facts are facts: more Christians than Jews were killed by the Pagan Nazis as ‘untermenschen’. Anything other is denial.
I deny the holocaust happened. So what?
Come arrest me. Bring in your swat crybabies.
Of course, it did happen, and lots of bad stuff has happened to lots of people in human (inhuman) history.
However, I am pretty sure it’s not a crime in the USA to say it did not happen.
Now, it would be really stupid to believe and to deny, if one has any regard for absolute facts (it’s a shame one needs to qualify the word “facts”) whatsoever, that the systematic extermination of Jews, gypsies, gays and others did not happen. That would be stupid.
However, if stupidity were a felony, and felons could not vote, we would not have a racist socialist president, and I would not have lost many thousands in the market just over the last month as part of zer0’s redistribution plan.
Screw zer0’s socialism and his bro Che to the wall.
Here’s an idea. Firebomb Iran back (ok, not back) into the Stone Age.
Then deny it happened. Even Steven. Make sure to hit their nuke facilities and missile sites.
So build them a museum as well. What is your motivation in knocking the other museum if not anti-semitism?
So Achmed, let’s say that I agree with you about the holocaust! And where are we going to put all those Jews??
Maybe if we take over your country,
once the remaining half life of the bombs make it habitable,
we can allow the Isrealis to live in peace in your country!!
Not at all; it is that Holocaust denial is very real in our Official Version of History. In the US, we deny that the German genocide included the Jews but they were a minority in a very large crime.
So build them a museum as well
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Besides the Holocaust Denial in our official history, why are we building a museum to a European event? What is the connection to the United States, especially since the official version of the Nazi genocide explictly minimizes the 9 million Slav untermenschen who were exterminated for their race.
The motivation is not anti-semitism to question if the offical verion is a half truth. Rather, it’s to ask if there is an anti-Christian or anti-Slav bias at work that wold underplay the majority. Another motivation is to question how this EUROPEAN event became such an important part of AMERICAN education. Don’t we have American topics to deal with, rather than a half told history?
This is not not true. In the US, the official story is that only the Jews were subject to genocide. The 9 million Slavs are not considered.
That's funny, because I learned about the targetting of non-Jews at Jewish Sunday School, 8th grade European history, freshman World History, and AP European History.
What’s more, why do we have a museum to an European event in DC? The ‘holocaust’ - as assumed by our betters - has nothing to do with America. Where does our obsession with European history come from, such that it is taught ad naseum - and falsely - in our schools?
Leftists who wish to falsely use it to attack nationalism and Western Civilization.
Facts are facts: more Christians than Jews were killed by the Pagan Nazis as ‘untermenschen’. Anything other is denial.
And if these Christians were to get involved, there would be more exihibts on them. So far only Jews seem intersted and contribute. Stop practicing grievance politics, and start being an adult. I am a son and quadruple grandchild of Holocaust survivors, but I don't wallow in grievance. But right now, I do pity you.
We have an official version and it revolves around only the ‘unique’ experience of the Jews. How can an experience of being part of a larger genocide be ‘unique’ (that’s how it’s called in cirriculum around the USA). We expend federal money on a museum to Eureopean history. What explains those two anamolies?
Why is that? You think it’s not anomolous that we have an official history version that ignores 9 million innocent souls? Or that we have a museum to European history in our American capital?
The Jewish people do not need a Jewish state, for they are able to live in peace with all people do not try to harm them.
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