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One Party Rule Forever!
Rhinoceros Times ^ | February 19, 2009 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 02/20/2009 1:33:57 PM PST by lady lawyer

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To: lady lawyer

“which is allowed to count only living people who are actually located and named, with no “estimates” and no fudging.”

I’m not sure we need an amendment, just a ruling by the supreme court. The Constitution uses the word “enumerate” with regards the census. Enumerate means to count or list. Estimating is not enumerating and if an attempt is made to do a census with statistics instead of counts it is likely unconstitutional.


21 posted on 02/20/2009 5:07:31 PM PST by yazoo
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I've listened to Michael Steele describe his ideas for conservative outreach to the black community, a segment that votes overwhelmingly democrat but is traditionally against abortion and homosexual marriage.

Do you still think he is a POS and a “moroon”?

22 posted on 02/20/2009 5:08:27 PM PST by Jacquerie (Hayek is the antidote to Alinsky.)
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If his stand is anti-gun rights he needs to go. I live in Maryland just outside of C.

I also have heard his position on outreach to others and he is dead wrong in his method.

We need to stand on our values and conservatives will find us.

I was waiting for him to say something about Porkulus BEFORE it passed, not a word.


23 posted on 02/20/2009 5:13:03 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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Michael Steele publicly stated that he was against the porkulus before the date of infamy, 13 February 2009.

Do you still think he is a POS and a “moroon”?

24 posted on 02/20/2009 6:44:44 PM PST by Jacquerie (Hayek is the antidote to Alinsky.)
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It would make sense to count citizens only, but unfortunately the Constitution says to count everyone, except “Indians not taxed” (see the 14th amendment, sec. 2).


25 posted on 02/20/2009 7:32:02 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Jacquerie

You still refuse to address his position on gun control.

Why?

I already answered your question BTW.

His position against our 2nd amendment rights makes him and anyone else who holds an anti-gun rights position a POS moroon.


26 posted on 02/20/2009 7:37:23 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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To: Jacquerie

Oh and a RINO moroon at that.


27 posted on 02/20/2009 7:38:13 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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There is a subculture at FR that hurts our conservative cause. You typify it. The subculture believes that unless a person tows 100% of the conservative line, said person deserves not only no support but also crude abuse. It turns away the young lurkers who are perhaps suspicious of liberal propaganda and are looking for an ideological home. Your posts only support the Leftist view of conservatives as uncouth knuckle-draggers.

Rather than make the effort to convince others of their conservative ideals, the subculture hurts our cause through childish insults. They spend as much time tearing down the very men who work to spread the conservative gospel as they do on the enemies of our Constitution.

Steele is neither a Constitutional conservative nor a Rino. He is, as Ronald Reagan once described another, a friend who agrees with him 80% of the time.

28 posted on 02/21/2009 8:18:33 AM PST by Jacquerie (Hayek is the antidote to Alinsky.)
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It would make sense to count citizens only, but unfortunately the Constitution says to count everyone, except “Indians not taxed” (see the 14th amendment, sec. 2).

It would seem with the "Indians not taxed” phrase that the intent is to only count people subject to taxes. Since illegals don't pay taxes they shouldn't be counted.

29 posted on 02/23/2009 6:15:34 AM PST by BubbaBasher (Providence moves slowly, but the devil always hurries.)
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