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Day Laborers Are Easy Prey in New Orleans
New York Times ^ | February 15, 2009 | Adam Nossiter

Posted on 02/18/2009 3:21:00 PM PST by reaganaut1

NEW ORLEANS — They are the men still rebuilding New Orleans more than three years after Hurricane Katrina, the head-down laborers from Honduras, Mexico and Guatemala who work on the blazing hot roofs and inside the fetid homes for a wad of cash at the end of the day.

But on the street, these laborers are known as “walking A.T.M.’s.”

Their pockets stuffed with bills, the laborers are vulnerable because of language problems and their status as illegal immigrants. And as Hispanics have become the prey of choice in crumbling neighborhoods here in one of America’s most crime-ridden cities, racial friction between the newcomers and longtime black residents has moved close to the surface.

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Many bluntly assigned a racial component, saying that it was “los morenos” — their colloquial term for blacks — who were after them. “When we are leaving here after work, we have to go on foot,” Mr. Billado said, speaking through an interpreter. “The blacks are waiting for us. They’ll beat you up. They’ll take your money.”

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Roger Cruz, from Honduras, said: “A lot of people don’t know how to defend themselves. There’s racism of blacks against Latinos.”

The accusation of racism does not ring true to some city leaders. The Hispanic workers tacitly acknowledge some unfamiliarity with the dangerous ways of inner-city life, and in the eyes of some in New Orleans, they have mistaken simple opportunism for racism.

It is not exactly racial prejudice that makes the Hispanic laborers the target of choice, said the Rev. John C. Raphael Jr., a black former New Orleans police officer and now a minister who has led anticrime rallies here.

“I think it’s not directly racial,” Mr. Raphael said, but rather “the fact that they were vulnerable, they were taken advantage of.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: blacks; daylaborers; hispanics; illegalaliens; neworleans; nola
It's not racial, the black criminals will mug anyone. That's comforting. New Orleans has many evil people, and I don't want more tax money used to "rebuild", but I bet it will be.
1 posted on 02/18/2009 3:21:00 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

There’s a way to stop the muggings - go the hell home to Mexico.


2 posted on 02/18/2009 3:22:14 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: reaganaut1

Get out the Violins!


3 posted on 02/18/2009 3:22:22 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: reaganaut1
Blacks mugging and, in some cases, killing Hispanic day laborers has been going on for years. Was a problem next door in Trenton until los Esquineros go protection.

Of course, there will be retards coming on this thread saying how the blacks robbing hispanics would have been "nice hardworking Americans" were it not for "illegal immigration." Trust me folks, the morons doing the mugging wouldn't do an honest day's work if you put a gun to THEIR heads.

4 posted on 02/18/2009 3:23:21 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: reaganaut1

I bet it is racial (remember Korean shop owners in LA, 1992), but criminals likely target the sort of people who are least likely to fight back or go to the police as well.


5 posted on 02/18/2009 3:24:28 PM PST by dr_who
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To: reaganaut1
Many bluntly assigned a racial component, saying that it was “los morenos”

More like, "los moronos."

6 posted on 02/18/2009 3:25:10 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: reaganaut1
chocolate city with nuts
7 posted on 02/18/2009 3:27:48 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: reaganaut1
The accusation of racism does not ring true to some city leaders. The Hispanic workers tacitly acknowledge some unfamiliarity with the dangerous ways of inner-city life, and in the eyes of some in New Orleans, they have mistaken simple opportunism for racism.

Interesting how the black liberal sees crime as an opportunity.

8 posted on 02/18/2009 3:28:10 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Gaffer

Can we keep the workers and send back the criminals instead?


9 posted on 02/18/2009 3:29:25 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: reaganaut1

I find I don’t have a dog in this fight.


10 posted on 02/18/2009 3:29:37 PM PST by Mogwai (You say "far right" like that's a bad thing, Arlen!)
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To: reaganaut1

Bienvenidos amigos ala ciudad de “chocolate”


11 posted on 02/18/2009 3:32:08 PM PST by mgc1122
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

The only thing racial about this is that blacks are the perps. They could care less that the people they are robbing are Hispanic. They would rob other blacks , Hispanics, Indians, or Chinese if the opportunity presented itself.


12 posted on 02/18/2009 3:32:16 PM PST by Venturer
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To: reaganaut1

How is this stuff happening on Obama’s watch? Didn’t these criminals (the muggers that is) make the Obama pledge?


13 posted on 02/18/2009 3:32:29 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Mogwai

Snicker


14 posted on 02/18/2009 3:33:10 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: reaganaut1

Reparations?


15 posted on 02/18/2009 3:33:24 PM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: reaganaut1
Exactly.

Only the vulnerable.

I guess Mexicans, or anyone foreign-born, or the elderly, or the disabled, or anyone alone could fall into that category.

Don't you like the fact that outsiders come into rebuilt the city, rather than the citizens?

Nope, the citizens would rather rob from the very people doing the work they should have done themselves as soon as the water receded.

I am anti-illegal alien, but Americans like these muggers don't help the cause.

Here's a thought:

Send the illegals home and claim it was for there own safety (not a far cry from the truth, Then let's see if New Orleans gets back to “normal” any sooner.

Better yet, maybe this amnesty type thing could work if we do this:

Make 1 illegal a citizen and EXPORT 1 thug criminal to south of the border. Sort of a cultural exchange deal.

16 posted on 02/18/2009 3:34:53 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: icwhatudo

I think they’re a matched set....so, no.....


17 posted on 02/18/2009 3:35:33 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: reaganaut1

I surprised Al Sharpton hasn’t pimp-marched against this racism.


18 posted on 02/18/2009 3:36:38 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: reaganaut1

Illegals are known for carrying cash. That = muggings. Easy targets since most are indeed illegal and don’t want ICE to find out. Criminals are criminals because it’s the easiest way to cash. The easier the better!

As far as sympathy goes? Go back to Mexico. I’ll bet there’s hardly ANY crime there! `sarc


19 posted on 02/18/2009 3:36:45 PM PST by albie
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To: reaganaut1

“Hey, my friend, I bet you I can tell you where you got them shoes.”


20 posted on 02/18/2009 3:38:48 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: reaganaut1

Great sentiments there, but despite what you think we’ve spent billions rebuilding it, and doing so in a way that has additional costs other than financial and that benefits few people other than connected contractors and the Mexican government.

See my comments here:

http://24ahead.com/adam-nossiternyt-discovers-illegal-aliens-new-orleans-vulner

I spent a lot of time trying to get people to do things the right way, and I got zero support from either the right or the left. And, we see what happened.


21 posted on 02/18/2009 3:39:15 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

“Opportunism?”

The mind reels.


23 posted on 02/18/2009 3:41:05 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: reaganaut1
He said the laborers called the police, “but they took forever to get there.”

Cops had to pick up their cut of the proceeds?

24 posted on 02/18/2009 3:42:28 PM PST by csvset
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To: reaganaut1

I’m sorry, but if they had stayed in Mexico where they belong, they wouldn’t be getting mugged.
The muggers belong in jail and the muggees belong in Mexico.


25 posted on 02/18/2009 3:47:05 PM PST by taillightchaser (!)
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To: csvset
He said the laborers called the police, “but they took forever to get there.”

When it's life or death and every second counts, the police are only minutes away.

26 posted on 02/18/2009 3:49:22 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Doogle

“chocolate city with nuts”

OK, just because you have the “Sopranos” you don’t have to be smug.


27 posted on 02/18/2009 3:54:46 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (I'm studying Voodoo...curses cast daily. Landrieu be gone to the devil...)
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To: Clemenza

There will more and more violence between blacks and Hispanics as they compete for [unskilled] jobs. They have the highest out of wedlock birth rates and the highest school drop out rates. This is the social pathology for failure. And these numbers continue to increase thru immigration and birth rates. We are creating a permanent underclass.


28 posted on 02/18/2009 3:56:28 PM PST by kabar
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To: csvset

You may be closer to the truth than you know.


29 posted on 02/18/2009 3:56:35 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (I'm studying Voodoo...curses cast daily. Landrieu be gone to the devil...)
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To: reaganaut1

Guess this is the type of racial discussion the liberals new AG a-Hold-er wants to have?


30 posted on 02/18/2009 3:57:20 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Gaffer
There’s a way to stop the muggings - go the hell home to Mexico.

I say send the black thugs to Mexico instead.

31 posted on 02/18/2009 3:57:28 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: reaganaut1
crime-ridden cities

English is such a screwy language. No wonder they prefer their own.

32 posted on 02/18/2009 3:58:18 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: GrouchoTex

.New Orleans had one of the highest murder and crime rates before Katrina. A “normal” New Orleans will be no different, just different victims.


33 posted on 02/18/2009 3:58:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Absolutely correct. I see the US of A becoming socially like Brazil, IMHO.


34 posted on 02/18/2009 4:00:40 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: reaganaut1

Its still disgusting, that in a USA city, the criminals line up in a feeding frenzy as the day laborers walk home.
Legal status is a separate issue. A city that lets predators run wild is just a national disgrace.

Their homicide rate is a factor of 10 worse than some other cities we already consider dangerous.


35 posted on 02/18/2009 4:01:44 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Mogwai

You do have a dog in the fight, unless you are willing to cede certain geographic areas of the USA to criminal gangs as “no-go zones”.

Thats a sad concept. I understand the desire to say you’ll never go to New Orleans, so it doesnt matter. But its criminal that we allow certain areas of the nation to become unreasonable to visit due to crime. Its an insurrection and should be put down by the national guard.


36 posted on 02/18/2009 4:07:41 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: dfwgator
I say send the black thugs to Mexico instead.

I agree. At least the illegal Mexicans are productive.

37 posted on 02/18/2009 4:12:47 PM PST by Drew68
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To: kabar

Sad but true.

My wife and I did like to go there now and again, every couple of years or so, before Katrina. Only 6-7 hours away from here.
Always had a good time, but always watched my back.

Only been back once since, post-Katrina, ironically, one week after Ike hit here. I was amazed at what had NOT been done.

Went down to Galveston about 6 weeks ago (only 1 hour away). 3 months after Ike, a LOT farther along in recovery than New Orleans is 3-4 years later, with a lot less FEMA and other Fed money pouring in.


38 posted on 02/18/2009 4:14:15 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: RichInOC

LOL!

My dad fell for that in the early 70’s. I was around 10 or so. I never forgot it!


39 posted on 02/18/2009 4:17:16 PM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free....)
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To: Clemenza
We had better address the education of "minorities" in this country or we will be going off a cliff. Our future depends on it.

I don't like this phony classification of non-Hispanic whites, which was probably dreamt up by the Dems to help them play identity politics. Hispanics come in all colors and they are not a monolith by any means. It is like classifying Chinese, Indians, Filipnos, and Pakistanis as Asians. Reps should not accept these categories even though the Census Bureau uses it.

40 posted on 02/18/2009 4:17:21 PM PST by kabar
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To: reaganaut1
We're discussing chocolate violins, right?


41 posted on 02/18/2009 4:34:35 PM PST by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

:)


42 posted on 02/18/2009 4:36:46 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: reaganaut1

Anybody who does not know their way around in NO is prey and always was.


43 posted on 02/18/2009 4:48:42 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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Anybody who does not know their way around in NO is prey and always was.

Yeah, pity the person who takes a wrong exit off the interstate and is instantly transported to Mogadishu. Shouldn't be like this in America.

44 posted on 02/18/2009 4:51:18 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Gaffer

Why do you assume they are illegal and not citizens who deserve equal protection?


45 posted on 02/18/2009 4:57:47 PM PST by colormeread
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To: colormeread
...their status as illegal immigrants.

Maybe it was this line in the story?

46 posted on 02/18/2009 5:07:32 PM PST by manic4organic (We Are S0 Screwed)
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To: BBell

ping


47 posted on 02/18/2009 6:15:51 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Thanks for the ping. Just this week or last week there was a home invasion targeting Hispanics here. I've said it before, Louisiana does not have an illegal problem. It's not an illegal friendly state.
48 posted on 02/18/2009 7:24:51 PM PST by BBell
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