Posted on 02/10/2009 5:22:37 AM PST by kellynla
Reporting from Sacramento — A panel of three federal judges, saying overcrowding in state prisons has deprived inmates of their right to adequate healthcare, tentatively ruled Monday that the state must reduce the population in those lockups by as many as 57,000 people.
The judges issued the decisionafter a trial in two long-running cases brought by inmates to protest the state of medical and mental healthcare in the prisons.
Although their order is not final, U.S. District Court Judges Thelton Henderson and Lawrence Karlton and 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Stephen Reinhardt effectively told the state that it had lost the trial and would have to make dramatic changes in its prisons unless it could reach a settlement with inmates' lawyers.
State officials immediately said they would appeal.
If the state is ordered to reduce the prison population, it would likely be able to do so over two or three years, so it would not have to release large numbers of inmates at once. Some methods of cutting the population include limiting new admissions, changing policies so parole violators return to prison less frequently, and giving prisoners more time off of their sentences for good behavior and rehabilitation efforts.
The judges said these types of measures could save the state more than $900 million a year in prison costs, money that could be used by cities and counties to put those who otherwise would have gone to prison into local jails or treatment programs.
The state's 33 prisons were designed for 84,000 inmates, and they now hold 158,000, nearly double their designed capacity. The rest of the 170,000 in the correctional system are in out-of-state prisons and other facilities.
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It ain't rocket science! shezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Wow that’s a great solution to the fiscal crisis ... Let out all of the prisoners.
Remind me to stay out of CA.
What will that help more - crime rate or unemployment?
Deport the aliens and end the “war on drugs”....
Exactly... and not only them. That would cut more costs in healthcare, housing, crime, welfare/food stamps/medicaid/WIC, schools, law enforcement and Immigration can finally look for illegal jihadists that cover this country. Oh, and that would create many jobs (and don’t think all of them are ag or service either).
Thanks to Ahnuld, Ca is going to look like the future in Terminator.
I “think” the Bureau of Prisons reported some time ago that there were about 100K foreigners incarcerated in America.
No reason why American taxpayers should have to pay to incarcerate other countries’ criminals. At a conservative cost of 25K a year per prisoner, I "think" that's about $2.5 Trillion a year!(my calculator doesn't compute that high so I might be wrong.LOL)
Can the judges just order people not to be criminals?
Exactly! (If there were only someone in the WH as smart as you!)
Get into an argument with a lefty over the current scale of compulsory collectivism. Without fail, you are immediately charged with wanting to cut out core services - police, fire, roads, water/wastewater mains etc.
Cutting core services is what our spiteful leaders do when tax money is tight. They NEVER cut the crap. They always cut police, fire, defense, prisons - among the only things the government SHOULD be doing. All other cuts are described as “draconian”.
I don’t think truly essential services are cut solely because the cuts will prop up support for tax increases; these things are cut also because “everyone will suffer equally”. The other services are things for which the government does not (yet) have a crippling monopoly, meaning that the “rich” can largely escape any direct pain.
That is the mentality we are working with here folks.
Execute the murderers. That should do it.
If they gotta get rid of prisoners then euthanize them.
A flight home is cheaper than three hots and a cot. Ship 'em back and drop 'em off.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Is there any provision in President Hussein’s stimulus package for building prisons in California?
Not only illegal aliens, but legal resident aliens who commit felonies are subject to deportation.
But if Bush didn't have the cajones to deport illegal alien criminals, do you think Hussein will?
This is Obama’s plan to balance the budget: Perform more abortions; kill the elderly (65 and over) by restricting their health care; reduce the military 25%; eliminate the war on drugs; eliminate NASA; reduce prison populations; legalize controlled substances.
I would reduce the prison population too. They just wouldn’t care for how I would do it.
Have to make room for the new crop of legislators.
I must have missed where he nominated himself to the state bench and ruled on this case. Could you direct me to that link, please?
As a gratuitous (that means ‘unnecessary and uncalled for’, in case you wondered) aside, I might note that what is happening in CA was not unforeseen, certainly not by those of us who saw it coming and fled, with our children and chattels, for our lives. We were proved prescient and we told those who remained what was coming. This was AFTER Gov Schwartzeneggar was elected, by the way. He is not the mover in this, he is unable to prevent the Democrats doing politically what their allies and adherents want: loot the treasury and squirrel away the proceeds. He sometimes can stem the tide.
What we are seeing is what it looks like when an entire gang of gypsies, tramps and thieves gets handed the entire battleship, anchor included. They only look like they aren’t staggering under the weight yet.
If you live there and don’t like what you see, get out now.
I am sick & tired of being the depository for every other countries’ criminals!
Secure BOTH borders and deport ‘em ALL!
Ship them back by slow uncomfortable boat, without food and limited water. To the southern end of the country, so that they have further to go to get back. That is what was done during Eisenhower administration “Operation Wetback”.
I've proposed a similar solution, but I want them dropped off unannounced at Tierra Del Fuego...it's a MUCH longer walk!
I just figured they could be flown home and dropped off. Off the back ramp. That might make an impression on others who wanted to jump the border.
FYI, your boy RINOld has run this state into the crapper. Or haven't you heard...
I just love you clowns who live out of state and support RINOld!
So while you left CA with your tail between your legs;
those of us who decided to stay and fight will deal with our problems without your condescending blather.
Class Dismissed.
Absolutely! I see that all the time on the local level, state level, and federal level.
I see the whole thing (government) as basically an extortion racket. "Ehhhhhh, ya know ... you could pay us a little money. That way we could protect you -- make sure nothing bad happens to you. 'Cause bad things happen sometimes. When people don't get protection. Know what I mean?"
I was born in CA, madame, and lived there for 50 years. I know whereof I spoke. If you think you can fix CA, then go right ahead.
Good luck with that.
Sorry if you live in CA, come out the East coast, we are nice people. (just stay away from DC)
A lot of countries won’t take their felons back.
Can you blame ‘em?
We have to have them on the street first. They're a little hard to get to in prison.
I guess any future arrests become “mulligans” instead.
Ship them all up the coast to Oregon and Washington, two other states full of insane liberals.
This is the place to try out “Plan Daschle” ration health care and promote “volunatry” euthanasia.
No thanks, we have too many “loonies and criminals” from VA and elsewhere in America & around the world living here already. LMAO
hey, genius, I don't where the hell you've been for the past 7 years but I don't have the right plumbing to be a female...gezzzzzzzzzzzzz...
with clowns like you around, we're better off with you out of CA in NC! LMAO
Now quit bothering me with your lame posts!
“A lot of countries won’t take their felons back.”
Oh, if there is a will; there is a way. BIG SMILE
You are pretty condescending. I don’t have a dog in the fight but lighten up Francis.
I hate the 9th but they may force an end to the illegal issue as well as end the idiotic war on drugs.
We have lost more liberties and been smitten by government more with this lame ass attempt to make our police force a domestic military to catch people doing drugs.
Not a problem. Have fun.
“I don’t have a dog in the fight”
then MYOB!
and my name is not “Francis”, genius...it’s Kelly...
and Mr. Kelly to you!
learn how to read...gezzzzzzzzzz
Learn how to Google.
It is a popular phrase from the movie Stripes.
Maybe we could contract with one of the poorer African countries to take in our illegals.
I don’t think giving them a get out of jail free pass due to their illegal status will end well.
They just come right back.
Smitten or smote?
They wouldn't if IKE were still POTUS. LOL
Of course if we had a governor who had a set,
he could call out the CA NG and do what GWB failed to do for seven years...secure the friggin’ border so they couldn't just waltz back in!!!
U should learn to MYOB, “Francis!”
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