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Afghan leader considered unreliable by Obama administration
Dallas News ^ | Feb. 8, 2009 | Dexter Filkins

Posted on 02/08/2009 3:58:59 PM PST by FocusNexus

President Barack Obama has said he regards Karzai as unreliable and ineffective. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said he presided over a "narco-state." The Americans making Afghan policy, worried that the war is being lost, are vowing to bypass Karzai and deal directly with the governors in the countryside.

At home, Karzai faces a widening insurgency and a population that blames him for the lack of economic progress and the corrupt officials that seem to stand at every doorway of his government. His face, which once adorned the walls of tea shops across the country, is today much less visible.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bho44; bhogwot; clinton; clowncabinet; firsthundreddays; karzai; morons; obama; obamaregime; soshillary; tm; unfit; wot
Great -- insulting IN PUBLIC a friendly nation's elected President is a great way to make friends.

Obama is much worse than Carter -- he is undermining Karzai and setting the stage for a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, with resurgent Al Queda.

As someone said, Obama is either dangerously naive or complicit. Pick one.

1 posted on 02/08/2009 3:58:59 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

Karzi reside over a Narco State ?

Obama should embrace him. Karzi doesn’t inhale. Clinton staffers should appreciate that.


2 posted on 02/08/2009 4:04:27 PM PST by 4Speed
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To: FocusNexus

I consider ZERO and the pants suit totally unreliable and unqualified. You don’t say things like this in public.

Never thought I would agree that ZERO is worse then Carter because I didn’t think that was possible. Also think the pantsuit is worse then Albright which is saying a lot. Even though I didn’t agree a lot with Albright she wasn’t as bad as the pantsuit who is clueless.


3 posted on 02/08/2009 4:04:29 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: FocusNexus

Complicit!


4 posted on 02/08/2009 4:04:33 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: FocusNexus
President Barack Obama has said he regards Karzai as unreliable and ineffective.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Translation: Karzai is not a leftist radical Muslim and cannot be trusted.

Obama soon to be impeached.Or the Afghanis will have him if the Mossad does not first.

I wouldn't want to be on ANY of his personal security details.......ever.

5 posted on 02/08/2009 4:04:58 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: FocusNexus

Seems a bit unilateralist to me. Oh well, I happen to agree with Obama in this instance, but I know he won’t do anything to back his insult of Karzai, so it’s a negative.


6 posted on 02/08/2009 4:05:58 PM PST by Carling (The word bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out. - G. Carlin)
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To: FocusNexus
Go ahead...hit the man when he's down (you got sll sorts of practice doing THAT when W was around), but remember...

His brother is runs one of the biggest drug operations there and drugs dictate policy when agriculture was never "cultivated" properly after the war.

Farming WOULD have been better in the long run, but it would have taken more energy than simply reinstating the drug $ world.

Watch your back ...you start takin' THIS road, B.Hussein Obama...

7 posted on 02/08/2009 4:09:54 PM PST by NordP (CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
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To: FocusNexus

hussein’s inexperience and plain dumb assed... dumber than dirt mind is going to get the entire world blown up.

LLS


8 posted on 02/08/2009 4:09:56 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Carling

Having a private assessment of a foreign leader and taking his strengths and weaknesses into account when formulating policy and plans is sensible and normal. Running arround insulting IN PUBLIC foreign leaders whose cooperation we NEED is INSANE and considering we are talking about the war on terror, it’s suicidal.

As I said, this only emboldens the already resurgent Taliban, to take back Afghanistan and what do you think that will mean for Al Qaeda and their attacks on us?!


9 posted on 02/08/2009 4:10:05 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: FocusNexus
As someone said, Obama is either dangerously naive or complicit. Pick one.

I wonder who he has in mind to bargain with. This looks like a deliberate campaign to oust Karzai, very much like the Kennedy plan to get rid of Diem in South VietNam. It destabilized the central government and led to a world of trouble because we didn't have a realistic replacement up our sleeves.

I think Obama has some real hare-brained scheme in mind, which almost certanly will blow up in his idiot face and cost unnecessary loss of American life.

10 posted on 02/08/2009 4:10:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: FocusNexus

“Karzai as unreliable and ineffective. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said he presided over a “narco-state.”

Obamachev is preparing the ground to bail surrender Afghanistan to the Taliban. He halted the surge. He’ll use the lack of Nato commitment to pull out.

If I was Karzai I’d be sure I have a seat on the last plane out.


11 posted on 02/08/2009 4:11:20 PM PST by y6162
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To: FocusNexus
Sort of like JFK and Diem? Only at the end rather than the beginning. An excuse to leave rather than an attempt to “help”?
12 posted on 02/08/2009 4:11:44 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: FocusNexus

I’m guessing that Karzai hasn’t given either zero or billary the ‘donations’ they have come to expect.


13 posted on 02/08/2009 4:14:07 PM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: hinckley buzzard

“This looks like a deliberate campaign to oust Karzai, very much like the Kennedy plan to get rid of Diem in South VietNam”

And the way Carter helped oust the Shah of Iran, best friend of the US in the Middle East. That of course resulted in the return of the Ayatollah and the current radical Islamic regime in Iran, a danger to the entire world, with their quest for nuclear weapons, which they will achieve very soon, and they already demonstrated they havce the technology for long range missiles.


14 posted on 02/08/2009 4:14:17 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: FocusNexus

Jimmy Carter said the Shah of Iran was unreliable, so he brought in the mullahs to help stabilize Iran and cause worldwide terror.

Welcome back Carter. You are unreliable.


15 posted on 02/08/2009 4:17:57 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: FocusNexus

We need to get word to Karzai that President Dinky is considered unreliable.


16 posted on 02/08/2009 4:18:28 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: FocusNexus
Today's article in the Middle East Times:

Many people still mistakenly believe the Taliban were opposed to the drug trade due to the ban they placed on opium cultivation during their last year in power. However, even prior to capturing Kabul on Sept. 27, 1996, the Taliban made deals to allow opium cultivation and processing in return for political support and a cut of the profits.<.i

The entire piece The Taliban opium connection is well worth reading.

17 posted on 02/08/2009 4:21:56 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: FocusNexus

I wonder if this has anything to do with Russia offering to “help out” in Afghanistan?


18 posted on 02/08/2009 4:37:19 PM PST by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Carling; NordP
His brother is runs one of the biggest drug operations there and drugs dictate policy when agriculture was never “cultivated” properly after the war”

You two, along with the author of this piece, the President of the United States and his Secretary of State apparently are wonderfully ignorant of the facts on the ground in Afghanistan. Rather then cling to notions of your own infallibility, the lot of you might want to actually learn some things about Afghanistan rather then mindlessly cling to the usual Do Nothing Isolationist dogma.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/02/02/afghanistan.poppy.farms/index.html

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/stories/DN-texasguard_01int.ART.State.Edition2.4c8a89a.html

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=896298

19 posted on 02/08/2009 4:43:25 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Obamanomics: we have to destroy the US Economy in order to save it!)
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To: FocusNexus

Not good when we have boots on the ground.


20 posted on 02/08/2009 4:44:49 PM PST by easternsky
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To: FocusNexus

Look at Holbrooke’s latest statements....the Obama admin. is looking to exit!
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/09/europe/09munich.php


21 posted on 02/08/2009 4:56:53 PM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: spyone

My interpretation.


22 posted on 02/08/2009 4:57:36 PM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: PhiKapMom
You don’t say things like this in public.

That was pathetic. He thinks that publicly scapegoating Karzai for his strategic decisions is going to make Afghanistan more stable?
23 posted on 02/08/2009 5:03:49 PM PST by CowboyJay (Stop picking on Porkulus. He's not fat, he's just big-boned.)
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To: FocusNexus

“Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said he presided over a “narco-state.” “

Afghanistan is by definition a narco-state - IIRC the taliban made more inroads into this than anyone else in recent history.

*Huge* amounts of money and power (presumably including some nation-states or elements within the governments of some nations) behind the export, what result is one to expect?


24 posted on 02/08/2009 5:09:26 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: FocusNexus
Quite a bit of symmetry between The One's view of Karzai and our own Dear Leader's traits:

Community Organizer Barack Obama is unreliable and ineffective. Productive Americans hope to bypass Obama and deal directly with the governors in the states.

The Community Organizer faces a widening disgust and a population that blames him for the lack of economic progress and the corrupt tax-evading officials that seem to stand at every doorway of his government ....

25 posted on 02/08/2009 5:45:24 PM PST by MathDoc (If there ever was a time that Obama looked like an amateur, itÂ’s right now.)
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To: FocusNexus

So does this mean the US specops folks who are protecting Karzai as we speak should stand down, and not lay their lives on the line for an “ineffectual” leader? Just what all the boys in uniform want to hear: dying for nothing.

Way out of his league...


26 posted on 02/08/2009 5:48:17 PM PST by Per-Ling
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To: MNJohnnie

EXCELLENT info. You are right. I must have spoken based on info from the past. Glad to hear changes have been made. Thanks for bringing the info to our attention.


27 posted on 02/08/2009 5:55:25 PM PST by NordP (CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
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To: FocusNexus
Well, Karzai is unreliable and ineffective. He is preferable to the Taliban, but why can't the U.S. go back to telling the truth about things? Americans have never been very good liars, at least compared to the French or the Russians. If the leader of a country is a bloodthirsty thug, then say so. If he is an ineffectual nitwit, say that then. There is no justice without honesty.
28 posted on 02/08/2009 5:56:36 PM PST by tvdog12345
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To: FocusNexus

Complicit.


29 posted on 02/08/2009 5:57:51 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..
The Americans making Afghan policy, worried that the war is being lost, are vowing to bypass Karzai and deal directly with the governors in the countryside. At home, Karzai faces a widening insurgency and a population that blames him for the lack of economic progress and the corrupt officials that seem to stand at every doorway of his government. His face, which once adorned the walls of tea shops across the country, is today much less visible.

30 posted on 02/08/2009 6:56:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: FocusNexus

I expect nothing but words from Obama, as I posted. What is your problem? This is a negative. I already posted this.


31 posted on 02/08/2009 6:56:38 PM PST by Carling (The word bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out. - G. Carlin)
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To: FocusNexus
Ah yes, shades of the idiot peanut farmer trashing the Shah. What a great start in creating another islamic republic thirsting to kill the 'great satan'. This Obozo is a total idiot.

Nam Vat

32 posted on 02/08/2009 7:15:41 PM PST by Nam Vet (This space for rent............Hard currency only)
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To: FocusNexus

Karzai isn’t unreliable, but Hamas loving Palestinians now cleared to live here are? What a frickin’ idoit!


33 posted on 02/08/2009 8:45:03 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: FocusNexus
I think that a bit more federalism worked in Iraq and might be prudent in Afghanistan... however we ought to be wary of deeming leaders on our side to be "unreliable"... we heard that before:


34 posted on 02/08/2009 10:17:08 PM PST by SolidWood ("NO on the stimulus package" Governor Palin said.)
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To: Carling

Relax, I wasn’t criticizing you, merely expanding on the situation.


35 posted on 02/08/2009 10:58:57 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: FocusNexus

I am having a hard time relaxing since the ZERO took office, but I hear you loud and clear!


36 posted on 02/08/2009 11:02:42 PM PST by Carling (The word bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out. - G. Carlin)
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To: Carling

“I am having a hard time relaxing since the ZERO took office”

You and me both. He has already done more damage in the two weeks he’s been in office, than most presidents in their entire term. And he is just getting started.

Sorry for ruining your evening. ;)

The one bright spot is that most Republicans are sticking together against the socialist spending bill.


37 posted on 02/08/2009 11:10:06 PM PST by FocusNexus ("Good and evil are present in this world, and between the two there can be no compromise." GW Bush)
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To: FocusNexus

The Afghan administration thinks that the Obama administration is unrelibable.


38 posted on 02/09/2009 7:22:04 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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