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White House Nabs Political Control over Census for 2012 Redistricting
Newsmax ^ | February 8, 2009

Posted on 02/08/2009 3:32:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Obama administration is ending the Census Bureau's traditional autonomy – a move that has Republicans outraged over the White House's politicization of counting Americans.

Last week, an administration official revealed that the yet-to-be-named director of the Census Bureau will report to the White House rather than Commerce Secretary nominee Judd Gregg, a Republican.

That prompted a blistering response from two key Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

"Any attempt by the Obama administration to circumvent the census process for their political benefit will be met with fierce opposition as this ill-conceived proposal undermines a constitutionally obligated process that speaks to the very heart of our democracy," California Rep. Darrell Issa wrote in a letter to President Barack Obama. The letter was co-signed by North Carolina Rep. Patrick McHenry.

"Requiring the census director to report directly to the White House and placing responsibility for administration of the Bureau outside_the Department of Commerce may even violate federal law," the letter stated. "According to Title 13 of the U.S. Code, the Bureau is to be administered 'within, and under the jurisdiction of, the Department of Commerce.' According to U.S. Code, the Executive Branch is limited to providing support for the Bureau in the form of information and resources."

The census counts all Americans every 10 years, and the results are used to allocate congressional seats (redistricting), electoral votes, and some government funding. With congressional_elections coming in 2012, the fear is that the 2010 census will be manipulated in a way that results in positive redistricting for Democrats.

The census firestorm erupted after Congressional Quarterly reported that “The decision [on the census director] came after_black and Hispanic leaders raised questions about Commerce Secretary nominee Judd Gregg's commitment to funding the census." In 2000, Gregg opposed emergency funding for the census.

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Unbelievable!!
1 posted on 02/08/2009 3:32:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now we know why they are giving 5 billion to ACORN. A perfect job for them.


2 posted on 02/08/2009 3:35:14 PM PST by screaminsunshine (f)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The democrats are definitely out of control, and I no longer think power can be pried from their grasp using conventional means.

Probably doesn't matter, as the majority of Americans seem content with these despots in charge.

3 posted on 02/08/2009 3:35:21 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what happens when morons can be lured to the polls by a pack of cigarettes and then are allowed to vote.


4 posted on 02/08/2009 3:36:25 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ( Elections have consequences.)
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To: skeeter
majority of Americans seem content with these despots in charge.

Count me as one who doesn't.
5 posted on 02/08/2009 3:36:28 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the hill to die on.


6 posted on 02/08/2009 3:36:38 PM PST by MattinNJ (Palin or Sanford in 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Redistricting and micro managment of elections on the local level were my first thoughts when I heard that they were taking control of the census.


7 posted on 02/08/2009 3:37:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

National Socialism-—here we come. God Help the USA


8 posted on 02/08/2009 3:37:07 PM PST by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It looks like Obama is taking a page from Clinton and doing so many shady things that none of them get a lot of focused attention.


9 posted on 02/08/2009 3:37:14 PM PST by Hacksaw
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They’re going to be “outsourcing” the census to ACORN, since they were so effective in registering dems to vote.

Mark


10 posted on 02/08/2009 3:37:57 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Concentration camps coming shortly. For Freepers not terrorists. Hope you all have attics to hide in.


11 posted on 02/08/2009 3:39:02 PM PST by exist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Control of the Census won’t matter after O signs this non-stimulus bill and flushes the Democratic party into oblivion. We are headed for hard times and Captain Zero and the MSM will be held responsible. To the GOP, sometimes nothing is a real cool hand.


12 posted on 02/08/2009 3:39:19 PM PST by hflynn ( The One is really The Number Two)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This is what happens when morons can be lured to the polls by a pack of cigarettes and then are allowed to vote.

And have their votes counts more than once.
13 posted on 02/08/2009 3:41:19 PM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: exist

The difference between Ann Frank & her family and us is that we are well-armed.


14 posted on 02/08/2009 3:41:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering." Barry Goldwater)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So what this bastard is basically saying is, “Is there anything that will prevent me from trampling on this other group of people ... the ones who didn’t vote for me?”

I am going to need to order in more loathing, contempt and disgust for this little worm.


15 posted on 02/08/2009 3:44:30 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Hacksaw

Good point. These things have been like a swarm of bees. You no sooner see one than there’s another one stinging you.


16 posted on 02/08/2009 3:44:45 PM PST by livius
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To: exist

They’re the ones who’ll want to hide.


17 posted on 02/08/2009 3:45:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BUMP


18 posted on 02/08/2009 3:45:31 PM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT WILL BE THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not unbelievable at all.

Just another step,,,

just like giving billions to ACORN,,,,and

spending over 20 million to relocate Palestinians to the US,,,

to GUARANTEE democratic control of our government for many, many many years.

19 posted on 02/08/2009 3:47:22 PM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: skeeter
the majority of Americans seem content with these despots in charge.

The majority of Americans don't realize that The Gang of Three (Zero, Stretch, and Dingy)won't need them for much longer, like the majority of Russians didn't realize that Uncle Joe didn't need THEM any longer.

20 posted on 02/08/2009 3:49:04 PM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
White House Nabs Political Control over Census for 2012 Redistricting

This and the ACORN give-a-way have to be setting off warning bells.

It is UNPRECEDENTED HUBRIS the likes of which we have not seen since Hitler's rise to or Stalin's tightening grip on power.

It is an out of the blue, ungloved sucker punch to those who play by the rules. When will our gloves come off?

What next?

21 posted on 02/08/2009 3:49:11 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Atta boy, Judd. Is it too late to say “no deal” and sit in the Senate? You got rolled.


22 posted on 02/08/2009 3:49:40 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Play the new "rehab" card: apologize for cheating on your taxes)
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To: stockstrader
I forgot to add to post #19,,,,,the next step,,,

which will be some form of amnesty.

Hussein is playing HARDBALL to guarantee that the far-left controls our government for a long, long, long time.

23 posted on 02/08/2009 3:49:56 PM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
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24 posted on 02/08/2009 3:50:25 PM PST by CajunConservative (F U 0bama)
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To: SteamShovel
What next?

I answered that twice. The Palestinian relocation program....and the coming amnesty.

25 posted on 02/08/2009 3:51:58 PM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They can be outraged all they want. They haven’t done a thing to prevent it. They are just handing over everything lock, stock and barrel.


26 posted on 02/08/2009 3:54:54 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Closer.. closer..

27 posted on 02/08/2009 3:56:58 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: stockstrader

That’s right. EVERYTHING the rats do is to consolidate their power.

Talk radio is a goner.


28 posted on 02/08/2009 3:57:45 PM PST by Jacquerie (More central planning is not the solution to the failure of central planning.)
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To: stockstrader
The Palestinian relocation program....and the coming amnesty.

I think we are living though a time the Framers of the Constitution NEVER imagined.....

A corrupt political philosophy infecting a party that has wrested control of ALL THREE Federal branches of government. Once in power, they do things like manipulate the Census, give illegal aliens amnesty and the right to vote (for the offending political power of course), and invite terrorists as citizens.

Even IF the Second Amendment lives through this, I seriously doubt it would be enough to defend Liberty.

29 posted on 02/08/2009 3:59:21 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: randomhero97
"Count me as one who doesn't"

No one is counting me for any reason. And, IMO, any citizen who cooperates with the census is no patriot.


30 posted on 02/08/2009 3:59:44 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: exist

You don’t have to take it.

For me, once they start enforcing things like gun control, I will protect my private property. People will hear about the things we do, and they will join up.

But of course, there is the chance that Obama becomes a pro-individual rights type.


31 posted on 02/08/2009 4:02:13 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: SteamShovel
You seem to have forgotten one other important fact.

The fact that the MSM provides 'badly-needed political cover',,,,

while shilling and cheering the far-left on!!!!

32 posted on 02/08/2009 4:02:14 PM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: Jacquerie; neverdem; MHGinTN; patton

This (the census changes) WILL now include “extrapolated citizens” - “people we “know” are there (in these minority groups) but who we couldn’t count - so we will arbitrarily “add” a few thousand (democratic voters} to many congressional districts across the US.


33 posted on 02/08/2009 4:02:38 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The difference between Ann Frank & her family and us is that we are well-armed."

They'll still come for us one at a time and in the dead of night.

34 posted on 02/08/2009 4:02:38 PM PST by blam
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To: SteamShovel
"When will our gloves come off"

When will yours?


35 posted on 02/08/2009 4:02:40 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Jacquerie
Talk radio is a goner.

As will be forums like FreeRepublic and satellite talk radio.

It looks like we would have to revert to offshore shortwave radio transmissions. The RATS would probably jam the transmissions.

36 posted on 02/08/2009 4:02:54 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: skeeter

My husband has said from the start that are legitimate elections were of the past. Obama, Acorn and the Democrats are in control and will dictate from now on. We are doomed!


37 posted on 02/08/2009 4:03:30 PM PST by classified
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To: I see my hands

Maybe this is the first job for the proposed zero youth brigade. That’s fine, I’ll quickly show these little f**kers off my property.


38 posted on 02/08/2009 4:04:23 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: blam
They'll still come for us one at a time and in the dead of night.

No knock warrants will be issued like hot cakes.
39 posted on 02/08/2009 4:06:42 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Engineer the districts so the Dem’s can win forever.

From Wiki:

Gerrymandering is a form of redistribution in which electoral district or constituency boundaries are used for the electoral advantage.

The term gerrymandering is derived from Elbridge Gerry (1744–1814), the governor of Massachusetts from 1810 to 1812. The term first appeared in the Boston Gazette on March 26, 1812 (see image).

In 1812, Governor Gerry signed a bill into law that redistricted his state to benefit his Democratic-Republican party.


40 posted on 02/08/2009 4:08:03 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never fear ... we have that tired moron McLame on the rescue.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hEx3tiPJhZQLVqjNmHR_oP6FZMuwD967MI300

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a vocal critic of the stimulus bill, complained that Republicans won’t be involved in the final negotiations. “That’s the way the Bush administration, when we Republicans were in charge — that’s the way we did business,” he said. “But I thought we were going to have change.”


41 posted on 02/08/2009 4:10:03 PM PST by maggief
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To: randomhero97

If they think they want a War, Bring it ON.

The first move at a gun grab and it will pop.


42 posted on 02/08/2009 4:11:31 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Senator Gregg should back out of his acceptance of Commerce Sec. He has a legitimate reason: The job he was first offered is not the job he will get. He was offered a job in the department that oversees the Census. If nothing else, his refusal would call attention to Obama’s trickery. Of course, the MSM would probably try to frame it differently, but at least Fox and Drudge would get it right.


43 posted on 02/08/2009 4:12:10 PM PST by giotto
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To: blam

Do you realize how many millions of police and troops it would take to do what you stated? There are over 300 million people in the United States.


44 posted on 02/08/2009 4:14:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering." Barry Goldwater)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, Gregg! Feel like a COMPLETE a$$hole yet?


45 posted on 02/08/2009 4:15:10 PM PST by pabianice
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To: skeeter
The democrats are definitely out of control, and I no longer think power can be pried from their grasp using conventional means.

There are conventional, even traditional, means available. *\;-)

Probably doesn't matter, as the majority of Americans seem content with these despots in charge.

But I think you're correct.

46 posted on 02/08/2009 4:20:28 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5(SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|TaglineSpaceForRent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe we only have around 2 million troops available and a lot of those would simply refuse.


47 posted on 02/08/2009 4:23:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: exist
Concentration camps coming shortly. For Freepers not terrorists. Hope you all have attics to hide in.

Remember that Dachau began as a prison for the political enemies.

But this time will be different. My bet is they'll start with registered sex offenders: the ones who served their sentences and were released. And nobody will say anything because they're not registered sex offenders. Many FReepers will even cheer. At least until their turn comes.

48 posted on 02/08/2009 4:26:54 PM PST by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: SteamShovel
When will our gloves come off?

When it's too late.

49 posted on 02/08/2009 4:28:48 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5(SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|TaglineSpaceForRent)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is officially over we conservatives have lost America; sad fact, oh well it was fun while it lasted....


50 posted on 02/08/2009 4:35:31 PM PST by yield 2 the right
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