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Merciless robots will fight future wars, researcher Peter Singer says
news ^ | February 05, 2009 | From correspondents in Los Angeles

Posted on 02/05/2009 4:30:11 PM PST by Flavius

ROBOTS will be armies of the future in a case of science fact catching up to fiction, a researcher said today. Peter Singer, who has authored books on the military, warned that while using robots for battle saves the lives of military personnel, the move has the potential to exacerbate warfare by having heartless machines do the dirty work.

"We are at a point of revolution in war, like the invention of the atomic bomb," Mr Singer said.

"What does it mean to go to war with US soldiers whose hardware is made in China and whose software is made in India?"

Mr Singer predicts that US military units will be half machine, half human by 2015.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: petersinger; robots; usmilitary
no more 2nd after that, cant store T2000 at home or can you.

nice thing about it you dont have to wait 17 years for another batch

1 posted on 02/05/2009 4:30:12 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Here’s why the right to bear arms includes heavier ordiance than just pistols, shotguns and rifles.


2 posted on 02/05/2009 4:32:59 PM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: Flavius
Merciless robots will fight future wars

I, for one, welcome our merciless robot overlords.

3 posted on 02/05/2009 4:34:04 PM PST by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Flavius; All
"Merciless robots will fight future wars, researcher Peter Singer says"


4 posted on 02/05/2009 4:34:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BenLurkin

Oh, Peter Singer could be handled with an average garage or kitchen utensil. Hypothetically, of course ...

I wonder if he thinks he’s had an original idea; maybe he doesn’t read any fiction books or go to movies.


5 posted on 02/05/2009 4:35:13 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Global leadership means never having to say you're sorry." ~IBD)
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To: BenLurkin

Thats hate-speach and your children will report you to all knowing and all seeing collective


6 posted on 02/05/2009 4:35:33 PM PST by Flavius
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To: BenLurkin; CodeToad

Killer robots could be a reality tomorrow, literally tomorrow, just by modifying some lines of code on our Predators and other armed UAVs.

Just order them to find humans outside after curfew, in a denied area. They can do that today. You would not need a person to make the decision to drop the missile.


7 posted on 02/05/2009 4:35:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Flavius

8 posted on 02/05/2009 4:36:55 PM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: Flavius

Is this the guy that was controversial by promoting infanticide? Or was that Eric Singer? Maybe he was a drummer for Kiss.


9 posted on 02/05/2009 4:37:27 PM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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To: Flavius
I'm on whatever side has Soundwave.

Besides, all Autobots are pansy Obama supporters!
10 posted on 02/05/2009 4:38:04 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Flavius

In the near term we will see battle machines that are controlled by remote human operators.

Just think of the predator drone taken several generations into the future...on land, sea and air.

Operators could be in their own home in the US and also stalking the battlefields half a world away.

Probably a type of immersive virtual reality interface.

People from their teens to 80+ will be sought to control the things... a great way to spend those retirement years for old soldiers.

Sometimes I hate to see the future come :-(


11 posted on 02/05/2009 4:38:32 PM PST by Bobalu (McCain has been proven to be the rino flop I always thought he was.)
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To: Flavius
Isn't this the guy who thinks parents should have the right to kill their kids up until the age of three or something?

Hard to make a robot more "merciless" than this psycho.

12 posted on 02/05/2009 4:38:44 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: MichiganConservative; Flavius

Yup. Singer favors infanticide and bestiality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer


13 posted on 02/05/2009 4:41:59 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: Flavius

“...exacerbate warfare by having heartless machines do the dirty work”

I have no problem with us using heartless machines to fight their heartless terrorist machines.


14 posted on 02/05/2009 4:43:59 PM PST by ryan71 (TERM LIMITS!!!!)
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To: Flavius
"'What does it mean to go to war with US soldiers whose hardware is made in China and whose software is made in India?'"

...globalist wishful thinking for countering the starvation riots of yesterday, not to mention the assumption that international coziness will continue.


15 posted on 02/05/2009 4:45:02 PM PST by familyop (Arrrrrrrrrrrr!)
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To: dynachrome
Singer remarks that human development is a gradual process, that it is nearly impossible to mark a particular moment in time as the moment at which human life begins.

One has to be highly educated to be that dumb.

16 posted on 02/05/2009 4:45:49 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Travis McGee

Below are the rules that will govern robots. Per Isaac Asimov.

A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

A robot must obey orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such

protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law


17 posted on 02/05/2009 4:50:03 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marsoc Dad)
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To: Recon Dad
Below are the rules that will govern robots. Per Isaac Asimov.

Sez you, Asimov? Do you think the Nazis would program hunter killer drones to follow his "rules for robots?" Hell no. And neither will the Chinese, Russians, etc.

18 posted on 02/05/2009 4:54:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Recon Dad

I misstyped the first words, I meant to say, “Sez WHO, Asimov?”


19 posted on 02/05/2009 4:55:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Flavius

Battlebots!


20 posted on 02/05/2009 4:56:41 PM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Flavius

Yea but in the end it will be fist to fist, man vs man.


21 posted on 02/05/2009 4:59:08 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Flavius

And they will even run for governor of California.


22 posted on 02/05/2009 5:03:46 PM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: Travis McGee

The future of war is with the ability to “get” the operators.


23 posted on 02/05/2009 5:04:27 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Flavius

24 posted on 02/05/2009 5:05:10 PM PST by mowowie
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To: papertyger

Not very easy if they’re on the other side of the planet, from where you are hiding in caves, afraid to peek outside, or even turn on any electronic device.


25 posted on 02/05/2009 5:05:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mowowie

Ronny Cox has to be the best corporate A-Hole Hollywood ever created.


26 posted on 02/05/2009 5:14:12 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Bender2

What side you on?

;)


27 posted on 02/05/2009 5:14:17 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: Travis McGee
Not very easy if they’re on the other side of the planet, from where you are hiding in caves, afraid to peek outside, or even turn on any electronic device.

Precisely my point. "You" will have already lost if that is your position.

The "decapitation" attack, albeit with a few new twists, will be the only one worth mounting.

28 posted on 02/05/2009 5:14:39 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Flavius
Omega Doom - Rutger Hauer

29 posted on 02/05/2009 5:25:58 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Flavius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdK2y3lphmE&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmHkj6nD-DU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiJzJ771vDw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0_mLumx-6Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ4J69EEpu4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmVaLp8icoU&feature=related


30 posted on 02/05/2009 5:31:57 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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To: Recon Dad

You forgot the zeroth law.


31 posted on 02/05/2009 5:38:23 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Travis McGee

“Killer robots could be a reality tomorrow, literally tomorrow,”

If not already: Reaper, plus a few not in the public domain.

Attacking the ground stations isn’t an option, either, as they are mobile now.


32 posted on 02/05/2009 6:20:54 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: Bobalu

I doubt older folks will have the lower reaction time, blazing fast reflexes and great hand to eye coordination required for remote operations. Therefore I wouldn’t worry about anyone over 40 being called on for them.


33 posted on 02/05/2009 6:29:28 PM PST by acliffhang3r
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To: Flavius; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Never send a boy to do... a bot's job!
34 posted on 02/05/2009 7:00:45 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Troll_House_Cookies
Troll, you can keep that itchy coat... but give my dead-gum id back!
35 posted on 02/05/2009 7:09:26 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: dynachrome
See... my #34 post!
36 posted on 02/05/2009 7:10:48 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Flavius
DIE YOU MANGIE HUMANS!!!!


37 posted on 02/05/2009 7:26:17 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: martin_fierro; dighton; Tijeras_Slim

I, for one, welcome our new merciless robot overlords.


38 posted on 02/05/2009 7:31:01 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Recon Dad

The REAL Laws of Robots

1. A robot will not harm authorized Government personnel but will terminate intruders with extreme prejudice.
2. A robot will obey the orders of authorized personnel except where such orders conflict with the Third Law.
3. A robot will guard its own existence with lethal antipersonnel weaponry, because a robot is bloody expensive.


39 posted on 02/05/2009 7:37:47 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Faith Manages.)
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To: Flavius

Yah, and once it was thought that the crossbow would make war unwinnable and therefore impossible to wage. Oh well.

Me... I’ll still keep my longsword handy, right alongside my modern weapons. It has the advantage of never needing to be reloaded. :-)


40 posted on 02/05/2009 7:38:02 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Actually crossbow was first weapon to be banned because it disturbed the social order per church.

It allowed a peasant to take down an noblemen in suite of armor.


41 posted on 02/05/2009 7:54:55 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Petronski; dighton; Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day; Slings and Arrows

I got crazy lucky with this getup.

42 posted on 02/05/2009 9:17:43 PM PST by martin_fierro (I --- AM --- MARTYTRON --- 5000)
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To: Petronski

As long as they don’t interfere with the production of cheap California wine.


43 posted on 02/06/2009 5:10:20 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Global leadership means never having to say you're sorry." ~IBD)
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To: Bender2

Merciless robots as opposed to merciful robots?

Old curmudgeons need to know...


44 posted on 02/06/2009 11:38:52 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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