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Democrats kill McCain's alternative stimulus plan
AP ^ | 2009-02-05

Posted on 02/05/2009 3:18:31 PM PST by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate has killed an alternative economic stimulus plan by Sen. John McCain that would have cut income and payroll taxes but spent far less than President Obama's plan.

The party-line 57-40 vote against McCain's $421 billion plan came Thursday as a group of moderate Democrats and Republicans struggled to cut up to $100 billion from Obama's version.

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Perhaps now McCain will finally realize that the Democrats are NOT his "friends."
1 posted on 02/05/2009 3:18:32 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: MaggieCarta; indylindy; roamer_1; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; Sybeck1; ...

McCain's Rat "friends" have turned on him.

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2 posted on 02/05/2009 3:19:13 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: DoughtyOne; TADSLOS; cripplecreek; sickoflibs

Maybe McCain will finally see the light...or maybe not. Only time will tell.


3 posted on 02/05/2009 3:19:47 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

Jet Jock John had better dig his heals in and fight hard to defeat this pig trough faux stimulus garbage bill. His buddies on the democrat side really crossed the ailse for him didn’t they.


4 posted on 02/05/2009 3:20:33 PM PST by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: rabscuttle385

The Commie ‘RATS have a lot of paybacks they need to dish out to the maggots who gave them total control of the government back in November. Especially the worthless, greedy scumbags in the “environmental movement.”


5 posted on 02/05/2009 3:21:34 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ( Elections have consequences.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Here’s McCain site to vote NO on the stimulus plan as it is now.

http://www.countryfirstpac.com/petition/economic.aspx


6 posted on 02/05/2009 3:21:46 PM PST by psjones (u)
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To: rabscuttle385

If the “Moderate” Republicans and Democrats cut 100 Billion from this pork-bloated monster of a bill, it will still be over $850 Billion in useless spending and will be just as destructive to the economy. The only principled position is to vote NO to the whole bloody mess.

The economy self-corrects. We should not let the ‘Rats use economic hard times to justify the passage of their usual tax-and-spend fantasies.


7 posted on 02/05/2009 3:22:10 PM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hey, Juan! All your buddies across the aisle that you keep reaching out to them... they just biotch-slapped you to the tune of 57-0. CAN YOU HEAR THEM NOW?


8 posted on 02/05/2009 3:22:12 PM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: rabscuttle385

Of course they would kill it — there isn’t enough pork, wasted spending, and payback in it. The Democrats could give a rip less about the taxpayer as long as they can buy votes with some giveaway program.


9 posted on 02/05/2009 3:22:26 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: rabscuttle385

You know all Republicans need to oppose this crapola when friggin’ McCain’s amendment is defeated by the Dems.


10 posted on 02/05/2009 3:23:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Libertarian and Constitution Parties should merge into one)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think it’s kinda ironic how now McCain is so angry about this stimulus bill but had NO issue suspending his campaign to go to Washington and vote YES on a bailout NO ONE wanted. Where was the outrage then McCain


11 posted on 02/05/2009 3:23:27 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: rabscuttle385

If Obama wants his stimulus, he should ram it through with Democratic votes. Other than voting no when the time comes, the Republicans need to stay on the sidelines.


12 posted on 02/05/2009 3:23:50 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: rabscuttle385

They need to cut waaaay more than 1 Billion from this monstrosity.......


13 posted on 02/05/2009 3:24:25 PM PST by MamaLucci (Let's ALL "forget" to pay our taxes.....hey, Nobody's perfect....)
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To: rabscuttle385

It will be interesting to see what McCain does next.


14 posted on 02/05/2009 3:24:27 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: rabscuttle385

hey McWuss ask your rats friends where they lost 78 billion dollars when they through out the first 350 billion


15 posted on 02/05/2009 3:25:11 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Captain Kirk

If Obama wants his stimulus, he should ram it through with Democratic votes. Other than voting no when the time comes, the Republicans need to stay on the sidelines.

He NEEDS Republicans to vote for this right along with the Dems, that way when this pork package FAILS and fails miserably, he can say “Well, Republicans wanted it too”


16 posted on 02/05/2009 3:25:46 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I think it’s kinda ironic how now McCain is so angry about this stimulus bill but had NO issue suspending his campaign to go to Washington and vote YES on a bailout NO ONE wanted. Where was the outrage then McCain

EXACTLY!!

He should have have taken a vocal stand against that outrage. After all, we all see how well that one worked. /s

We'll see if he ends up voting for this next OUTRAGE....

of course, at this point, it will do no good anyway.

17 posted on 02/05/2009 3:26:38 PM PST by stockstrader (Joe Biden is now officially our first "CLASS WARFARE CZAR".)
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To: MamaLucci

“They need to cut waaaay more than 1 Billion from this monstrosity.”

Even if they cut it 100 billion at this point they aren’t even back down the what the original amount was!


18 posted on 02/05/2009 3:30:28 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: gridlock
The economy self-corrects.

The necessary self-correction is painful, and pain in the populace doesn't get Obama re-elected. We want to have our party, but don't want to have to deal with the hangover.

19 posted on 02/05/2009 3:33:03 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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20 posted on 02/05/2009 3:34:20 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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21 posted on 02/05/2009 3:34:37 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: shankbear

I don’t trust Comrade Juan McNuts on very much, but he does appear to be an occasional Fiscal Conservative.


22 posted on 02/05/2009 3:34:47 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (This isn’t an administration. It’s a sitcom.)
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To: stockstrader

He wants to show that he is now for the people. He realized he messed up big time voting for a bailout no one wanted(gee someone working for his campaign must not have informed him about the polls that showed that NO ONE WANTED IT) and maybe he knows his popularity in Arizona is going downhill and is afraid he might lose his Senate seat in 2010


23 posted on 02/05/2009 3:36:05 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: rabscuttle385
A new plan is coming....FR Thread:

Treasury to unveil new bank rescue plan Monday

24 posted on 02/05/2009 3:37:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Any republican voting for the bill should be blackballed by the RNC.

Which reminds me where is our new leader Steele?


25 posted on 02/05/2009 3:40:02 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to preserve liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-0)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
He wants to show that he is now for the people. He realized he messed up big time voting for a bailout no one wanted(gee someone working for his campaign must not have informed him about the polls that showed that NO ONE WANTED IT) and maybe he knows his popularity in Arizona is going downhill and is afraid he might lose his Senate seat in 2010

I think you nailed it.

26 posted on 02/05/2009 3:43:59 PM PST by Swing_Thought (BHO: new lead engineer of the one party US socialism express)
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To: rabscuttle385; All

Who among you could doubt Senator McCain’s intentions?


27 posted on 02/05/2009 3:44:43 PM PST by Cedric
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Exactly.......but leave it to RINO’S in the senate to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. We all need to call/fax the senate. Not ONE GOP Senator should vote for this liberal wet dream of a bill. Let the commie left OWN it.


28 posted on 02/05/2009 3:48:53 PM PST by MamaLucci (Let's ALL "forget" to pay our taxes.....hey, Nobody's perfect....)
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To: rabscuttle385

What irony, McRINO thrown under his own bus, the ‘Straight Talk Express’ by his faux friends, fellow Senate ‘Rats.

Back it up ‘Rats, put another set of tread marks on that POS!


29 posted on 02/05/2009 3:49:35 PM PST by mkjessup (You are either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE dammit!)
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To: rabscuttle385
He won't. There is no bipartisanship and any GOP Senator who votes for the porkulus bill deserves to be shown the door next year!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

30 posted on 02/05/2009 3:50:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385
Perhaps now McCain will finally realize that the Democrats are NOT his "friends."

Never. The man is an idiot.

31 posted on 02/05/2009 3:51:55 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: rabscuttle385
"Democrats kill McCain's alternative stimulus plan"

Hey McCain: Here is a little help for all of the promised wonderful new-tone bi-partisan Dem support:


32 posted on 02/05/2009 3:56:51 PM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: rabscuttle385

Can modifications be made in the House to the stimuless bill?


33 posted on 02/05/2009 3:58:20 PM PST by Fred (Judd Gregg is a Tool of high Tech Lobbies)
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The party-line 57-40 vote against McCain's $421 billion plan came Thursday...

Talk about getting owned.

Karma's a real bitch, ain't it, McQueeg?

34 posted on 02/05/2009 4:00:04 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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What this is, is a piece of theater.
McCain knew this bill was going nowhere.


35 posted on 02/05/2009 4:05:31 PM PST by MetaThought
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I really wish people would stop attacking McCain & Lindsey Graham.

They’re finally doing the right thing, and you guys are still attacking them.


36 posted on 02/05/2009 4:06:37 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: rabscuttle385

37 posted on 02/05/2009 4:14:19 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"If Obama wants his stimulus, he should ram it through with Democratic votes."

Prediction? That will be exactly what will happen after another week of branding Republicans as obstructionists. Dems will say it will be fixed in conference.

The Senate bill is larger, in dollars, than the House bill. In conference, $X billion will be trimmed, Dems will claim they cut fat, and the House total $ will be passed.

Just a thought.

yitbos

38 posted on 02/05/2009 4:18:11 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: bamahead; rabscuttle385

One “Stimulus Plan” Down, one to go!


39 posted on 02/05/2009 4:18:30 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: rabscuttle385
“Maybe McCain will finally see the light...or maybe not. Only time will tell.”

I think maybe not. Speaking of time; wonder when McStupid’s senate term will be up? Any Arizona folks out there? Also, please when his term is up, pleeeeeease elect a “real Republican” the next go round.

40 posted on 02/05/2009 4:22:30 PM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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I really wish people would stop attacking McCain & Lindsey Graham. They’re finally doing the right thing, and you guys are still attacking them.

The right thing? The RIGHT Thing? The trillion dollar Porkulus needs to be reduced by trillion and a half before it even starts to approach the "right thing".

$100B one way or the other is chump change. All this imaginary money coming off the printing presses will do is further endanger us, drive us further in debt, and further guarantee runaway inflation sometime in the near future.

The "right thing", my a$$.

41 posted on 02/05/2009 4:23:15 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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$421 BILLION isn’t enough! Maybe the gang of 14 will vote no this time around.


42 posted on 02/05/2009 4:29:01 PM PST by Libloather (February is Liberal, Leftist, Marxist Awareness Month.)
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To: rabscuttle385
... as a group of moderate Democrats and Republicans struggled to cut up to $100 billion from Obama's version.

A HUNDRED BILLION??? OUT OF OVER NINE HUNDRED BILLION???

What the hell is the point of that? If you won't stand for $900 billion worth of bad ideas, why in heaven's name would anybody support $800 billion worth of bad ideas?

43 posted on 02/05/2009 4:33:21 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Fred

No, It has already passed the house, where not one republican voted for it, and even a handful of rats voted against it


44 posted on 02/05/2009 4:36:18 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain is good at getting shot down.


45 posted on 02/05/2009 4:37:14 PM PST by GBA
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To: roamer_1

Gotta fight it one issue at a time.

Pick and attack the worst. Lather, rinse, repeat.


46 posted on 02/05/2009 4:40:36 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain augers in another one ...

If he had opposed the bailout back in October, he would have won the election. But he's a dope.

47 posted on 02/05/2009 4:44:32 PM PST by Grim
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To: rabscuttle385

Act II, Scene III. This is all leading into a Sunday talking head show finale and watching the usual suspects slap each other on the back for their bi-partisanship heroics.


48 posted on 02/05/2009 4:50:33 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: MetaThought
Gotta fight it one issue at a time.

No. Tell the people the TRUTH. Then step back and let the Democrats own it if they will (which they won't). This sort of half-a$$ed compromising is precisely what lends cover to those who would cave in for "pragmatism" and "bipartisanship", when in reality, it is the death knell of our Republic.

McCain's position on the bailout did exactly the same thing- offering cover for those who would cave, instead of standing with the House Republicans, who_were_right.

What purpose is there for the "opposition" if it is not to oppose the tyranny of the ruling party, especially when it is so blatantly wrong in it's direction?

49 posted on 02/05/2009 5:01:03 PM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: rabscuttle385

His amendment needs to cut up to 1 trillion from the porkulus bill.


50 posted on 02/05/2009 5:06:04 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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