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Brady Campaign State Scorecards ranks Oklahoma in bottom
kswo ^ | 02/04/09 | kswo

Posted on 02/04/2009 6:32:26 PM PST by TornadoAlley3

Lawton Oklahoma's gun laws are the weakest in the nation according to the James Brady Campaign that led the way to sweeping gun law reform in the 1990s. It says Oklahoma's weak gun laws are helping to feed the illegal gun market. Out of 100 possible points, the group gave the state a mere two points. The foundation focused on areas such as the state's background check system, child-safety regulations, and efforts to curb firearm trafficking - Oklahoma was given a zero in each of those areas.

The Brady Campaign always has pushed for tough gun regulations, but former Chief of Police and current Cameron University Criminal Justice Professor Danny Ford says he believes that tougher laws would likely have very little effect on crime. From the streets as police officer to the classroom as a professor, Danny Ford has studied gun crimes and firearm regulations for years. "You usually affect the law abiding citizen (with stricter regulations), and you don't affect the person who's going to have the gun anyway for purposes it was never intended for," he said. "The criminals will have the weapons no matter what kind of law - a lot of times - you make."

The Brady Campaign wants Oklahoma - and other states - to do more, such as requiring permits to purchase guns, and making every gun sold in the state childproof. Ford says the survey focused on some items previously under the ban on assault weapons that expired under President Bush. "It only takes one bullet to take a person out, so just because you limit the number of rounds doesn't mean the person is not going to use that weapon," he said.

He does say he would like to see Oklahoma and the survey improve upon gun education, which Ford says he believes would save more lives than laws would. "Informing people how to keep the weapons safe, how go ahead and possess the weapon and still keep it safe, and at the same time not limit their rights to keep and bear that arm," he said.

California fared best in the survey, and got 79 out of a possible 100 points. Ford says California's grade underscores his point since gun crimes certainly are a problem in California. Oklahoma got its only two points in the guns in public category which includes colleges allowing guns on campus. Last year, state lawmakers shot down a bill that would have allowed possession of a firearm on campus.

Texas scored nine points and you can see the full report at http://www.stategunlaws.org/.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; brady; gun; oklahoma
nice to be at the bottom:)
1 posted on 02/04/2009 6:32:27 PM PST by TornadoAlley3
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http://www.stategunlaws.org/xshare/pdf/scorecard/2008/2008_scorecard_rankings.pdf


2 posted on 02/04/2009 6:33:16 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; PhiKapMom

Congrats!


3 posted on 02/04/2009 6:33:44 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Play the new "rehab" card: apologize for cheating on your taxes)
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To: TornadoAlley3

What’s the crime rate in Oklahoma?


4 posted on 02/04/2009 6:34:14 PM PST by popdonnelly (The problem with Obama is that he believes his own hype.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Kudos Oklahoma!


5 posted on 02/04/2009 6:34:21 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: TornadoAlley3

Woo-Hoo OK!!! If those scummy Brady bass-turds have a problem with you, then you’re doing something right!


6 posted on 02/04/2009 6:35:20 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Hey Al Gore! Get your fat carcass over here and shovel all this global warming off my driveway!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

We believe in the 2nd Amendment here, not just lip service.


7 posted on 02/04/2009 6:35:55 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

OMG, let’s see....Oklahoma scores “low” and doesn’t have a gun problem....CA scores “high” and does have a gun problem. So...it’s not that their thinking is cranially-rectally inverted, it’s that those high-scoring states have an invented problem for not conforming with the goofball thinking. Does that capture the “feeeeeeling”?

There is one bright spot: If this country can take 4 years of this kind of mind-numbing idiocy, we’ll be masters of the solar system.


8 posted on 02/04/2009 6:36:56 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: OKSooner

Ping.


9 posted on 02/04/2009 6:37:47 PM PST by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Wear that like a badge of honor, Okies! Hang tough!


10 posted on 02/04/2009 6:37:49 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: TornadoAlley3

It would really be telling the if the Brady people included each state’s violent crime rate alongside its respective gun law score.


11 posted on 02/04/2009 6:37:49 PM PST by Huntress (Proud owner of Norman/Norma, the transsexual attack cat.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Writing a story on it is like advertising to out-of-state criminals to come shopping. Libs are real smart!


12 posted on 02/04/2009 6:38:30 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I want a re-count :’)


13 posted on 02/04/2009 6:39:08 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: TornadoAlley3

I want a re-count :’)


14 posted on 02/04/2009 6:39:25 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: TornadoAlley3
Ya know, there are some things about the Sooner State that leave a bit to be desired. We miss out on some of what is available in Dallas or Kansas City. We don't have the majestic mountains of some of the western states. Severe weather can be frightening for those not interested in the phenomenon. Summer and winter weather extremes can be uncomfortable to some. Still, to make the bottom of *this* list is something to be damn proud of!

I'm proud to be a Sooner!

15 posted on 02/04/2009 6:39:57 PM PST by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I always liked Kentucky. Now I have another reason to like it! Oklahoma, too!

JoMa


16 posted on 02/04/2009 6:42:01 PM PST by joma89
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To: TornadoAlley3

I was about to say... being told you are at the bottom of the Brady Campaign’s scorecard is an honor!!! The founding fathers would be proud!


17 posted on 02/04/2009 6:48:43 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Okla. is a great gun state. I have driven 4 or 5 times from horrible Illinois to attend that kick-azz super duper humongous gun show in Tulsa. Thank god for Oklahoma.
18 posted on 02/04/2009 6:49:09 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Whooo-hoo! The Last Frontier got a 4! The lower the score, the better! Long live the Constitution - and the Bill of Rights!
19 posted on 02/04/2009 6:49:37 PM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: TornadoAlley3

What the Brady Campaign fails to recognize is that the NRA has a very strong presence in Oklahoma, complete with excellent gun safety training not only for youth and new gun owners, but also for longtime gun owners who want to brush up on safety skills. The Brady Campaign regards the NRA with contempt and views anything but its own training programs as insufficient.

As for childproofing guns, every gun shop and every gun show I have attended displays, sells and educates gun shoppers on the importance of using childproof devices on all guns in homes where children are or might be present. This is done on a voluntary, educational basis—not as a mandated gun law that is little more than a sneaky method to register and control gun ownership.

I couldn’t be prouder to read that my state is at the very bottom of the Brady Campaign’s scorecard.


20 posted on 02/04/2009 6:51:51 PM PST by OkeyDokeyOkie
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To: ArmyTeach

Someone like to do some homework? Is there a correlation? My guess is, the higher the Brady score, the higher the state crime rate. Anyone with me on that?


21 posted on 02/04/2009 6:54:14 PM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: TornadoAlley3

And every one of your counties voted for Palin over the Messiah in November. I’m thinking you live in paradise!


22 posted on 02/04/2009 6:54:21 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Idaho still looks OK with a tie at 36. Lower would be better. There's room to improve.
23 posted on 02/04/2009 6:55:27 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: TornadoAlley3
I have long used the Brady scorecards to accurately gauge gun rights.... I simply invert their grading scale, and voila!
24 posted on 02/04/2009 6:56:17 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: TornadoAlley3
nice to be at the bottom. :)

Kentucky, Is third from the bottom...(two above OK.)

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“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P.J.O’Rourke

25 posted on 02/04/2009 7:00:31 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Good news. And the Schumacher gun/knife show in Tulsa draws dealers from around the country. I bet that chaps the Brady Bunch too.


26 posted on 02/04/2009 7:02:14 PM PST by Mr Ducklips
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To: TornadoAlley3

Time to move to Oklahoma.


27 posted on 02/04/2009 7:09:36 PM PST by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Well, cr^p!. Idaho scored 6 points. How did we get that many? What do we need to do to shed some of those points?

I guess it is going to take some deep soul searching if Idaho intends to solve this problem.:(

28 posted on 02/04/2009 7:11:05 PM PST by D Rider
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To: TornadoAlley3

I can show you my Oklahoma CCW permit. :)

And yes I do carry my gun with me.


29 posted on 02/04/2009 7:17:48 PM PST by amigatec (The only change you will see in the next four years will be what's in your pocket.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I simply invert their grading scale, and voila!

Kind of like golf!

In fact, I've been known to refer to target shooting as "nitrocellulose golf".

30 posted on 02/04/2009 7:33:03 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

OK isn’t a source of so called illegal weapons. OK isn’t behind in educating its youth on guns as every Dad who gives his age 16 daughter a purse pistol says to her, “Be careful to aim as you shoot at any guy who tries to rape you.” OK citizens understand the right to bear arms is a sigh of freedom and responsibility.


31 posted on 02/04/2009 8:04:07 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: TornadoAlley3
Wish I could talk my wife into moving to Oklahoma.

Besides being on the right side of the Constitution (especially our 2A rights), I heard that Oklahoma is the ONLY state, this last election, where EVERY SINGLE county voted RED.

No sellouts, RINOs, or FAUX "conservatives" of any number to speak of.

32 posted on 02/04/2009 8:12:05 PM PST by DocH (Keep your powder dry and keep it in the black, fellow freedom-loving Patriots)
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To: TornadoAlley3

"It's the lowest grade of any state. It's the lowest grade in Brady history!"

33 posted on 02/04/2009 8:13:18 PM PST by Ken H
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To: CindyDawg
It's a three-way tie for last (or first, depending on how you look at it) between Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Kentucky!

I guess I'll have to celebrate this by going to the National Gun Day show next month and picking up something new. ;-)

34 posted on 02/04/2009 8:18:41 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (We failed, but in the good providence of God apparent failure often proves a blessing.-Robert E.Lee)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Actually, our score is the same as that of Louisiana and Oklahoma, just they put it in alphabetical order for states with the same score. So we are tied for first!!!


35 posted on 02/04/2009 8:20:55 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (We failed, but in the good providence of God apparent failure often proves a blessing.-Robert E.Lee)
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To: TornadoAlley3; Dallas59
Texas 27

Louisiana 48

36 posted on 02/04/2009 8:35:06 PM PST by BBell
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To: TornadoAlley3
Bobby Jindal has an A+ rating from the NRA.

I'm sure he approves of our tie for last place.

37 posted on 02/04/2009 8:39:34 PM PST by BBell
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To: TornadoAlley3

later


38 posted on 02/04/2009 8:41:25 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Actually, our score is the same as that of Louisiana and Oklahoma, just they put it in alphabetical order for states with the same score. So we are tied for first!!!

....I like, the way your thinkin'

"Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money" Margaret Thatcher
"Troika / Footstool of Liberalism...Corruption, Nationalization & Propaganda" Rush Limbaugh
“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P.J.O’Rourke
"The government's view of the economy can be summed up in a few short phrases:
If it moves, tax it.
If it keeps moving, regulate it.
And if it stops moving, subsidize it."

39 posted on 02/04/2009 8:56:04 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Saaaaa-LUTE!!

40 posted on 02/05/2009 4:51:45 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Honeybunch

Cool.


41 posted on 02/05/2009 5:07:12 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: TornadoAlley3

Congratulations Oklahomans!


42 posted on 02/05/2009 6:11:32 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Guess Texas has some work to do to get a “better” score!


43 posted on 02/05/2009 7:22:59 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ((D) = Taking the Culture of Corruption to lower standards.)
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To: aragorn
"We don't have the majestic mountains of some of the western states."

I spend 20 years in OK, and shot guns the whole time. But I beg to disagree--are indeed majestic mountains in OK--the Wichita Mountains, between Altus and Lawton. I used to climb and hunt in those mountains. Loved it! Go Tipton Tigers!

44 posted on 02/05/2009 8:00:58 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Proud to be an American, where I least I know I'm free!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Bump


45 posted on 02/06/2009 9:30:59 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

OK, I accept your correction. The mountains in southern Oklahoma are indeed majestic, and very old. When I made my statement, I was thinking more of larger, younger mountain chains further west. No offense intended. The Sooner State is really a pretty good place to live, all things considered. I’ve been here for over 40 years.


46 posted on 02/07/2009 4:50:08 AM PST by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times.)
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