Posted on 01/29/2009 7:20:43 AM PST by pillut48
"I won."
When President Barack Obama used those words to reply to Republican objections to the massive spending bill working its way through Congress, he did much more than deliver a good laugh line and declare the GOP proposals irrelevant.
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Hugh Hewitt nails this phony 'unifier' to the wall! What was the phrase they used to insult President Bush with? "All hat, no cattle"--perfect description of HolyO!!
Elections have consequences, and the GOP threw the last two away due to stupidity.
We now get to live with the results for at least four years.
I am really amused by the whining taking place on the Republican side. When the Repubs held the high ground they felt rather full of themselves. Now they are shut out and want to complain about the victors talking some trash.
Not necessarily, some people fight better when their backs are against the wall.
Hmmmmm. I’d say those most given to what you are saying have either retired, or got fired, the past two election cycles.
If you are a House Rep, your back is always against the wall due to the election cycle being every two years.
But I see your point, to a certain extent.
America lost.
I think a lot of the House repubs are actually pretty good. The problem is ACORN will now have unlimited funds and libs keep the same garbage like Pelosi, Waxman and Frank in forever.
Big time!
imho, it was not stupidity. Instead it was deliberate. There was no way John Sidney McCain could win.
They also didn't know they were voting for a "Hussein" kind of guy. ....or a guy who has close associations with terrorists and black nationalists. They were so enamored by his "style" and skin color they didn't want to know anything else.
“We won” Those two words represent an arrogance in the political world, or the White House, I have never before seen.
Those two words will be the rally point of the new conservative. They may have won. But being on the top only leaves them one way to fall. And they are going to be the ultimate losers. Unfortunately a lot of American people are going to lose because of that arrogance.
Obama never had any intention of working across the aisle. He wants the Republicans to capitulate to his whim so he will not be solely responsible when he fails.
Way to Go Republicans!! Gon’t give them effers an inch more.
When Nancy Pelosi and Dems. took over in 2006, the unemployment rate was low, and the only talk of bad economic things on the horizon was from the Republicans trying to get Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, Nancy and crew to look and see that Fannie & Freddie were disasters waiting to happen. To no avail. The truth was that the Democrats were pitching a hissy fit to get rid of “Bush”, and they were willing to crash this economy and ruin this country to do it. - Now that the Obamassiah is calling the shots along with Nancy, Frank and Dodd, oh, things ARE going to get worse before they get better, and IF they get better, it will be in spite of the Democrat’s outrageous spending debacles - not because of them. Of course, they mean well, because it’s their BIRTHRIGHT to rule and tax us to death.
Of course there wasn’t any way McCain could win a national election cycle.
He proved that in the 2000 primaries, and in the 2008 primaries, where he only garnered 37% of Republican votes.
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?" - Jesus Christ
Nam Vet
It is too bad Bush and the GOP did not live by this rule when they had the chance.
What exactly is an appropriate response? "Oh, how wonderful"?
I don't see it as whining. The Republicans have shocked me by taking that silly line personally, and are actually behaving as they should.
As opposed to the dems you seem to think acted appropriately, who, when they were the underdogs, called Republicans Fascists, divisive, war mongers, stupid, etc. So I don't see their behavior as somehow more honorable than the Republicans', which is to respond to trash talk by finding their principles.
I don't see that as whining but as an appropriate response to the president's childishness.
“Elections have consequences, and the GOP threw the last two away due to stupidity. We now get to live with the results for at least four years.”
‘When President Barack Obama used those words to reply to Republican objections to the massive spending bill working its way through Congress, he did much more than deliver a good laugh line and declare the GOP proposals irrelevant.’
Yep, the insane ones, who post here and claim to be conservatives, but want to lose elections to the rats to teach us a lesson have a lot to be happy about as our nation teters on the edge of the abyss. The downfall started with the first “lesson” giving control of congress to Pelosi Galore and Reid the Red in the 2006 election.
The grim reality is simple. When you lose elections, you have no power and become “Irrelevant! “
Fixed.
I wonder...
Remember Monty Python’s knight whose arms, etc, were cut off? How can the Republicans fight when the Democraps don’t need their votes at all?
“Elections have consequences.” So true, this one more so than any in history, and all of them will be bad unless Republicans figure out how to get their act together and win the next two.
Until the Republicans voted in unison against the faux stimulus package, I would agree completely.
Now...I’m going to take a ‘watch and see’ attitude.
I think it behooves us to pay attention and point out that Obama says one thing (bipartisanship—a new sort of politics) and does something entirely different (I won). Your mileage may vary but the word needs to be out there. You don’t expect the MSM to say anything do you?
Agreed. Total stupidity in the last 4 years.
Indeed - they spent like sailors on leave during the Bush tenure and now whine about the fiscal irresponsibility of the bailout(s). They used the whole Bush presidency to lob money at well-lobbied companies. And we still have this recession. Does anyone finally get that federal spending of money it does not have is counter-productive???
I would hope the lesson has been learned but am afriad it has not been. I base this on the silence here on FR about creative ways to revive industry in the USA. You can't have money unless you create goods or services of real value. And yet, where is the Pubbie that has proposed getting government off the backs of people who want to create jobs, refine oil, refine coal, etc?
If they use it properly, they still have the ability to reach voters. They need to POUND on every mistake that makes things worse. I hardly expect them to do this, but they should. And they should never let the Dems and Obama use them for cover, as he’s trying to do on this stimulus bill. Of course, it’s an uphill battle, but they need to fight it.
Right again. They will control the votes through funded fraud and we will be paying endlessly for their stimulation.
It's our duty to conduct a scorched earth policy against these liberal Fascists, similar to that conducted by the Soviets in their retreat before the invading German armies in 1941.
The Leftists have swiftly become as arrogant as those Germans were all those years ago, and seem to be comporting themselves in much the same manner.
We don't have to cooperate.
Cut your spending to the bone. Every nickel you deny to their "stimulus" is a victory.
If you try to make any money right now, they're just going to steal it to spread around to their non-taxpaying voting base.
This shows that the GOP needs a set. Every one of the people in that room won. Otherwise they wouldn’t be there. Duh!
Extra money= ammo and survival food.
Nothing else for the socialist economy in this house.
The Dems don’t need their votes, but we need to see that they are at least on OUR side. There is a record of those votes and someday it may matter when they come up for reelection.
I really would like to slap that chit eating grin off his face that he always seems to give.
Indeed!
GWB: "I'm a uniter, not a divider!"
BO: "I won!"
ACORN will insure that reparations will be in every stimulus bill they pass every 6 months or so. They just don’t call it that. ACORN is filled with illegal aliens too like their sister griup the SEIU union.
Any house member won their seat as well and is there to represent his district. This pompous ass believes that because he won the presidency that no one has a say in the process. This just goes to show you his arrogance or his ignorance. (I believe the former attribute is a product of the later.)
Also important is to remind the Blue Dogs that they hail from conservative districts (indeed, Queen Nancy had them run as conservatives to get them elected). These districts need to hold the Blue Dogs feet to the fire.
Look at a chart of the S&P 500.
June 2008 - Obama gets the nomination and we start down.
October 2008 - when McCain’s polls numbers are awful BIG down.
Nov 2-4 2008 - a little rally because McCain closed in the polls.
Nov 6 after the election down more.
The market collapsed because the fear Obama is a marxist. People with any money or businesses have ZERO confidence in Obama.
There was a large measure of that, yes.
But examining the history of these things over the last many years on Free Republic, I'm beginning to believe that an Obama or his like was inevitable.
The combination of the illegal donations flowing in the back door to the Obama campaign, and the BILLIONS of dollars in free advertising from the Obama-worshipping media was unstoppable. I know that you're a media watcher also, and I know that I've NEVER seen anything like what went down in the last two months of the election.
On the bright? side, I also think that the September meltdown "got some help", and the "helpers" didn't really understand the full consequences of what they were doing.
The only way we're going to be able to take back the Republic is by denying the liberal Fascists any sort of aid and comfort in their attempts to get the "easy-money consumer economy" back on track.
They thought they could have this little hiccup, scare everybody, and then go back to the good ol' housing bubble, the good ol' credit card bubble, and all the other bubbles.
Us old-fashioned idiots knew all along that they were spending beyond their means, and wondered what wrong with OURSELVES that we couldn't get with the easy-money program.
Well, right now, this is the ONLY time they're going to be vulnerable. If they get their program back on track, you might as well sign your property, paycheck, children and grandchildren over to them. So, it's time to fight.
He won...let them (the dems) run this country into the ground ALONE and BY THEMSELVES and we will be the voice of opposition. What will happen is they will be like Carter all over again. What goes around comes around. Hopefully in four years...we can sweep the whole bunch out and then govern from our principles and NOT ABANDON THEM under scrutiny or fear of being called names.
THEN...hopefully...someone with some stones...will stand up as POTUS and say to the minority leader Nancy P...Hey Nancy...remember what you and BHO said 4 years ago? Well guess what...I won...sit down and shut up.
I doubt it seriously though...'cause we are the stupid party and we...for some reason...remind me of the picked on little kid who wants to be friends with the class bully.
Exactly.
It’ll be interesting to see if the media totally ignores his falling approval ratings. And when people continue to be laid off in the coming months and prices/taxes continue to go up, it will. There is no Hopenchange, America, and 52% of you proved once again that the snake oil salesman is alive and well.
My guess is Obamaphoria will have worn off by June among 60% of the twits that voted for him, when they can no longer ignore the fact that the Emperor has no clothes.
I think you actually do a good job highlighting the essential difference between conservatives on one hand and many contemporary republicans, including RINO's, Compassionate Conservatives, NeoCons, and the reach-across-the-asile kind of pretend republicans on the other hand.
Conservatives generally place principle over winning at any cost, whereas many of today's republicans place winning at any cost before principle.
If your goal is to implement policies consistent with conservative principles nothing is gained if you have to run a liberal as a republican to win.
Yes, we all know the argument that you must be in the game, you must win no matter the cost, or you cannot hope to see your principles transformed into policy.
Te sad truth is that when you win with a liberal gussied up as a RINO or other non-conservative they ignore conservatives until they need their votes again. We just had an eight year lesson in that as we watched a republican president reach across the island to Ted Kennedy more than he did to conservatives.
All conservatives are not at heart rabid republican party loyalists, but most do generally vote republican as the lesser of two evils. But, if there is a viable, more conservative alternative candidate that is where the conservative vote would go.
But republican party loyalists vote for the party's candidates - even the really horrible ones, because they want their party in power.
That is a significant difference and explains why republican party loyalists get so upset with conservatives who do not always blindly support republicans.
Look at the last election - the party faithful would have voted for McCain no matter what, but he would probably received 10 million fewer votes if he had not brought Sarah Palin on board to attract conservatives disgusted with the republican party.
“Look at the last election - the party faithful would have voted for McCain no matter what, but he would probably received 10 million fewer votes if he had not brought Sarah Palin on board to attract conservatives disgusted with the republican party”
EXACTLY!
Count me as one of those who only came on for McCain after he picked Palin. Otherwise I was voting for Bob Barr and the libertarians.
If we want a candidate like a Fred Thompson, or a Duncan Hunter conservative, we have to start getting the money together now for that inevitable battle over who the GOP National committee selects, and who the people want.
And we need to get movements going to change the primary rules in the early states requiring party registration. We have to eliminate the cross over pollution that obviously targets the real conservatives.
We don’t have to work for the GOP National committee, nor send them money. But we sure can send them a lot of free advice.
McCain was my absolute last choice as a nominee. But I donated to his campaign and dragged myself to the polls to vote for him. Why? Because I could see what this Marzist charlatan would do. MY principles tell me to protect the country first of all, and I do not see that having a President Obama is going to do that.
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