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FEDS APOLOGIZE BUT INSIST BIRDS HAD TO BE POISONED
THE STAR-LEDGER (New Jersey) ^ | January 27, 2009 | BRIAN T. MURRAY

Posted on 01/27/2009 7:51:20 AM PST by Marc Tumin

Hundreds of birds that dropped dead on Somerset County cars, porches and snow-covered lawns, alarming residents over the weekend, were all of a rather foul breed of fowl -- the notorious European starling, which the United States Department of Agriculture killed on purpose….

Yesterday, the USDA acknowledged a few mistakes of its own in spreading the word in the area around a Princeton Township farm, where it applied a pesticide Friday to kill 3,000 to 5,000 starlings plaguing a livestock farmer.

"It was raining dead birds," said Franklin Township Mayor Brian Levine….

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: conservation; governmentprograms; pests; usda

1 posted on 01/27/2009 7:51:21 AM PST by Marc Tumin
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To: Marc Tumin

<Yesterday, the USDA acknowledged a few mistakes of its own in spreading the word

As in, it didn’t? I just saw 2 reports about this on FOX. I can’t imagine walking out of your house and seeing hundreds of dead birds all over and having no idea what’s going on. And then the govt tells you it’s alright to pick them up? Yuck. You killed them, feds, you come pick them up.


2 posted on 01/27/2009 7:55:28 AM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: Marc Tumin
They were practicing for those areas that refuse to be supportive of Hussein.
3 posted on 01/27/2009 7:57:29 AM PST by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: radiohead
Having trouble believing it only killed starlings. What else aren't trhey telling us.

Pesticide?? I think it's called "poison".

4 posted on 01/27/2009 7:59:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: stubernx98

Prospective clients ping! ;-)


5 posted on 01/27/2009 7:59:38 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Marc Tumin

“Obama” in Kenyan for Bird Killer.


6 posted on 01/27/2009 8:01:58 AM PST by edcoil (Hey, I found my round-tuit, guess I'll go to work now.)
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To: Marc Tumin
"to kill 3,000 to 5,000 starlings plaguing a livestock farmer."

Livestock could care less about starlings. Starlings are seed eaters. Most of us have seen thousands of them eating when farmers are seeding in the spring.

7 posted on 01/27/2009 8:03:11 AM PST by AGreatPer (Obama is not my president until we see his birth certificate. A real one.)
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To: Marc Tumin
It was part of an ill-conceived plan by the American Acclimatization Society to make European immigrants feel at home by filling America with all the birds mentioned in Shakespeare's works.

They should make them come and pick up the dead birds. Morons.

8 posted on 01/27/2009 8:03:14 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Marc Tumin
Stop the federal government before it's too late.

Today it's birds. Tomorrow it's us.

9 posted on 01/27/2009 8:03:46 AM PST by IbJensen (The USA has been failing since Wilson, Take this country back now before it's too late.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well, considering that this group operated in the 1890s, I guess my prior suggestion won’t work.


10 posted on 01/27/2009 8:04:12 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Marc Tumin
A class action lawsuit should be filed on behalf of the birds against the federal government.

There. That should keep the ambulance chasers busy.

11 posted on 01/27/2009 8:04:50 AM PST by IbJensen (The USA has been failing since Wilson, Take this country back now before it's too late.)
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To: Marc Tumin

English starlings are a real problem where we live.

Hey, Feds.........can you do something about the grackles, too, please? K, thnx.


12 posted on 01/27/2009 8:05:33 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Sacajaweau
4-Aminopyridine

Introduction: 4-Aminopyridine, a pyridine compound, is an extremely effective bird poison. It is one of the most prominent avicides. It is registered with the EPA for use against red-winged blackbirds, blackbirds in agricultural fields, grackles, pigeons, and sparrows around public buildings, and various birds around livestock feeding pens.

Avitrol repels birds by poisoning a few members of a flock, causing them to become hyperactive. Their distress calls signal other birds to leave the site. Only a small number of birds need to be affected to cause alarm in the rest of the flock. After one alarming exposure, birds will usually not return to treated areas. Avitrol is available as grain baits or as a powder concentrate.

Toxicological Effects:

* Acute toxicity: 4-Aminopyridine is highly toxic to mammals. The central nervous system is strongly excited by 4-aminopyridine. Based on observations with 2-aminopyridine, a similar compound, individuals with a history of convulsive disorders may be at an increased risk from exposure to 4-aminopyridine [30,31]. The principal action of 4-aminopyridine in the body is to encourage message-carrying (transmitter) substances to be released throughout the nervous system, overstimulating it [68]. While intended strictly for use as a bird repellent, accidental ingestion of as little as 60 mg has caused severe poisoning in adult humans [68]. It is rapidly absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract [8]. Poisonings are characterized by thirst, nausea, dizziness, weakness, and intense sweating, followed by impairment of normal mental functioning (toxic psychosis), lack of muscular coordination, tremors, labored breathing, and generalized seizures [167].

Symptoms of Avitrol poisoning in rats, dogs, and horses include over-production of saliva, tendency to become over-stimulated, and trembling, which can progress to convulsions. Death can result from respiratory arrest or heart failure [23,30]. Skin exposure to Avitrol may lead to systemic intoxication or general overall poisoning [30]. Avitrol may contribute to the excessive formation of a substance called methemoglobin. Methemoglobin is similar to hemoglobin, the oxygen-carrying part of the blood, except that it cannot carry oxygen. When there is excess methemoglobin in the blood, oxygen cannot be transported and blood eventually becomes oxygen depleted, resulting in the condition methemoglobinemia.

The LD50 for 4-aminopyridine is 20 to 29 mg/kg in rats, and is 3.7 mg/kg in dogs [8,167]. It is readily absorbed through the skin [23]. The dermal LD50 is 326 mg/kg in rabbits [23,30]. 4-Aminopyridine is an eye irritant. Inflammation of the iris and conjunctivitis were noted in the eyes of albino rabbits 1 hour after 10 mg of 4-aminopyridine hydrochloride were applied. These symptoms disappeared after 7 days [167].

* Chronic toxicity: High dietary doses (2 to 3.25 mg/kg/day) caused increased brain weight. Brain appearance remained normal [167]. However, since dietary intake is assumed to be negligible, and because significant repeated exposure is not expected to occur, EPA has not required long-term toxicity studies of 4-aminopyridine [167].

13 posted on 01/27/2009 8:06:57 AM PST by CholeraJoe (You think I'm crazy? I got your crazy right here!)
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To: Marc Tumin

I wish my Dad was alive to read this story. He really hated starlings.


14 posted on 01/27/2009 8:07:33 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Marc Tumin; All

Can anyone explain why 10-12 yr old boys don’t still get B-B guns for their birthday?


15 posted on 01/27/2009 8:09:26 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: radiohead
Starlings are multiplying like the plague. I wish the feds would bring their magic dust here to S.E. Michigan.

I don't know what causes them to flock but one day a few years ago while driving home from work, there was a flock so large it looked like a miniature cloud swerving and diving in the sky. There were literally thousands of them. When I got home my car was covered with bird poop.

16 posted on 01/27/2009 8:12:16 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My grandpa started walking five miles a day when he was 60..Now we don't know where he is.)
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To: IbJensen

lol nervously


17 posted on 01/27/2009 8:14:42 AM PST by Global2010 (God Will see us through. Persevere)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

It was part of an ill-conceived plan by the American Acclimatization Society to make European immigrants feel at home by filling America with all the birds mentioned in Shakespeare’s works.

The Starlings were a test in our ancestors time for what was to come in our time?

“It is hard to imagine now, but European starlings
(Sturnus vulgaris, Fig. 1) were purposefully introduced
from Europe into this country. After two failed
attempts, about 60 European starlings were released
into New York’s Central Park in 1890 by a small group
of people with a passion to introduce all of the animals
mentioned in the works of William Shakespeare. The
offspring of the original 60 starlings have spread across
the continental United States, northward to southern
Canada and Alaska, and southward into Central
America. There are now an estimated 150 million
starlings in the United States.

In 1889 and 1892, the Portland Song Bird Club
released 35 pairs of starlings in Portland, Oregon.
These birds established themselves, but then
disappeared in 1901 or 1902. The next sighting of a
starling in the Pacific Northwest was not until the mid
1940s. Presumably these birds could be genetically
linked to the 1890 Central Park introduction.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/living/starlings.pdf


18 posted on 01/27/2009 8:20:29 AM PST by shoutingandpointing ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Marc Tumin

In Texas, starlings, grackles, crows and ravens have been considered “pests”, no harm, no foul on getting rid of them if they “...are depredating, have depredated or are ABOUT to depredate”. Grackles really create health hazzards around eateries when they decide to invade the surrounding trees. However, vultures are protected (!).

And NO, it’s NOT “loss” of habitat pressure causing them to gather in certain areas, that’s what they do, even in small towns surrounded by rural farm/ranch land where there’s plenty of land in which to disperse.


19 posted on 01/27/2009 8:25:54 AM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Sacajaweau

The way they pre-bait is how these select for starlings. When APHIS (formerly ADC) comes in to use this stuff, they pre-bait for a week or two to sucker the starlings into feeding at the bait stations. Then they add the starlicide and kill them.


20 posted on 01/27/2009 8:28:49 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Marc Tumin
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21 posted on 01/27/2009 8:31:49 AM PST by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Marc Tumin

Starlings are the worst pest I have ever encountered. When they fly and roost on your property they crap on everything. Everything must be covered, anything under a carport is fair game to them.
They roost in the trees, on the tools, on the lumber racks, under the shade and the ground is covered in poop.

I was using my table saw one day and left it uncovered that night. The next day it took several hours of washing to clean the crap off of it, and the barbaque, and the work table, and the floor, the shelvs for tools.

The response to starlings is to KILL THEM ALL! Any method, any means.


22 posted on 01/27/2009 8:35:16 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: Marc Tumin

Take ‘em out; they are cavity dwellers. They take nesting places from American Kestrels, as an example.

Take all of them out by any means available.


23 posted on 01/27/2009 8:36:33 AM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: Marc Tumin
Clarice Starling:


24 posted on 01/27/2009 8:39:58 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: CholeraJoe

I think they would have been using DRC-1339 for the pesticide, since it has lower secondary kills.

Avitrol is nasty stuff. It is best used for grackles - when grackels become erratic, the rest of them clear off. We used to have grackles on our farm by the hundreds. Hated them with a passion. I could get them to clear off for a day by blowing one up with the .17HMR in a very public manner. The .17 is wonderful for this — the target bird just explodes into a puff of feathers. You hear all this squawking and carrying on in the trees and in the shops, and they just clear off for the day.

Never used Avitrol. I figured the paperwork was too much hassle.


25 posted on 01/27/2009 8:47:29 AM PST by NVDave
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To: shoutingandpointing

Exactly. Same with the English Sparrow. Those idiots decided it would be nice to have these rats here. They both harass or try to kill my Purple Martins. I pick off the trash birds with my scoped pellet gun right off the Martin house. The Martins just sit there with gratified look. LOL


26 posted on 01/27/2009 8:55:57 AM PST by manic4organic (We Are S0 Screwed)
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To: brushcop
The MSM in D/FW always has a fit when people try to control the grackles as exampled by last night's story:

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8313256&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

27 posted on 01/27/2009 9:01:18 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
English starlings are a real problem where we live.

They should get some animal trainer from the Animal Planet channel to train them to eat kudzu.

28 posted on 01/27/2009 9:02:21 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Deaf Smith

Yes, it’s always the “feelings on the sleeve” bunch who conveniently forget the health aspects of being overrun with these critters, I know that situation well.

People need to find something to do with their time (work?) rather than screeching about every little thing having to do with controlling nuisance wildlife populations.

I wish there was an effective way to relocate them to the whiner’s trees and houses, then they’d know what a real nuisance is.


29 posted on 01/27/2009 9:10:42 AM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Beagle8U
Can anyone explain why 10-12 yr old boys don’t still get B-B guns for their birthday?

One reason might be that you must be 18 years old to buy BB's

30 posted on 01/27/2009 9:26:01 AM PST by TYVets
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To: radiohead
"I can’t imagine walking out of your house and seeing hundreds of dead birds all over and having no idea what’s going on."

the obvious first instincts would be to get the hell out of the house until you know what is going on. Dead birds is a very good indication of something bad in the air and you need to get out.

31 posted on 01/27/2009 9:44:37 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: TYVets

“One reason might be that you must be 18 years old to buy BB’s “

Huh? Where?


32 posted on 01/27/2009 10:14:09 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Tunehead54
Right, but the problem is the government. They don't want the problem solved, because then they wouldn't need a USDNR (US Department of Natural Resources)employees on site at the airports to scare the birds(into flight so they hit airplanes).

Now if Obama would issue an executive order.........

33 posted on 01/27/2009 10:19:25 AM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Beagle8U
“One reason might be that you must be 18 years old to buy BB’s “

Huh? Where?

Missouri

34 posted on 01/27/2009 10:40:53 AM PST by TYVets
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To: NVDave
I could get them to clear off for a day by blowing one up with the .17HMR in a very public manner. The .17 is wonderful for this — the target bird just explodes into a puff of feathers. You hear all this squawking and carrying on in the trees and in the shops, and they just clear off for the day.

Terrorism can be a very effective tactic.

35 posted on 01/27/2009 10:47:39 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sacajaweau

<Having trouble believing it only killed starlings. What else aren’t they telling us.

That’s my thinking as well.


36 posted on 01/27/2009 10:54:39 AM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: radiohead
Having trouble believing it only killed starlings. What else aren’t they telling us.

That’s my thinking as well.

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you..."

Walk wary when you hear those words...

the infowarrior

37 posted on 01/27/2009 11:17:07 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: All

I thought starlings were introduced in the Eastern USA to eat Japanese beetles. Is this a different species of starling?


38 posted on 01/27/2009 11:22:35 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Independence! The Federal Constitution,may it never fail. (~Caleb Earle -1811.))
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To: HIDEK6

Tell me about it! We could use less of that stuff around here, too.


39 posted on 01/27/2009 11:30:49 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Marc Tumin
Whew. I'm just glad they didn't waterboard them!
40 posted on 01/27/2009 11:32:55 AM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Marc Tumin

Starlings are a real nuisance. My dad and I used to pop them with the 22 out of a big locust trees near the house. We’d compete all year. After you get them cleared out, the desirable birds move in. After a while, they’re back again, so you end up culling them in cycles.


41 posted on 01/27/2009 11:43:33 AM PST by Malsua
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To: manic4organic
My trusty Beeman R-7 and a 4x32 Simmons protects those mosquito eating Purple Martins and their Tree Swallow cousins here!

Starlings, Cowbirds (nastiest of brood parasites), and English Sparrows are the devil's chickens.

42 posted on 01/27/2009 12:29:42 PM PST by shoutingandpointing ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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