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DAVE PICKS GILLIBRAND AS LIBERAL DEMS HOWL ( An Upstate Conservative for Hillary's slot???)
New York Post ^ | January 23, 2009 Posted: 2:03 am | FREDRIC U. DICKER State Editor

Posted on 01/23/2009 7:42:32 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 01/23/2009 7:52:04 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: rod1

Is she Pro choice? If yes , then she is not conservative, no matter how many NRA memberships she has.


41 posted on 01/23/2009 8:37:24 AM PST by Mandingo Conservative (Satan was like the first "community organizer", just ask Eve, the first liberal useful idiot!)
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To: Steamburg

“This looks like a clear shot across the one’s bow about just how far left he will be permitted to go.”

Dont be fooled. The POS schumer wanted her. Why? It’s about “positioning” to keep the Dem majority in Congress. The phony ‘moderation’ of these liberals is a LIE. She will vote quite liberal enough to destroy american prosperity, soveriegnty, freedom and traditional values.


42 posted on 01/23/2009 8:37:39 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose bailouts, boondoggles, big Government, bad economy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pass the popcorn, please.


43 posted on 01/23/2009 8:41:24 AM PST by quesney
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To: Mandingo Conservative

Not much info on her abortion stance:

http://www.ontheissues.org/NY/Kirsten_Gillibrand_Abortion.htm


44 posted on 01/23/2009 8:43:39 AM PST by blondee123 (I will never acknowledge a Marxist as President of the United States of America!)
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To: Mandingo Conservative

“Is she Pro choice? If yes , then she is not conservative, no matter how many NRA memberships she has.”

There are more unicorns in America than pro-life women Democrat politicians. Aint no such animal. Gillibrand is 100% NARAL supported.

Just because some idiot journalist called her a conservative doesnt make it so. It’s a fake controversy - she’s a liberal.

GILLIBRAND IS A BIG FAT LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. 95% LIBERAL RATING!

Looking at these ratings, she will be more liberal than Hillary Clinton!

http://electoral-vote.com/evp2009/House/lib_house_ratings-2007.html

NY-20 Kirsten Gillibrand (D)
NARAL ACLU ADA CDF LCV NAACP SEIU Mean
100% 100% 95% 100% 95% 96% 89% 96%


45 posted on 01/23/2009 8:44:43 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose bailouts, boondoggles, big Government, bad economy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Member of the “Blue Dog” Coalition of conservative Democrats.

http://www.ontheissues.org/NY/Kirsten_Gillibrand_Principles_+_Values.htm


46 posted on 01/23/2009 8:46:42 AM PST by blondee123 (I will never acknowledge a Marxist as President of the United States of America!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“She’s no doubt a placeholder and will be strenuously opposed in the 2010 primary”

That’s the main benefit of this. In fact, she is quite liberal, that’s a phony concern. It’s about who gets to move up power. it would be nice to see:
1) Republicans take the house seat she vacates.
2) Democrats to have a primary train wreck in 2010.
3) Rep Peter King score an upset and win the Senate seat.

If the Democrats are unpopular enough by then, it could happen.


47 posted on 01/23/2009 8:47:20 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose bailouts, boondoggles, big Government, bad economy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Considering what NY is capable of giving us, this isn’t too bad, much better than I expected.


48 posted on 01/23/2009 8:48:34 AM PST by pallis
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To: 07Jack

“I guess that would make her in a relative sense “conservative for a Democrat”, but hardly a conservative in the true meaning.”

Right on. She is not a conservative by any definition of the word. Heck, most of the Republican party is not conservative anymore. Perish the thought of conservative democrats.


49 posted on 01/23/2009 8:52:39 AM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Cong. Kirsten Gillibrand from Columbia County, NY. Her ACU rating in her only year rated year in Congress — 8. Exactly the same as Clinton in 2007.”

CONSERVATIVE?!?! That’s a lie.

OTOH, did she ever release her tax returns?

“As Barack Obama rightfully calls out Hillary Clinton on refusing to release her tax returns, New Yorkers in the 20th CD are wondering why their own carpetbagging liberal attorney isn’t releasing hers.

That’s right, folks: Kirsten Gillibrand’s tax evasion continues.”
http://nycr.blogspot.com/search/label/Gillibrand

Looking at her house district, this appointment saves Gillibrand from certain defeat in 2010. Her House seat needs to go Republican.


50 posted on 01/23/2009 8:53:39 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose bailouts, boondoggles, big Government, bad economy.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Has covered Albany forever for the NYP.
Straightforward type.


51 posted on 01/23/2009 8:56:14 AM PST by Blagden Alley
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think you should ask the mod to pull the “conservative” label in the headline for this woman. She’s nothing of the sort.


52 posted on 01/23/2009 8:58:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance (God is watching and listening.)(The Personhood Imperative: www.BanAbortionNOW.com)
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To: WOSG

That would be good!


53 posted on 01/23/2009 8:58:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Have we really reached a point where we are going to cheer because someone appointed a liberal Dem who made some token gestures towards gun ownership in order to pander to her red congressional district?

Although she is a Dem, she is not a liberal in the Obama/Biden/Cuomo(Mario)/Pelosi/Hinchey mold. In fact, there are Republicans in New York more liberal than her (i.e., Guiliani). And her positions on gun ownership and the Second Amendment runs deep in her family. (From what I have read, her mother was a member of her college rifle team and still shoots the Thanksgiving turkey.)

54 posted on 01/23/2009 9:00:05 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Strongly Favors topic 3:
Same-sex domestic partnership benefits
(+5 points on Social scale
 
Favors topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's right
(+2 points on Social scale)
 
Opposes topic 15:
Expand the armed forces
(+2 points on Social scale)
Extend reserve retirement pay parity back to 9/11: Favors topic 15
YES on restricting no-bid defense contracts: Strongly Opposes topic 15
 
Strongly Favors topic 14:
The Patriot Act harms civil liberties
(+5 points on Social scale)
Restore habeas corpus for detainees in the War on Terror: Favors topic 14
YES on Veto override: Congressional oversight of CIA interrogations: Strongly Favors topic 14
YES on requiring FISA warrants for wiretaps in US, but not abroad: Strongly Favors topic 14
NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad: Strongly Favors topic 14
YES on retroactive immunity for telecoms' warrantless surveillance: Opposes topic 14
http://www.ontheissues.org/NY/Kirsten_Gillibrand.htm#Principles_+_Values
55 posted on 01/23/2009 9:04:12 AM PST by blondee123 (I will never acknowledge a Marxist as President of the United States of America!)
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To: WOSG

Very interesting!


56 posted on 01/23/2009 9:15:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: blondee123

“Member of the “Blue Dog” Coalition of conservative Democrats.”

Please! There ARE NO CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS! That’s a lie.
The most ‘conservative’ Democrats have voting records that are MORE LIBERAL THAN “RINO” “LIBERAL” REPUBLICANS.

Check it out here:

http://electoral-vote.com/evp2009/House/lib_house_ratings-2007.html

Stop using the lie-phrase “conservative Democrats” - it’s a ploy to deceive and fool voters. The “Blue Dogs” are nothing more than PELOSI’S POODLES, who help advance the liberal agenda but deceive their conservative districts by pandering on a few votes to look more acceptable than they are.

Are you fooled by that lie?


57 posted on 01/23/2009 9:22:15 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose bailouts, boondoggles, big Government, bad economy.)
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To: blondee123
From your link:

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Kirsten Gillibrand is a Populist-Leaning Liberal.

58 posted on 01/23/2009 9:23:26 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m not surprised at all. The Governor has to look out for his job first and he has to run again in the next few years for a job he hs never won, remember he was appointed. This will keep upstate somewhat happy.


59 posted on 01/23/2009 9:27:11 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Labyrinthos

“Although she is a Dem, she is not a liberal in the Obama/Biden/Cuomo(Mario)/Pelosi/Hinchey mold.”

FALSE. She is in that mold and will vote that way. Her voting record is 95% Liberal. Her House voting record is MORE LIBERAL THAN PELOSI’S. see previous link on Liberal group vote ratings.

” In fact, there are Republicans in New York more liberal than her (i.e., Guiliani).”
FALSE. Rudy’s 12 commitments in his campaign were night-and-day far far more conservative than anything Gillibrand has done.

” And her positions on gun ownership and the Second Amendment” ... are the ONLY issue where she departs from liberal Democrat orthodoxy. BFD. It didnt stop ACLU, ADA and the unions from giving her a 90%+ rating.


60 posted on 01/23/2009 9:29:11 AM PST by WOSG (Oppose bailouts, boondoggles, big Government, bad economy.)
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