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Family Accused of Sending Kids to Bed Too Early
Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) ^ | January 20, 2009

Posted on 01/20/2009 3:08:35 PM PST by Sopater

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To: rovenstinez
You forgot, in my case we had to get up at 5 a.m, milk a cow, throw papers, then go and work 2 hours at the local IGA grocery store, and then get to school by 8 am. We were REALLY abused.

Did you have at time machine?

41 posted on 01/20/2009 4:23:06 PM PST by TankerKC (Yes we can? I already could.)
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To: Sopater

It’s going to get a lot worse.


42 posted on 01/20/2009 4:24:56 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: BenLurkin

Funny, I had a Lib tell me that a house WITH a TV was abuse...Hmm...


43 posted on 01/20/2009 4:25:00 PM PST by majormaturity
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To: Texas56

And you willhave my support to whatever extent needed...keep up the good work!


44 posted on 01/20/2009 4:28:08 PM PST by majormaturity
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To: Texas56

We do the same in our homeschool group as well. I would bet that the majority of homeschoolers do too. The idea that homeschoolers ‘cheat’ when testing their children is, disgusting


45 posted on 01/20/2009 4:32:21 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Sopater
that the children are sent to bed “really early”

The article did not state how early the children were sent to bed. How early is considered to early?

46 posted on 01/20/2009 4:34:46 PM PST by TheMom (When does humblegunner get to test TheGirl's Christmas present?)
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To: TruthConquers

Considering the stories that come to light from time to time that expose public school teachers “helping” their students on standarised tests by giving them the answers, yes, it is real nervy of them to question our integrity.


47 posted on 01/20/2009 4:37:44 PM PST by kalee
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To: CindyDawg

Amen! I have a dear friend in W.VA that was visited by CPS due to an anonymous call. She & her husband are wonderful parents. She was totally freaked out for about a month; the time it took to get the all clear.


48 posted on 01/20/2009 4:38:23 PM PST by TheMom (When does humblegunner get to test TheGirl's Christmas present?)
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To: TruthConquers; Texas56

It depends on what test you use and what its purpose is. Some tests require administration in a group setting with college-educated proctors. Others can be administered by anyone, anywhere. Some states require certain tests under certain conditions, and others don’t.

I administer tests at home, because they’re strictly for our diagnostic use: “Ooops, Sally didn’t learn fractions after all. Summer school!” Our state requires that they “take a nationally standardized test,” with no other guidelines. (And the state isn’t allowed to ask for the results, either!)


49 posted on 01/20/2009 4:38:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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To: mamelukesabre

I looked at EVERYTHING in the house also starting around the 2nd grade....but never touched the guns......found my father’s Divirce papers and pictures used to teach my older sister about sex.......

I had a brother and 2 sisters.........So, I got a locker and a lock for my stuff real quick.......


50 posted on 01/20/2009 4:40:31 PM PST by Ecliptic
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To: SkyDancer

One fine day in the 50’s we lost power at our school and got out early. Just as my friends and I walked off the school grounds, we caught the local VDOT workers changing all the “up” roads to down and all the “down” roads to up. That’s when I discovered the terrible truth in “We’re from the government and we’re here to help you”.


51 posted on 01/20/2009 4:50:26 PM PST by junkman_106 (The ACLU can go have aerial intercourse with a revolving glazed pastry.)
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To: Sopater

This organization seems to be on the ball, and getting results without aggravating Child Protective Services.

It’s easy to fall into the trap of being adversarial, but it’s important to remember that when the system is working properly, CPS are not bad guys, and save many children’s lives, in life-threatening situations. But it’s not easy.

In most any State, the CPS are either two aggressive or not aggressive enough, so it is very helpful when an organization like this knows not just what to do, but how to say it. Saving everybody a lot of grief.


52 posted on 01/20/2009 4:52:07 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: TheMom

My family had the same experience with similar results...our problem was generated by a call WE made to child services concerning a neighbor leaving her two kids alone and going out drinking and carousing for several days at a time. CS never even visited the home. And while in MY house, accused me of being an “absent” father because I was in the Navy! Never trust a government agency.


53 posted on 01/20/2009 4:55:33 PM PST by junkman_106 (The ACLU can go have aerial intercourse with a revolving glazed pastry.)
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To: Tax-chick

I believe that this bill will be aimed at the tests used to see how well the child is doing grade level work. For Obama to imply that a bill is needed and approved teachers need to administer these tests is to imply that the homeschoolers doing annual grade level testing aren’t to be trusted.

Of course homeschoolers do various diagnostic test for their own use. I do not believe that is what the legislation is referring to.


54 posted on 01/20/2009 4:58:15 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: CindyDawg
I would prefer no anonymous calls. The person being investigated doesn't have to be identified but the state should know and file charges if it is determined the report was malicious or vengeful.

Absolutely. Anyone can call and say anything, for any reason. They need to be identified, if not to the people being accused, even though the law says that people have the right to face their accusers, at least some official would know who it is, and a follow up could be to ask that person WHY they filed a false claim, and made the state spend all that money investigating it.

55 posted on 01/20/2009 5:02:58 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Darteaus94025

Ain’t that the truth.

I can stare straight at a can of bean and ham soup in my cupboard and still not be able to find it. And it’s not because of poor eyesight either. I still have 20-20. That runs in the family. Eyesight stays good until about age 55, then only the close-up vision suffers, then about age 65 the cataracts sets in and by age 75-surgery or blindness-take your pick.

I don’t know what the problem is. I can dump all my tools out of my tool box and spread them around and not be able to find what I want...get disgusted and leave, come back 10 minutes later and spot it right away.

Similar problems with hearing. I can hear a car door slam half a block away from inside my house. I can hear dog whistles and the high pitch whine of an incandescent lightbulb at half power from a dimmer switch. I can hear a TV running when it’s on mute...the tube gives off a very faint whine. From upstairs, I can hear the gas valve open on my furnace in the basement a fraction of a second before it fires up. I can hear the sound a pebble makes on the pavement when it’s stuck in the tread of my car tire. I can hear tire scrub when the front end is out of alignment. I can tell you which cars in traffic are terribly low on oil just by the engine sounds.

But I have problems comprehending voices. I’m constantly saying “sorry, what?”, “come again?”, “can you repeat that?”. If someone speaks with an accent, I get a headache concentrating so hard to make sense of what they are saying. WHen I get tired of trying to decipher people’s words, I cut them off and start talking loudly so I don’t have to work so hard anymore at listening.

Well this post sure has nothing to do with the article.


56 posted on 01/20/2009 5:03:13 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Bob

Bullsh!t.

All the kid needs to do is use the key...same as you do.


57 posted on 01/20/2009 5:05:12 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Golly gee, I’m really impressed/s

Why can’t you just tell the brat to not shoot anyone with it?


58 posted on 01/20/2009 5:06:59 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre
I've got one kid who'd listen when I told her not to shoot anybody . . . the other one would do it "by accident" just fooling around.

Ya gotta know your kids. Unfortunately, my second could wreck a junkyard with a rubber hammer. More likely that he would just lose something, ruin the finish on it, or blow it up by putting the wrong ammo up the spout. He'd be very sorry afterwards, but sorry pays no toll.

59 posted on 01/20/2009 5:14:57 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary - recess appointment))
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To: mamelukesabre; Ecliptic

You folks, like myself, were Born To Inventory. Hope you were able to put this superpower to good use in your lives.

I was home schooled for almost two years in Chattanooga cir. 1973-74. Because two of the three foster sisters (I was the taken in one) failed parts of the evaluation we were all ordered to re-attend public schools. Promptly bused to an all-black attended and administered school I learned that prejudice is far worse when the minority has a whipping horse delivered each weekday.

I ignored the “teachers” drivel, got tough and read up on my own. At a time when we should be eliminating the Secretary of Education it looks like we’re going to see Quincy Jones, first Secretary of Culture.

On a petri dish.


60 posted on 01/20/2009 5:16:51 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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