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College bound no more
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | January 18, 2009 | Tracey O'Shaughnessy

Posted on 01/18/2009 10:34:57 AM PST by Graybeard58

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1 posted on 01/18/2009 10:34:57 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
Great article.

The below sums it up -- one of the few times I've *ever* agreed with Doonesbury:

Cheers!

2 posted on 01/18/2009 10:40:39 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Graybeard58

Hog wash, go to a state college or university...they are cheep.


3 posted on 01/18/2009 10:40:42 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Graybeard58

Send him to India, 4k for 4 years, Food and Roof

We continue to import workers from the third world, and companies have been hiring these workers for executive positions, nothing wrong with it anymore.


4 posted on 01/18/2009 10:42:45 AM PST by dila813
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To: svcw

Thank you! My son is going to college this fall. He will stay in state and we will pay for it. What ever happened to your kid getting a job to help pay for it? There are also thousands of scholarships available.


5 posted on 01/18/2009 10:44:21 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Graybeard58

Nothing wrong with junior college for the first couple of years. The credits are usually fully transferable to finish undergraduate and graduate work elsewhere with a overall great savings of money.


6 posted on 01/18/2009 10:44:30 AM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Graybeard58

Nothing wrong with junior college for the first couple of years. The credits are usually fully transferable to finish undergraduate and graduate work elsewhere with a overall great savings of money.


7 posted on 01/18/2009 10:44:38 AM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Graybeard58
So what's your point? is it:

a) That college is not affordable or

b) Students are not ready?

8 posted on 01/18/2009 10:45:41 AM PST by O6ret
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To: svcw

Not as cheap as they once were. I paid my own way through college by working. NO loans.

I’m not so sure that can be done today.


9 posted on 01/18/2009 10:46:37 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Graybeard58

Even though many won’t have the funds to pay “up front”, unless things are tremendously different from now (and of course they could be), most students who really want to attend college are eligible for student loans and/or work study. Really good students qualify for scholarships.

That said, as a part time college instructor, I’m amazed at how the learners’ attitudes have changed over the past decade. On my recent instructor evaluations, some students stated they thought it was unfair to have to take notes in class. They claimed doing so was distracting and “boring”. So, basically, they wanted the PowerPoint handouts given to them, but not really discussed/reviewed, and then to be entertained during class time.

I think many educators have caved in to the demands for watered-down curriculum and expectations. Some may fear negative student ratings. Not sure if we’re past the point of no return, but some days it seems like it.

p.s. Watch “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed”


10 posted on 01/18/2009 10:46:55 AM PST by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: svcw
May I suggest he learn a trade instead of going to college. My grand daughter thought conservative until after four years of indoctrination at college. Now she is an educated left wing liberal.
11 posted on 01/18/2009 10:48:17 AM PST by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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To: Graybeard58

How many Ivy League MBA’s does it take to run a Wall Street firm into the ground?


12 posted on 01/18/2009 10:48:28 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Post Toasties

Yeah but they stay home, continue to eat your food and take up space.


13 posted on 01/18/2009 10:48:39 AM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: Graybeard58
The 100-lb. gorilla in the room in terms of American educational statistics is immigration from Mexico and Central America. That being said, certain ethnic groups (Koreans, East Indians, Persians, even Pakistanis) far outperform their white counterparts, especially in public schools.

The large Mexican/Central American youth population, combined with the plateauing and lower middle class whites and the continued academic underachievement of American blacks are the keys to understanding why so many schools are failing. It has nothing to do with "liberal" versus "conservative' (as the lib families in my area push their kids to be academic overachievers) or "religious" versus "secular." Its a question of culture and the importance of achievement in the academic sphere.

14 posted on 01/18/2009 10:48:43 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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”from 1982 to 2007 in the U.S., the cost of college tuition and fees has soared 439 percent."

Liberals will never attack ‘Big Education’ with the same enthusiasm in which they attack ‘Big’ everything else. Stink’n hypocrites!

15 posted on 01/18/2009 10:48:47 AM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: svcw

Yes, why doesn’t the author consider University of Connecticut, since she live in Connecticut?

Total tuition, room, board, and fees at the main campus: $18,842.

Total tuition and fees at satellite campuses: $7,754. (Have the kid commute from home.)

http://www.admissions.uconn.edu/tuition/index.php

(I do agree with her main argument that college costs are out of control, but she seems to be limiting her possibilities to private universities.)


16 posted on 01/18/2009 10:48:55 AM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but he will give us the shaft.)
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To: svcw

Get the first two years out of the road at a community college. Even cheaper.


17 posted on 01/18/2009 10:49:36 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: mamelukesabre

True but what is. They are still cheep. Get a job borrow money, if you want to go go.
I worked my way through, took six years but so what. The day I graduated I only owed $500.


18 posted on 01/18/2009 10:50:28 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Graybeard58

He could join the military, get the G.I. Bill and go to college for free, but his mother would probably rather he shave his head and join Hiri Krishna. Also, there’s a college in the Missouri Ozarks where all students have to work for their tuition: http://www.cofo.edu/future.asp


19 posted on 01/18/2009 10:51:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Don't confuse what you got a right to do with what's right to do." Bill Bennett)
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This is ludicrous. Yes, if you’re determined for some reason to send your child to Harvard, you may have a problem. But if you have serious financial issues, then send him to a junior college for two years and then on to State U. Believe me, five years down the road his employers are not going to care where he got his undergraduate degree. It’s really only important where he goes to graduate school, not undergrad. To finance the undergraduate education he can get grants, scholarships, and loans to pay for it, live in the dorm, and hold one or two part-time jobs.

To finance grad school he will probably have to do a TAship or research assistantship and scramble around for some additional money, but so what. Kids are young and energetic and most of ‘em need to spend less time drinking and partying anyway.

Trust me, if our one-parent family can do it, anybody can do it. People need to stop whining.


20 posted on 01/18/2009 10:51:40 AM PST by ottbmare
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