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Senate passes sweeping conservation measure
Reuters ^ | Jan. 15, 2009 | Thomas Ferraro

Posted on 01/15/2009 8:44:34 PM PST by FocusNexus

The Senate on Thursday approved a sweeping conservation measure as it tries to reverse years of rollbacks in environmental protection by the administration of outgoing President George W. Bush.

On a vote of 73-21, it passed a package of nearly 170 land and water bills and sent it to the House of Representatives, which was expected to give it final approval.

Barack Obama is set to sign it into law after he is sworn in as president on Tuesday, one of the first moves in what is likely to be a more aggressive approach toward the environment.

Democratic Sen. Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico called it one of the broadest conservation measures in decades. Mostly Republican critics, however, said it would deny access to lands for possible oil and gas drilling.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoenvironment; congress; conservation; drillheredrillnow; environment; environmentalists; envirowhackos; greens; obama; oil; oildrilling
And this is just the beginning...
1 posted on 01/15/2009 8:44:34 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

Under bill, giant chunks of California stay wild

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/15/MNO215B3BA.DTL

The Senate approved a major expansion of wilderness areas nationwide Thursday, protecting more than 2 million acres of public land from drilling, logging and mining, including 735,000 acres across California.

The 73-to-21 vote was a huge victory for conservationists, who convinced Senate leaders to roll 160 wilderness bills into one giant package. The bill would permanently protect lands in nine states, from the Eastern Sierra Nevada in California to Oregon’s Mount Hood and from Utah’s Zion National Park to the Jefferson National Forest in Virginia.


2 posted on 01/15/2009 8:47:18 PM PST by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

A nation rich in resources refuses to use them....

In the coming century, Chinese historians writing about the fall of America will all ask: “What were they thinking? Were they even thinking at all?”

Then they will laugh. Around the world, we will no longer be despised as “ugly Americans.” We will be ridiculed as “stupid Americans.”


3 posted on 01/15/2009 8:48:27 PM PST by henkster (When I was young I was told anyone could be President. Now I believe it.)
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To: FocusNexus

It is a pro terrorism bill because it insures that domestic drilling and mining is limited and more oil is imported from radical middle east states.


4 posted on 01/15/2009 8:49:01 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: henkster

You hit the nail right on the head.


5 posted on 01/15/2009 8:53:18 PM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: FocusNexus

Who were the republican Quislings who voted for this monstrozity?


6 posted on 01/15/2009 8:53:22 PM PST by Postman
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To: lonestar67
It is a pro terrorism bill

We hunt terrorists, don't we?

7 posted on 01/15/2009 8:53:36 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: FocusNexus; All

Hopefully the folks in the North(NE) enjoy the cost of their

Home Heating Oil!!!

NEXT winter is gunna be tuff on them...


8 posted on 01/15/2009 8:57:20 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: FocusNexus
The Senate on Thursday approved a sweeping conservation measure as it tries to reverse years of rollbacks in environmental protection by the administration of outgoing President George W. Bush.

What rollbacks? There weren't any.

9 posted on 01/15/2009 9:04:50 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: lonestar67

its an anti-jobs bill.......imagine a country NOT using its own resources to stay independent and free while providing vast employment opportunities for its own citizens.


10 posted on 01/15/2009 9:10:07 PM PST by cherry
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To: Postman

I thought all of the current crop (or is it crap) of republicrats were Quislings...


11 posted on 01/15/2009 9:12:14 PM PST by 43north (11.04.08: the day America committed voluntary suicide)
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To: FocusNexus
protecting more than 2 million acres of public land from drilling, logging and mining, including 735,000 acres across California.

Seeing as how wildfires is the one thing that California is in need of increasing.

12 posted on 01/15/2009 9:32:14 PM PST by eclecticEel (In short, I want Obama given the same respect and deference that Democrats have given George Bush)
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To: FocusNexus
Barack Obama is set to sign it into law after he is sworn in as president on Tuesday, one of the first moves in what is likely to be a more aggressive approach toward the environment.

It will not be legal...any law the man signs is not legal.

13 posted on 01/15/2009 9:36:52 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: FocusNexus

Probably blocking drilling in ANWR too. Idiots.


14 posted on 01/15/2009 9:47:05 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: FocusNexus
And this is just the beginning...

Yes it is, and I've already got near permanent knot in my gut, and a splitting headache.

A little range time would probably help me relax a bit.

15 posted on 01/15/2009 10:09:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: FocusNexus
Wilderness means the federal government is seizing the land and placing off limits to all human access. In states like Idaho, the federal government controls most of the land. That land is unavailable for economic development or generation of a tax base. A nominal "Payment In Lieu of Taxes" is paid on some of the land to offset the tax revenue damage to the states.
16 posted on 01/15/2009 10:20:12 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: El Gato
A little range time would probably help me relax a bit.

Enjoy it while you can. I'll bet the lefties seize ranges and label them a toxic sites because of the lead.

17 posted on 01/15/2009 10:21:51 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: berdie

later


18 posted on 01/15/2009 10:47:20 PM PST by berdie
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To: Myrddin
Enjoy it while you can. I'll bet the lefties seize ranges and label them a toxic sites because of the lead.

Well, then I'll just have to set up some silhouette targets on the side of the hill across the creek, that's about as far I can shoot anyway, and it's all, including the creek, on my mother in law's place. No body around there is going to report gunfire, certainly nothing as tame a 7.62 NATO one round per trigger pull. If I had a belt fed machine gun, that they might report, or maybe not, considering it came from the "gun nut" farm, and the neighbors are used to it. Of course all but one is even farther away. I don't know who lives on that place now, since I think the long time owner has either passed away, or moved "in to town". But if he still lives there.. well he's used to it too, and would often hop on his 4 wheeler and come say hello when he heard us shooting. I know he'd be interested in a belt fed. Probably would want to shoot up a bunch of my ammo with it.

But unfortunately, I don't have a belt fed. :(.

19 posted on 01/15/2009 10:51:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
There's a guy in the Pocatello area with a belt fed machine gun mounted "rat patrol" style on his vehicle. I think it shoots 7.62x51 NATO. I've heard him firing at the range. It's pretty noisy. We have a couple FFL's with Class III licenses and a Sheriff who is pretty reasonable. One FFL has a nice M14 and M16 available for sale, but well out of my price range. I just dropped over $12K on a new 2007 Yamaha Roadliner. The two rifles are more expensive than the bike and much less useful to me.
20 posted on 01/15/2009 11:25:45 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: FocusNexus
Any time that the congress critters roll more than one bill together and do so speedily it is not just bad law it is horrible law. We won't find out what is buried in this hobgoblin of a law until long after it is to late to repair the harm it will cause.
21 posted on 01/15/2009 11:34:00 PM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Myrddin
A little range time would probably help me relax a bit.

Enjoy it while you can. I'll bet the lefties seize ranges and label them a toxic sites because of the lead.

You could go to the newly-designated wilderness and shoot at squirrels.
22 posted on 01/15/2009 11:43:29 PM PST by tvdog12345
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“NEXT winter is gunna be tuff on them...”

I wonder, do the dhims think these things are not going to have an effect, do they think people won’t figure it out or do they not care?


23 posted on 01/15/2009 11:45:25 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite

I wonder, do the dhims think these things are not going to have an effect, do they think people won’t figure it out or do they not care?
~~~
All I can say is that when Mama and the Kids get Cold

There Will Be HELL To Pay!!!

FWIW it’s goin’ down to + 18 in NW Louisiana tonite,,,
(so they say)

We will have house fires from the heaters that some folks use,,,

Many O’Bammy voters will have to use space-heaters to

keep warm...


24 posted on 01/16/2009 12:11:29 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Yeah, it’s on the way down to about +13 degrees here in suburban Maryland tonight.

Food on Friday is homemade chili; that ought to generate some heat.

But yeah, these bumbass Obama voters have no clue what they’ve done. It should be our main focus to make sure they know exactly why they’re unemployed/hungry/cold/broke.


25 posted on 01/16/2009 12:43:55 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PLMerite

Now Ya’ Dun It!!!

You Said CHILI!!!

LOL,,,Just had to go take the deer meat out of the freezer.

Only down to +23 now,,,

I don’t think it’s gunna go as low as the forecast...;0)


26 posted on 01/16/2009 1:29:04 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: FocusNexus

Just call it the “let it all burn” bill. They try not to do anything un-natural in Wilderness, like fight fires. One of the reasons more than 200,000 acres of forest burned in my County last summer.


28 posted on 01/16/2009 2:11:36 AM PST by marsh2
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

My chili’s not that exotic, just hamburger and the rest of the usual stuff.

Temperature wise they (radio) just said it was 16 degrees, going up to 22 today, then down to “9 degrees inside the district, 3 degrees outside the (DC) Beltway” tonight.

Brrrr!!!


29 posted on 01/16/2009 2:11:38 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: FocusNexus

Judging by the vote count, it was a bi-partisan butt-f***ing.


30 posted on 01/16/2009 2:38:10 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: PLMerite

My chili’s not that exotic, just hamburger and the rest of the usual stuff.
~~~
I bet it’s great stuff!!!

Meat Iz Meat,,, + “usual stuff”,,,

They lied to me,,,

It’s only + 22 this mornin’...;0)


31 posted on 01/16/2009 4:51:32 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: FocusNexus

Can’t you just hear the gears of enterprise grinding to a halt?


32 posted on 01/16/2009 4:52:31 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Sexual Chocolate Almond Chip with extra Hot Fudge)
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To: FocusNexus
"The Senate on Thursday approved a sweeping conservation measure as it tries to reverse years of rollbacks in environmental protection by the administration of outgoing President George W. Bush."

"Years of rollbacks?" What rollbacks? If anything, the Republicans continued the growth of the environazi movement. They SHOULD have defunded the EPA and spoke out against the myth of global warming but most remained silent or actually embraced the continuing BS (Newt and Pelosi, e.g.).

Oh well, it's irrelevant now - this country's finished. Game over!

33 posted on 01/16/2009 5:09:04 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: tvdog12345
You could go to the newly-designated wilderness and shoot at squirrels.

... or other game. Several species are overpopulated - deer, rabbits, donkeys...

34 posted on 01/16/2009 5:12:45 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“It’s only + 22 this mornin’...;0)”

You’re not missing anything. It’s +10 at Reagan National Airport, and I saw the temp on the Bank clock say +12 when I went out to get more meat this morning.


35 posted on 01/16/2009 6:37:29 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: tvdog12345
You could go to the newly-designated wilderness and shoot at squirrels.

Not legally. At most, you can hike in a short distance. It's off limits for hunting.

36 posted on 01/16/2009 8:46:43 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Carry_Okie

>>What rollbacks? There weren’t any.

Yep, but if you repeat a lie often enough...


37 posted on 01/16/2009 9:40:48 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: meyer

>>donkeys...

Tastes / Acts like Chicken?


38 posted on 01/16/2009 9:45:31 AM PST by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: 43north

To each his own.


39 posted on 01/16/2009 1:47:01 PM PST by Postman
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To: FocusNexus
Supply and demand.

Sharply reduced supply of available land with continued growing demand --> Sharply increasing land prices.

Of course, when the price of land skyrockets, landowners will be immediately hated by the Left for their unconscionable greed.

To the ignorant, basic economic laws are scary voodoo.

40 posted on 01/16/2009 1:52:42 PM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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