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Republicans need shareholder revolt
Town Hall.com ^ | Monday, January 12, 2009 | Star Parker

Posted on 01/12/2009 7:02:05 AM PST by Navy Patriot

The first Gallup poll out on President-elect Barack Obama's stimulus plan shows a divided country, with Republicans in a distinct minority and in opposition.

Democrats support the $750-billion plan (67 percent to 19 percent) as do Independents (54 percent to 37 percent). But Republicans stand in opposition (56 percent to 34 percent).

But taking a look at Republican Party reality inside the Washington beltway, we see a rudderless ship, out of touch with the grass roots of its own party.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: leader; rino
A well deserved lecture from Star!


1 posted on 01/12/2009 7:02:07 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Way ahead of you, Star Parker. Switched to Libertarian some time ago.


2 posted on 01/12/2009 7:04:46 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Navy Patriot

I am tired of people saying we should leave. We should force the RINOs out, let them leave. In the big population of our party, RINOs are in the minority, they just have maneuvered to positions of power. We need to take the party back.

History has shown that parties go through a cleansing and a return to their core values once every two decades or so. Momentum shifting to an alternate third party happens about once every couple of centuries. We need another 1979-80 (or 94-96) party cleansing and return to values.


4 posted on 01/12/2009 7:17:07 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Navy Patriot
Kind of hard to argue for fiscal restraint when our own damn party has been spending money like there is no tomorrow.

Bush and the GOP have blown it in so many ways! FOOLS. I'm joining the "Phoenix Party", cause there ain't nothing left but ashes.

5 posted on 01/12/2009 7:17:12 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: Navy Patriot

But taking a look at Republican Party reality inside the Washington beltway, we see a rudderless ship, out of touch with the grass roots of its own party

.....the GOP is the flounder of Animal House.....fat,drunk and stupid.....with apologies to Gov Palin, Fred Thompson and a few others.......


6 posted on 01/12/2009 7:23:30 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Navy Patriot

I TOTALLY agree. I have been whining for months that the Republicans have no leader! The only ones we have are the ones kissing the butt of the Democrats.

So what if we are in the minority! Be a LOUD MINORITY for God sake. Stand up for principles, not what just over 50% of the country wants.

If the Libertarians weren’t so stupid about national security, I’d move on over there.


7 posted on 01/12/2009 7:25:27 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Politicians, most especially those inside the Beltway, remind me of Civil War “Re-Enactors”. They put on a uniform of either blue or gray, stage a battle for the dummies to watch, make sure nobody gets hurt and then go have a few drinks (which we pay for, too). We have a “governing class” of the sort The Founders never wanted.


8 posted on 01/12/2009 7:34:27 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: autumnraine

Actually in a recent poll about 75 percent of Americans do not have any idea how bad of a hole the US is in. This includes many freepers, GOP, Dems and Indies. Today the US government printed and transferred over 10 trillion to keep our banks and insurance companies solvent after the losses in residential mortgage collapse. In 2009 we are facing a commercial real estate collapse of another 10 trillion. That is why many banks are not loaning money because they need the fed money to buffer from the commercial real estate losses impending. Add to that the potential that the aftermarket debt obligation market may also implode. These loan notes involve credit cards, college loans, leverage buy out loans that were resold to investors who used leveraged money to buy them. In 2005 during Congressional hearings, the SEC does not know how big this liability is. Estimates range from 55 trillion to 1 quadrillion in liabilities to banks if this market implodes. Given that with job losses, bankruptcies, if many Americans default on their credit card debts, this potential financial weapon of mass destruction can bring our banks and insurance companies to its knees and the staggering losses are beyond the ability of the US government to cover. In other words, economic and financial collapse of the world financial system once the US system implodes. All these bailouts are means which the US government buys time and maintain social order before some new technology or industry comes along to rescue us and restore the US back to its immenence. No matter who is President (BO or McCain), they are faced with the same economic situation and bailouts to buy time are the only rational steps left for the US to take. Situation reminds me of Germany in 1944, after she loss all her tank reserves and fuel reserves in counter offensives in Russia after the fateful battle of Stalingrad. Faced with grim strategic realities, they kept on fighting hoping to buy time for their “wonder” weapons. Germany ran out of time and was defeated, will the US run out of time too????? Time to stockpile, organize your family and community, time to go into survival mode, because Washington is too far away to save us when the chaos hits.


9 posted on 01/12/2009 7:46:35 AM PST by Fee
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To: mnehrling
I am tired of people saying we should leave. We should force the RINOs out, let them leave. In the big population of our party, RINOs are in the minority, they just have maneuvered to positions of power. We need to take the party back.

This is the correct approach. We are not the minority in the party, and we need to quit acting like we are. RINO's have taken control, but why should we let them control us?

The same thing has happened to a nubmer of mainline protestant churches (United Methodist, PC-USA, Episcopalian). The members remain pretty conservative, but the national leadership has been taken over by liberals (destroying the churches from the top.)

We have a two party system. Trying to form a third party means the liberals win.

10 posted on 01/12/2009 7:53:30 AM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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To: Navy Patriot
we see a rudderless ship, out of touch with the grass roots of its own party

Not out of touch, just indifferent toward grass roots, "leadership" insists it knows best what is good for the party.

The democrats are the same way. Except their leadership is truly criminal on top of that.

11 posted on 01/12/2009 7:53:59 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

We need to realize our party has been infiltrated since buth 41 with those more interested in “power” than truely believing in (because they don’t) and implementing conservtism; they aren’t an opposition: more like “get along, to go along” globalists! I hate them all (politcally): Democrats, most Republicans.


12 posted on 01/12/2009 7:57:21 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: Brookhaven

I know a lot of folks don’t like the two party system, but it is actually human nature to work best with dualities. Male/Female, Black/White, Yin/Yang, On/Off, Left/Right, Up/Down, etc. In decision making process, even when presented with many options, people naturally reduce the choice down to two options, it is just human nature. It is why, when the Republican party was formed, it never was a ‘third party’, as soon as it formed, it’s first national race it was considered a major party and moved the whigs down to third party status.


13 posted on 01/12/2009 8:00:50 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Navy Patriot

Star Parker is a nationally syndicated columnist through the Scripps Howard News Service

and a regular commentator on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX News,

as well as author of White Ghetto: How Middle Class America Reflects Inner City Decay.


Also World Net Daily

See: The Republican Party: In need of a good revolt

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=85734


14 posted on 01/12/2009 8:04:16 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Cheddar Cat
We all need to leave the GOP.

I left in 1990 when it was blatantly obvious that George Herbert Walker Bush made it painfully clear that he had abandoned Reaganomics, and all that Ronald Wilson Reagan did to make this country great again.

What's taking the rest of you so long?

15 posted on 01/12/2009 8:05:33 AM PST by usconservative (My Plan For Government Reform: Hangings on Thursday, Trials on Friday.)
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To: mnehrling
We should force the RINOs out, let them leave.

I believe that is the best course, it would save a well known brand, and high points like Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Reagan.

I suspect it would require permission to be a Republican, and national party control over state primary rules.

President Bush said yesterday that it wasn't American for Republicans to say who could be a Republican. I think you see why I mentioned this. I believe the Republicans should be able to exclude anyone who is un-American.

16 posted on 01/12/2009 8:06:27 AM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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To: Fee

“Time to stockpile, organize your family and community, time to go into survival mode, because Washington is too far away to save us when the chaos hits.”

That’s what mode we are in now. I am (as we speak, well at least when i get done typing this message) boxing canned goods and intend on stockpiling medical supplies too.


17 posted on 01/12/2009 8:10:00 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: mnehrling

“In decision making process, even when presented with many options, people naturally reduce the choice down to two options, it is just human nature”

Our problem is we don’t have two choices! We have the media/corporate/socialist choice.


18 posted on 01/12/2009 8:16:13 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB

People who pay attention know this, but that probably represents 5% of the population. Most of the population sees it as an American Idol contest, you either vote one in or out, and it all comes down tot he final two.


19 posted on 01/12/2009 8:19:09 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Texas Fossil

Star walks the walk.


20 posted on 01/12/2009 8:19:46 AM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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To: mnehrling

We do have a leader, that is Ron Paul. Embrass Ron Paul. While Ron Paul annoys me alot with his foreign policy his national policy is spot on. His views about US not being the world police man isn’t so far from us ya know. The US debt problem is way too large. We don’t have the luxury of the current military spending.


21 posted on 01/12/2009 8:21:46 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: mnehrling
> History has shown that parties go through a cleansing and a return to their core values once every two decades or so. Momentum shifting to an alternate third party happens about once every couple of centuries.

A third party is not the answer.... a REPLACEMENT party is the answer. Let the Republicans (as currently constituted) become the new "third party."

Repubs and Dems were not the original two political parties in this country, and our history is filled with political parties that rose and fell. If the GOP cannot fulfill its promise, then the time has come for the GOP to fall into history's storage bin and let a real conservative party take its place.

22 posted on 01/12/2009 8:22:13 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: mnehrling

Agreed.


23 posted on 01/12/2009 8:25:06 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: mnehrling
when the Republican party was formed, it never was a ‘third party’, as soon as it formed, it’s first national race it was considered a major party and moved the whigs down to third party status.

And was victorious in it's second national race because the Democrats had the "good sense" to split into two parties. Which were the "true Democrats" is open to question, that they lost isn't.

24 posted on 01/12/2009 8:29:08 AM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: Navy Patriot
Where is the Republican leader who is going to challenge the basic premise upon which our president-elect is rationalizing this massive new government intrusion into our economy and our lives?

Long gone. God rest his soul.

25 posted on 01/12/2009 8:30:52 AM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: 4rcane

Oh lord.. well, thanks for the laugh, but the moderate libertarian can lead his merry men of V mask wearing anarchists in circles. He isn’t a leader. Many, many people in politics have been warning about the debt, a leader doesn’t just talk but makes things happen. As Phil Gramm said, Paul can’t even get a bill out of committee because they are so poorly written and lack any detail as to how, they would be impossible to implement.

He isn’t a leader, he is a newsletter writer (except when he says something stupid, then he claims it was ‘ghost written’.)


26 posted on 01/12/2009 8:31:45 AM PST by mnehring
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To: 4rcane
We do have a leader, that is Ron Paul.

A very well financed Ron Paul just made an attempt to lead the GOP, and failed miserably. As he did in his advocacy of the CP, LP and Greens in the general. You must have missed that, time to move on.

27 posted on 01/12/2009 8:37:28 AM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson; 4rcane
The future of the GOP leadership? I don't think so..


28 posted on 01/12/2009 8:40:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: JSDude1
We need to realize our party has been infiltrated since buth 41 with those more interested in “power” than truely believing in (because they don’t) and implementing conservtism;

Bingo! Anyone who expected less from GW, were foolish. He was perceived as the lesser of two evils, now, I am not at all sure that was true.

The Apple just didn't fall far enough from the tree.

29 posted on 01/12/2009 1:22:39 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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