*SEVERE SPACE WEATHER:*

Spaceweather ^ | Jan 6th, 2009

[TaraP]

SEVERE SPACE WEATHER: The National Academy of Sciences has just released the results of a study entitled Severe Space Weather Events--Understanding Societal and Economic Impacts. The 132-page document examines what might happen to our high-tech modern society in the event of a super solar flare followed by an extreme geomagnetic storm. Such a storm did occur in the year 1859. It electrified telegraph lines, shocking technicians and setting telegraph papers on fire; Northern Lights as far south as Cuba were so bright, you could read a newspaper by their eerie glow."

According to the report, "a contemporary repetition of that event would cause significantly more extensive (and possibly catastrophic) social and economic disruptions." The report warns of widespread failures in telecommunications, electric power, banking and finance, and transportation; even water supplies could be disrupted. The total economic impact in the first year alone could reach $2 trillion--about 15 times greater than the costs of Hurricane Katrina. Depending on damage, full recovery from the solar storm could take 4 to 6 years.

No one knows how often super solar storms occur. We've only seen one like it in the past 200 years. The next one could be another 200 years away--or just 200 days. All the more reason to study space weather!

[TaraP]

TODAY JAN 6th NO SUNSPOTS

[PBRSTREETGANG]

The total economic impact in the first year alone could reach $2 trillion...

So, it won't be as bad as Wall Street then.

[Bean Counter]

[ZX12R]

I don’t think we’ll have to worry about this anytime soon. Maybe after the sun awakes from it’s slumber, but it doesn’t seem to be in any hurry.

[w1andsodidwe]

Does this mean, I need to get a better surge protector?

[neodad]

Rove!

[Myrddin]

If we don't get a sunspot cycle going soon, we'll face the prospects of an ice age. That has a major impact on food production.

[silverleaf]

It’s a gamma ray burst that will fry us some day.
no warning- zzzzzzap

[listenhillary]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

[TaraP]

SOLAR BLAST: No sunspots? Yesterday the blank sun unleashed a solar flare without the usual aid of a sunspot. At 1408 UT on April 26th, Earth-orbiting satellites detected a surge of X-rays registering B3.8 on the Richter scale of solar flares. Shortly thereafter, SOHO coronagraphs photographed a coronal mass ejection (CME) billowing away from the sun:

The expanding cloud could deliver a glancing blow to Earth’s magnetic field late on April 28th or 29th. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras when it arrives.

This strange solar flare came from a patch of sun (N08,E08) where magnetic fields were not intense enough to form a visible sunspot (sunspots are made of magnetism). Nevertheless, magnetic fields were present with sufficient energy and instability to produce a powerful explosion. NASA’s twin STEREO spacecraft, observing the sun from widely separated vantage points, recorded a million mph shock wave or “solar tsunami” spreading from the blast site through the sun’s atmosphere:

[DYngbld]

My "double decker, super dooper, triple doppler storm tracker" radar doesn't reach the sun.

Somehow the GOP will get the blame for it.

[TaraP]

Supporting Data for “Resurrection Auroras”
By Steve Santini....

“There is a correlation between heightened sunspot activity and increased earthquake activity, especially during one of each month’s two earth-sun-moon alignments resulting in either a completely dark moon or full moon. Why the correlation between heightened sunspot activity and increased numbers of earthquakes?” Resurrection Auroras

Notice the correlation is not between the numbers of sunspots but the activity of those sunspots that are present. Heightened activity is defined in the above sentence as earth directed M and X class solar flares.

The following material supports the thesis that the two earthquakes each at Jesus’ death and at his resurrection were catalyzed by energy originating from one or more beta-gamma-delta sunspots as a CME that disrupted the magnetosphere, penetrated, at least in part, the atmosphere and either discharged at ground level or within the earth along the east west fault line that that runs down across the Mount of Olives through Jerusalem.

As one may recall from the article that on the day of Jesus’ crucifixion on the Mount of Olives the sun suddenly became darkened by hyper sunspot activity[1] and that the moon became its fullest during that month.

[ASOC]

20M was open for a bit yesterday - heard some OH and UAs.

The piece sounds like a NASA rice bowl promotion.

The ‘bama must have them shaking in thier (moon) boots.

[gridlock]

No one knows how often super solar storms occur.

They happen when too many Americans drive SUVs, of course...

[VaBthang4]

"The 132-page document examines what might happen to ou...."

Yawn.

[DYngbld]

I haven’t heard anything on 20M in a while. Will be nice to have some of the bands back.

[gridlock]

You all be hatin’ on my tin-foil hat. But when the Solar Super Storm happens, who’s gonna be laughin’ then?

[ZX12R]

If we don't get a sunspot cycle going soon, we'll face the prospects of an ice age. That has a major impact on food production.

There's no doubt that we should fear getting colder, more than getting warmer.

[Thrownatbirth]

I use GasFET surge protectors for my ham radios. A little more expensive but worth it.

[listenhillary]

My house is a Faraday cage, so as long as I’m at home when it happens I’ll be fine. I need to make sure the cars are in the garage.

Excuse me while I go rotate my dry goods and start my methane/ng/alchohol powered generator and change the water in the holding tanks.

(Wish I was this prepared!)

[Old Professer]

“Invisible” sunspots? That explains the accelerated global warming going on right now.

[TaraP]

I find this an interesting article by Dan Eden on this Subject... Let's begin back in the 1960s with the Apollo 11 manned landing on the moon. On one of their EVA's (extra-vehicular aqtivities), the astronauts photographed and took samples from some small craters, about 20cm to 1.5 meters across. When they examined the floors of these craters they noticed what looked like glazed donuts. These were actually chunks of moon dirt that were coated by glass. The glazed areas are clearly concentrated toward the top surfaces of protuberances, although they exist also on some sides. Points and edges appear to be strongly favored for the glazing process. In some cases, droplets appear to have run down an inclined surface for a few millimeters and congealed there. [1] Hardly anyone in the general public was made aware of this discovery and, even if they were, thay could hardly have realized the significance. But in 1969, an article in Science by T. Gold [1] proposed a theory of how they were made. Glass, as we know, is made from melting sand. It occurs natually near sources of high temperature, such as volcanos and meteor impacts. The atom bomb tests in New Mexico's White Sands area produced a small "lake" of glass at ground zero. So it was never a question about the lunar glass also having been created by something very hot. He said regarding 2012 Although "doomsday" is frequently linked with the Mayan calendar, this is just coincidental. December 12, 2012 is a significant day in astronomy because of a number of important events that will impact our Sun. It would be a "doomsday" even if we never knew about the Mayan calendar. Yet, the more we understand this ancient civilization and appreciate their knowledge of astronomy, we must assume they knew this date to be auspicious

[ASOC]

If things get as bad as the piece laid out, I could work Fl on 2M.

20 opens for a bit right after local noon - I have a nue-psk system I am itching to try out....

[alexander_busek]

December 12, 2012 is a significant day in astronomy because of a number of important events that will impact our Sun.

Thank you for listing those "important events" so that we would know what you're talking about!

Oh, wait a minute! You didn't do that!

Regards,

[xone]

Jesus’ crucifixion on the Mount of Olives

Did they move that venue again?

[TaraP]

Just pondering all of the evidence that is out there that might be impacting our sun....

[tet68]

Does this mean, I need to get a better surge protector?

Don’t buy any of those DNC made ones, they don’t work.

[polymuser]

my methane/ng/alchohol powered generator

An econobox 4-cylinder converted to steam with a pto generator is good, too.

[silverleaf]

interesting item about the moon
- solar flares or other form of heat?

http://www.jrmooneyham.com/ctctgam.html

We didn't even know about gamma ray bursts before the 1960’s- now there are speculations earth has been blasted in the past accounting for numerous extinction events

next one to come?
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23310103-5001021,00.html

[Scythian]

NASA's STEREO (Ahead) spacecraft observed this visually stunning prominence eruption on Sept. 29, 2008 in the 304 wavelength of extreme UV light. It rose up and cascaded to the right over several hours, appearing something like a flag unfurling, as it broke apart and headed into space. The material observed is actually ionized Helium at about 60,000 degrees. Prominences are relatively cool clouds of gas suspended above the Sun and controlled by magnetic forces. (NASA/STEREO) #

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/10/the_sun.html

[Myrddin]

Did you notice the date? April 26th. Not particularly current. If the sunspots continue at zero and the magnetsphere of the sun and earth continue the current decline, an earth directed CME could make it all the way to the surface. That would not be good.

It's been 2 years since the last good aurora was visible in the Pocatello area. It was a clear night in late December 2006. The sky was full of green shimmering "curtains" and "rays" of green light like rays of sunshine through a break in the clouds. Very pretty.

[silverleaf]

You call that a burst of energy?
THIS is a burst of energy!

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/descriptions/GRBstar2.html
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/Videos/news/GRBstar2.mov

Gamma-ray bursts can release more energy in 10 seconds than the Sun will emit in its entire 10 billion-year lifetime!

So far, it appears that all of the bursts we have observed have come from outside the Milky Way Galaxy. Scientists believe that a gamma-ray burst will occur once every few million years here in the Milky Way, and in fact may occur once every several hundred million years within a few thousand light-years of Earth.

WE ARE OVERDUE!

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/swift/bursts/naked_eye_release.html

[topcat54]

Supporting Data for “Resurrection Auroras” By Steve Santini....

No offense, but it looks flakey to me. Where’s the “data”?

The following material supports the thesis that the two earthquakes each at Jesus’ death and at his resurrection were catalyzed by energy originating from one or more beta-gamma-delta sunspots as a CME that disrupted the magnetosphere,

Sure it does.

There’s nothing biblical to refute here. Back in the ‘60s we would have attributed such writing to illegal drugs usage, esp. hallucinogens.

We’re still waiting for you to make a biblical case for all this speculation. Appealing to questionable, fringe ideas is not making the case at all.

[Scythian]

Hey, I’m all for a mega burst, I hope it knocks out all cell phones permanently

[TaraP]

You said *Earthquakes* have nothing to do with the 2nd Coming of Christ...I am just saying what would the correlation be between that article and the Gospel of Matthew..
Matthew 24:7
For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes....

[topcat54]

You said *Earthquakes* have nothing to do with the 2nd Coming of Christ...I am just saying what would the correlation be between that article and the Gospel of Matthew..
Matthew 24:7
For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes....

But Matthew 24:7 is not referring to the Second Coming. It is referring to the events that would come upon “this generation” by which we understand Jesus to be speaking of the contemporary generation of Jews in the 1st century that would experience the “days of vengeance” (Luke 21:22).

Jesus told His disciple to flee to the mountains when they saw Jerusalem “surrounded by armies” (Luke 21:20). The parallel passage in Matthew 24 identifies this as the “abomination of desolation” when the armies approach Jerusalem to defile and destroy the temple. This is precisely what happened in AD70. Jesus was speaking personally to His disciples when He told them:

See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.

Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place … then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath.

The earthquakes of Matthew 24 are in the past, not in our future.

[TaraP]

So then what scriptures tell us (Our Generation) about Jesus Christ’s return to earth?

[Lurker]

So then what scriptures tell us (Our Generation) about Jesus Christ’s return to earth?

That he's gonna be pissed.

L

[MD_Willington_1976]

No kidding... this sucks...

[topcat54]

So then what scriptures tell us (Our Generation) about Jesus Christ’s return to earth?

“But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. ... Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. ” (Matt. 24:37,42)

“Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.” (Matt. 25:13)

“For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day.” (Luke 17:24)

“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.” (1 Cor. 15:22-25)

“For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Is it not even you in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His coming?” (1 Thess. 2:19)

“For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.” (1 Thess. 4:15)

“Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.” (2 Thess. 2:1,2)

“I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:” (2 Tim. 4:1)

“looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,” (Titus 2:13)

And some others.

[MD_Willington_1976]

I’m over near Pullman/Moscow, and I remember that stuff a couple of years back...

[poindexters brother]

There it is....

Global Warming is now affecting space weather.

/sarc