Palestinian "civillians" .
Posted on 01/05/2009 11:50:56 AM PST by LdSentinal
Outspoken Republican congressman Ron Paul says Israel had received a green light from the United States to launch an offensive in Gaza.
The Texas congressman said the Israeli attack on the impoverished Gaza Strip shapes a bleak future for the whole world as it means that, "the whole idea of preemptive or preventive war is spreading."
He went on to challenge the idea of Hamas threatening Israel's security and argued that "Palestinian missiles are so minor compared to the fire power of Israel, who has nuclear weapons."
The US Congressman's remarks come as Israel continues to rebuff international efforts to end the assault on Gaza, and Israeli troops and tanks -- protected by heavy air, sea and artillery fire - have sliced through the center of Gaza and surrounded the main city.
The tenth day of the assault brings the number of Palestinian casualties to 530 with over 2,600 others wounded. The UN says that about 25 percent of the casualties were civilian deaths.
Paul added that the escalation of war in Gaza would contribute to the fall of economy on the global stage and in the US, explaining that the US involvement in too many wars is "draining us emotionally and financially".
Congressman Paul said that even though Israel has carried out the invasion of Gaza, "the United States will be blamed for it."
"Israel depends on us; they depend on us economically, they depend on us for their military power and all their weapons and they really got a green light from our administration," he explained.
Paul's comment comes after US vice president Dick Cheney said Israel did not seek Washington's approval for launching an offensive against Gaza.
"They didn't seek clearance or approval from us, certainly," Cheney said Sunday.
Earlier on Saturday, the Israeli website Debkafile cited sources in Washington as saying that US President George W. Bush had given a green light to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for an all-out military operation in Gaza.
The GOP congressman also warned in July, that any Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear facilities would take place with the explicit backing of the US government.
Paul told Press TV that, "No matter what they do, it is our money, it is our weapons, and they are not going to do it without us approving it."
Ron Paul is as blind as Nat Hentoff.
Yep, being shot at for months by rockets, having your kindergartens blown up, kidnapping your soldiers, sending down's syndrome children into cafes with bombs strapped to them.. that isn't justification for war in Paul's world, nope, it is 'preemptive war'.... jeeze...
Can not back RP on that BS. Maybe he would like a few rockets around his area every day.
“the whole idea of preemptive or preventive war is spreading.”
Let’s see, Hamas launches rocket into Israel. Israel responds. That is called “preemptive or preventive war”???
Is there more propaganda you would like to publish from Iran.
Who do I trust, Cheney or Paul? No brainer I guess.
Tell that to the families of the victims of Palestinian missiles that have died over the last two years.
Is Ron Paul HIGH??? This is from The Onion right? sarcasm on.
Uh, Ron Paul gave this interview to this propoganda outlet.
I'll look to see if Ron Paul was wearing his Nazi uniform when giving this interview.
Wow, I really dislike Ron Paul.
Since the definition of casualties include both the dead and wounded, the UN is saying that:
civilian deaths = 0.25 x (dead + wounded)So of the 530 Palis killed in this attack, 783 of them were civilians.= 0.25 x (530 + 2600)
= 783.
I love UN math.
You a Mormon, Bro?
If RP really said that he is an idiot. I agree with his monetary policies, but he is out to lunch on Israel.
Sure...we know Ron Paul has top-top clearance and he was told, "We're giving Israel the green light to bomb Gaza, Iran and anyone else they want before we leave office. Sure, sorry we have to go up against your objections to this, Ronnie Boy." sarc/
“The Texas congressman said the Israeli attack on the impoverished Gaza Strip shapes a bleak future for the whole world as it means that, “the whole idea of preemptive or preventive war is spreading.””
Preemptive? The palestinians are attacking them daily!
This is just one of the things where Paul falls off the wagon.
He managed to screw up the primary with his blind sided worshipers, now he just needs to shut up.
I'm sorry you support a Hamas/Al-Queda lover.
From the article:
Paul told Press TV...
Maybe Paul should quit giving Iranian Government propoganda soundbytes?
Preemptive war?
I swear this guy is freaking batty.
It saddens me that Paul has come up with a philosophy that asserts that it is OK for Hamas to kill Jewish children with impunity, IF they use less powerful weapons than those in possession of the IDF.
Western civilization will die by suicide.
Even though I have agreed with some things that Ron Paul has advocated this is exactly why I could never support him. He is so off the beam on these issues. Preemptive war? This is a bizarre comment. Did anyone see the interview with the son of a Hamas leader on Fox? Clearly Ron Paul and those that think like him did not.
This is classic Alex Jones/tin-foil-hat stuff.
Only one of the two can present evidence, and that is Mr. Paul, and that's what he needs to do if he wishes to be taken seriously.
As far as dismissing weeks of random rocket attacks as inconsequential he is perfectly free to live under them himself and see. But you can see here that he's bought the case presented by his supposed arch enemies, the globalists - Israel should tolerate these attacks because it's big and strong and the attackers only kill a few people. Shame on Mr. Paul for failing to adhere to his own principles.
According to this nitwitthe US would not be allowed to attack any country if they attacked us first.
The whole ME is a big rat whole. Biblical in nature. There will never be peace there. Not until end times.
I’m tired of sending money there. They will always hate us. No matter how money people we feed or take care off they will always hate US.
Israel needs to do what it has to do. Thats all. I didn’t say I supported RP on this. I only said no Politician is perfect.
Ron Paul = kook preaching to moonbats. Nobody with any intelligence really listenes to this idiot.
I wonder how Ron Paul the lunatic would like it if his neighbors launched missles at his house day in, day out.
Ron Paul has always been pro palestinian/arab.....why do you think they gave him such support in the primary?
Ron Paul is being praised by the Muslims......guess that vote he gave for Ramadan declaring Islam a religion of peace worked for him......
“The resolution recognized “the Islamic faith as one of the great religions of the world,” rejected “hatred, bigotry and violence directed against Muslims, both in the United States and worldwide”
By James Zogby
“LAST weekend, most of the Democratic presidential candidates addressed remarks to a gathering of Arab American leaders assembled at their Quadrennial National Leadership Conference (NLC) in Michigan. An examination of how each of them dealt with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict proved to be quite revealing. But first, to set the context. Over 600 Arab Americans gathered for this year’s NLC, sponsored by the Arab American Institute. Among the bi-partisan group were Arab American elected officials and party leaders, and representatives of 41 organizations from 20 states. During the three-day meeting, they discussed key domestic and foreign policy issues, and took a long hard look at how best to prepare and position the community for the 2008 contest.
All of the presidential candidates were invited to speak or send representatives, and some did. On the Republican side, only Texas Congressman Ron Paul responded, delivering remarks that touched on many of the community’s concerns. Paul spoke critically of the Bush Administration’s adventure in Iraq and its failure to pursue an “even-handed” policy with regard to the Arab-Israeli conflict. His comments were well-received. The fact that none of the other Republicans responded was disappointing to some, but not surprising, since too many of them have rhetorically boxed themselves in with hostile positions on civil liberties, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the Mideast in general.
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Ron++Paul+Palestine
He would say it is Bush and NeoCon's fault, a plan drummed up by the CFR, and the only way out is for the US to apologize and buy gold from companies he owns stock in..
RP needs to stick to domestic issues, where he makes sense.
dr paul has lost it. He should have been warned that some his supporters just liked him because he was not Bush, they never looked at his actual policies. I am talking about the idiot liberals. dr paul does not need to cater to that crowd.
RP reminds us once again why he is called the “nutcase”.
The GOP and president Bush, Condi, sent millions to the PA. They built bombs with the money.
RP reminds us once again why he is called the “nutcase”.
There is a lot to like about Paul when it comes to economic issues and government power/size of government issues, but...
His attitude when it comes to Israeli/Palistenian issues goes beyond a missunderstanding or even willing blindness; it is an out right bias against Israel.
I could support Paul, save for this one flaw. And it is a huge flaw in my book.
” wonder how Ron Paul the lunatic would like it if his neighbors launched missles at his house day in, day out.”
Ron Paul’s house is covered with a special protective aluminium foil shield that would prevent such attacks, including ones from space aliens and the Illuminati.
I remember when that came up and we searched for old bills and found one from several years ago where he voted against a statement of recognition for Hanukkah saying it is not the government's place to promote religion.. Guess if it is for an Islamic holiday it is simply a statement, but if for a Jewish holiday, it is a Constitutional crisis that must be avoided.
His whole career reads like satire, if you've followed it. Which is why some of us have a hard time believing RP has supporters on this forum. Still.
Preemptive it is not, but the Israeli response is vastly disproportionate. Let us hope the ground assault will better discriminate between civilians and militants, than the aerial bombardment has been.
Paul is correct that the US will be blamed.
Yeah but they are only minor little rockets. Not like those big evil ones those Jews have.
Yes, that’s the way I remember it too.
I'm sure his supporters here on FR, would tell you that Ron Paul would use the "Letter of Marque" against his foes. Yes, this useless 18th Century antiquated writ is what replaces testicles for the Paulhroids.
“Paul is correct that the US will be blamed.”
That’s a given! Especially with clowns like Paul getting out there to make sure!
Palestinian "civillians" .
Of course he did. Ron Paul is the only one who specifically voted NOT to condemn rocket attacks on Israel.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll093.xml
4 voted “present”
19 did not vote
Ron Paul is the only one who voted NO
This is a perfect example of why I could not ever take him seriously as a POTUS candidate, and have disdain for the Reps who do.
After they where celebrating 9/11 like it was a holiday I don’t feel sorry for them.. The Iraqis yes, the Syrians yes, the Jordanians yes, the Iranians yes.. The Palestianians no..
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