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For sheer ignorance, stupidity and effrontery, nothing excels (I hate that word!) better than Michael Lerner's insane scribblings on Israel and Operation Cast Lead! What kind of dope do they consume at Tikkun these days? If you ever needed any proof that liberalism is a form of mental illness, this is it! Oh and don't read this unless you have a very strong stomach. It deserves the MEGABARF warning for reasons y'all will understand from the first paragraph onwards. And yes, this leftist is not only a self-hating Jew, he's a Charter Member Of The Jews For A Second Holocaust.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 01/04/2009 4:13:34 PM PST by goldstategop
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But the kind of response matters. Killing 500 Palestinians and wounding 2,000 others (at the time of writing) is disproportionate. How very absurd and pedestrian. It's war--if you want to stop the enemy, the most effective way of accomplishing it is to kill them. War doesn't work when tallied on a scorecard.
57 posted on 01/04/2009 5:24:08 PM PST by The Toad
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some days i think the left is stupid,
some days i think they are evil
and most i think both.
gosh, i hate those @#%#$.


60 posted on 01/04/2009 5:44:16 PM PST by genghis
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Michael Lerner is a leftist lunatic. He is a pro-Palastinian propagandist. How can people talk about proportionality of response when Hamas has never stopped sending missles into Israel trying to kill as many Israelis as possible. They make no distinction between women and children. Their targets are civilians.

Now Israel has been forced to try to eliminate Hamas as a threat. It remains to be seen whether they will be successful, but this garbage about Palastinian civilians is intolerable. There is no way to seperate Hamas terrorists from so called civilians. Everybody knows that.

These creeps in the media know it. Even the so called fair and balanced Fox News is hammering that theme. Israel is on its own now. The United States has been telling them for decades not to respond too strenuously when they engage Hamas. What we have is a world full of hypocrites who really just wish that Israel cease to exist.

It would make perfect sense to me if Israel finally said that they are doomed as a nation over the long run and all stops are removed. They should use any means necessary to destroy those Muslim monsters who want them dead. If they are doomed anyway why not go out with a bang?

As far as the repercussions for the Middle East and even for America, that will not be their problem.


62 posted on 01/04/2009 5:46:11 PM PST by SkipW
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Killing 500 Palestinians and wounding 2,000 others (at the time of writing) is disproportionate.

The entire concept of proportional response in war is a sick and perverted doctrine of sado-masochists and enemy propagandists. It only ensures that a conflict is never ending.

So which is Michael Lerner?

64 posted on 01/04/2009 5:51:41 PM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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Killing 500 Palestinians and wounding 2,000 others (at the time of writing) is disproportionate.

Gotta agree here. Israel should kill them all

65 posted on 01/04/2009 6:02:08 PM PST by Graybeard58
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Michael Lerner's insane scribblings on Israel and Operation Cast Lead!

Terrorism is by definition, asymmetric.

67 posted on 01/04/2009 6:06:39 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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Yes, Lerner is a moron.

But worse, Lerner is dishonest. Lerner is certainly aware that Israel has been tipping off the Palestinian civilians about impending strikes, and he is also aware that the Hamas terrorists quite deliberately use civilian women and children as shields for themselves and their armaments, and those shields then serve double duty as propaganda fodder after they are killed. ...Just the way Hamas has planned it.

The Israelis have rightly decided to tell the Euro-socialists and American liberals (like Lerner) to drop dead because Israel is finally going to do what must be done - - eradicate the terrorist threat, relentlessly, mercilessly, and thoroughly. To do anything less would be stupid.


68 posted on 01/04/2009 6:18:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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"Killing 500 Palestinians and wounding 2,000 others (at the time of writing) is disproportionate. Hamas can harass, but it cannot pose any threat to the existence of Israel."

Since Israel has sent warnings to these folks before they bomb, there shouldn't have been ANY people killed. Hamas leaders are willing to keep people in places they know will be attacked, because they WANT those bloodied bodies to show on TV.

And yes, Hamas CAN do harm to Israel, by trying to manipulate media coverage to THEIR cause, and against Israel, which only encourages more attacks by crazed Muslims.

69 posted on 01/04/2009 6:21:58 PM PST by SuziQ
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The most significant contribution the new Obama administration could make to Middle East peace would be to embrace a strategy that homeland security is best achieved not by military or economic domination but by generosity and caring for others.

Hold onto your wallet! Here comes Zero and Lerner and all the rest of the socialist scumbags to steal whatever they can get their filthy paws on.

70 posted on 01/04/2009 6:34:13 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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A proportionate war is a perpetual war.

Everyone that considers starting a conflict should be very concerned about disproportionate responses.


76 posted on 01/04/2009 7:46:09 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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77 posted on 01/04/2009 10:27:40 PM PST by XR7
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Michael Lerner remains an arrogant fool. It is obscene that the word “rabbi” has ever been associated with this piece of work.


79 posted on 01/04/2009 11:08:30 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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Anyone claiming ‘measured’ response hasn’t a clue how to fight a war.

They come at you with fists, you bring a club.
They pull a knife, you pull a gun.

The only correct response is one where the enemy never wants to mess with you again.

JB


80 posted on 01/05/2009 4:52:35 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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