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6 out of 10 servicemen wary of Obama in charge
WorldNetDaily ^ | January 03, 2009 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 01/03/2009 9:12:03 AM PST by RobinMasters

A recent Military Times survey of active-duty service members found 6 of 10 U.S. soldiers polled said they were "pessimistic" or "uncertain" about Barack Obama serving as commander in chief of America's armed forces.

In follow-up interviews reported by the Army Times newspaper, respondents cited Obama's inexperience in leading soldiers, his plans for accelerated removal of troops from Iraq and his pledge to overturn the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding homosexual service members as reasons for their cautious outlook.

"Being that the Marine Corps can be sent anywhere in the world with the snap of his fingers," said one lance corporal who asked not to be identified, "nobody has confidence in this guy as commander in chief."

"How are you going to safely pull combat troops out of Iraq?" asked Air Force 1st Lt. Rachel Kleinpeter, an intelligence officer with the 100th Operations Support Squadron. "And if you're pulling out combat troops, who are you leaving to help support what's left? What happens if Iraq falls back into chaos? Are we going to be there in five years doing the same thing over again?"

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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1 posted on 01/03/2009 9:12:04 AM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Only six out of ten?


2 posted on 01/03/2009 9:18:52 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: RobinMasters

I wonder if it was wise for the article to fully identify Air Force 1st Lt. Rachel Kleinpeter?

I think they might just have tipped her in the poo with her new Commander-in-Cheat.


3 posted on 01/03/2009 9:18:52 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: RobinMasters
"nobody has confidence in this guy as commander in chief."

What? No confidence in a racist, American hating, hallicunating, naraccistic megalomaniac with no experience running anything, and nobody in the entire world knows what he really believes? Jeesh.
4 posted on 01/03/2009 9:19:43 AM PST by Vision ("Test everything. Hold on to the Good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21)
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You can’t make this stuff up folks.


5 posted on 01/03/2009 9:20:01 AM PST by Vision ("Test everything. Hold on to the Good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21)
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To: RobinMasters

There is a reason they said 6 of 10. The percentage would be 69% if counted correctly.


6 posted on 01/03/2009 9:21:37 AM PST by BOATSNM8
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“I think they might just have tipped her in the poo with her new Commander-in-Cheat.”

The sad thing is it would’nt surprise anyone at all that he’d go after her. Most or all of the people around him are angry and small enough to do exactly that.


7 posted on 01/03/2009 9:23:07 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: RobinMasters

It is obvious to 6 out of 10 servicemen that Obama, too, will be a puppet of Soros/DNC. Who would want to serve a Russian control freak or the self-aggrandising DNC “royalty”?

It is also obvious that 4 out of 10 servicemen are brainwashed or not the brightest bulbs in the pack.


8 posted on 01/03/2009 9:23:32 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: RobinMasters
6 out of 10 servicemen wary of Obama in charge

The other four were too polite to answer.

9 posted on 01/03/2009 9:24:06 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: RobinMasters
Quite honestly, it does not matter what they think of the CinC. This is why we have a civilian CinC position (as the POTUS). It is more important for Obama to have confidence in the military than it is for them to have confidence in him. Their (the military's) job is to follow orders. Period. The people have made their choice, they may or may not like it, but they have to suck it up and do their job.

God Bless America.

10 posted on 01/03/2009 9:26:13 AM PST by nwrep
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To: TalBlack

Isn’t the Army Times owned by Gannett? They want to harm her.


11 posted on 01/03/2009 9:26:19 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: RobinMasters
It is extremely disconcerting that we are now heading back to the directionless type of leadership we had to go through with Clinton.

President Bush has not been afraid to do what has been right for this country and the world in general. He has the strength of his convictions...just like Reagan did. Obama will sweep things under the rug and leave a nightmare for the next president to handle.

Military members have plenty to be concerned about. They will willingly fight for a just cause, but not for photo-op leader. I am afraid the retention rate of our most promising military leaders will go down in the next few years.

12 posted on 01/03/2009 9:30:29 AM PST by Swede Girl
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To: RobinMasters

Let’s see if they vote with their feet...


13 posted on 01/03/2009 9:32:39 AM PST by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: TaxRelief
It is also obvious that 4 out of 10 servicemen are brainwashed or not the brightest bulbs in the pack.

I'd give a little thought about that broad brush statement towards 40% of our troops.

For all you know the other 4 out of ten said they would resign.

14 posted on 01/03/2009 9:33:54 AM PST by Syncro (Mi TagLine)
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To: null and void
The Army Times generally has a conservative slant, so the readership is probably more conservative, as well.

Furthermore, there wasn't a poll taken. Just folks writing in. That's hardly scientific.

Personally, I think it's fewer than six out of ten.

15 posted on 01/03/2009 9:34:59 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: null and void

yeah, sounds fishy to me.


16 posted on 01/03/2009 9:35:48 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: null and void
"Only six out of ten?"

And the other four will probably flunk their next urinalysis and be booted out the the service for use of illegal drugs.

17 posted on 01/03/2009 9:35:56 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Vision

Great post. I would resign my commission if this idiot BHO was my CIC. Only the suck ups and AA officers looking for stars and eagles wings will hang around.


18 posted on 01/03/2009 9:40:06 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: RobinMasters

But the other 4 / 10 elected him ;)


19 posted on 01/03/2009 9:44:56 AM PST by Libertina
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To: DJ Taylor

No those are the subscribers who failed to repair/ excuse me- reply.


20 posted on 01/03/2009 9:45:29 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: Texas_shutterbug
Personally, I think it's fewer than six out of ten.

I don't think 'wary' means what you think it means...

21 posted on 01/03/2009 9:46:44 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: Lumper20
Great post. I would resign my commission if this idiot BHO was my CIC.

THAT, my FRiend, is precisely what I suspect that Marxist Obama and his BFF Ayers want to happen!

(So the truly American troops can be replaced by a malignant fifth column.)

We need to encourage our precious men and women in uniform to weather the storm.

.

22 posted on 01/03/2009 9:50:09 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: nwrep
they have to suck it up and do their job.

Until the nearest opportunity to get the hell out of a military commanded by a jackass who refuses to prove he's an American citizen for the $10 price of a copy of his long-form birth certificate.

23 posted on 01/03/2009 9:51:18 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: RobinMasters

And four out of ten lie to pollsters.


24 posted on 01/03/2009 9:51:34 AM PST by Puddleglum (this space for rent)
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To: Syncro

I wonder the definition of “servicemen”?


25 posted on 01/03/2009 9:55:20 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: null and void

Oh just ignore Texas_Shutterbug. She adores Obama.


26 posted on 01/03/2009 9:55:36 AM PST by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: TaxRelief; null and void; RobinMasters

Correction: Soros is Jewish-Hungarian according to Wiki.


27 posted on 01/03/2009 9:57:28 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: rom

*shrug* somebody has too.


28 posted on 01/03/2009 9:59:54 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: null and void

has TO.

*sigh*


29 posted on 01/03/2009 10:00:18 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: Seaplaner
We need to encourage our precious men and women in uniform to weather the storm.

I disagree.

This was not an accident. An ignorant majority put a communist in charge of the U.S. government.

Stupid is hard to cure. If you don't have to obey stupid, get the hell away from stupid.

Stupid gets you killed when you are in the military.

How long would you have career military people take orders from someone who hates America and mocks the U.S. Constitution and the founding principles of the United States of America?

How long would you have courageous military people serve an inexperienced incompetent who is on record as having publicly accused them of "air raiding villages and killing civilians?"

30 posted on 01/03/2009 10:01:15 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Lumper20
I would resign my commission if this idiot BHO was my CIC. Only the suck ups and AA officers looking for stars and eagles wings will hang around.

Glad you're not an officer. We serve the country, not the man. It makes no difference to my duty whether Obama or Clinton or McCain or Bush are president.

Any officer who would resign his commission because of partisan political affiliation is not worthy of that commission.

31 posted on 01/03/2009 10:06:01 AM PST by jude24
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To: RobinMasters

obama is well aware of this. One of the reasons he wanted his own military force.


32 posted on 01/03/2009 10:06:28 AM PST by mojitojoe
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To: TaxRelief
What did it mean to you?
33 posted on 01/03/2009 10:07:17 AM PST by Syncro (Mi TagLine)
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To: Syncro

Any one in the employ of the service branches of the US govt or National Guard, ATF, NSA, FBI, CIA, Secret Service, Park service rangers.. and on, and on?


34 posted on 01/03/2009 10:14:22 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: RobinMasters

I know some Navy people who despise the O. Ask them what they think about him, and that sailor’s language flows. We are going to need military people who won’t bend over for the O’s Communist takeover.


35 posted on 01/03/2009 10:14:47 AM PST by pallis
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To: jude24

OTOH Lots of good officers followed Hitler, didn’t they?

At Nuremberg they blandly said that they were just following orders.

You might want to keep that phrase in mind.

Maybe it will work next time...


36 posted on 01/03/2009 10:15:38 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: nwrep
Their (the military's) job is to follow orders. Period. True, but military members are not slaves. When they see their budget cut, salary increases tabled, their benefits dwindle, and their accomplishments marginalized and undercut, how many will opt out? I suggest that is will be a substantial number. The possibility that follows is even more frightening - who will replace them? Even now we are seeing the results of lowering standards for enlistment. Any military members want to respond?
37 posted on 01/03/2009 10:18:20 AM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: null and void
OTOH Lots of good officers followed Hitler, didn’t they?

If and when Obama commands illegal orders, then we can talk about that. Up until that point, you are nothing more than a whining crybaby, irritated that you lost a democratically run election.

38 posted on 01/03/2009 10:19:44 AM PST by jude24
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To: Texas_shutterbug

Sorry but the Army Times used to be more conservative, but lately, as with virtually all print media, it has tilted heavily to the left. If they rounded this survey properly, it would be reported as 7 of 10 which would be just about right. Between the libs (yes unfortunately there are liberals even in the military) and African-Americans practicing identity politics 3 in 10 supporters sounds about right.

My husband is in the military, serving in Iraq right now, and based on his 25 years in the military, I think your assessment is erroneous.


39 posted on 01/03/2009 10:24:26 AM PST by GatorGirl (Don't Blame Me, I Voted McCain!)
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To: TaxRelief
Oh.

I thought you were referring to active-duty service members (that would be troops) as that is what the article was talking about.

That's who this is about, not the plethora of employees you cite.

40 posted on 01/03/2009 10:26:26 AM PST by Syncro (Mi TagLine)
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To: jude24
That is of course good military ethics in the best of all possible worlds. I have to wonder what my decision would be if I thought that the CiC’s leadership was going to get my soldiers killed - or prosecuted for war crimes. I'm just a military wife (ret) and teacher - what do I know?
41 posted on 01/03/2009 10:26:45 AM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: Syncro
The sixth annual Military Times survey asked over 30,000 subscribers to Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times newspapers, "How do you feel about President-elect Barack Obama as commander in chief?"

A total of 5,181 active-duty, National Guard and reserve and retired military subscribers responded to the email invitation issued from Dec. 1 to Dec. 8.

Of the 1,947 active-duty soldiers that responded, a third answered that they are "optimistic," while 25 percent answered "pessimistic" and 35 percent admitted to being "uncertain." The "uncertain" response differs from "no opinion," which garnered 8 percent of the vote.

Other survey results found that nearly 80 percent of the respondents support the war in Afghanistan and nearly the same amount favor increasing troop strength there, though 30 percent believe it may take more than 10 years of military presence in Afghanistan to achieve American goals.


They are making a leap when they declare the respondents to be "active-duty" service members. There is no evidence that the responding subscribers are in any way verified.

42 posted on 01/03/2009 10:34:41 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: jude24

Fair enough.

It starts off with little things, all ‘for the good of the country.’


43 posted on 01/03/2009 10:35:20 AM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: TaxRelief

Well of course not.

None of these polls or surveys are accurate.

They are just tools.


44 posted on 01/03/2009 11:11:31 AM PST by Syncro (Mi TagLine)
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To: null and void

You are correct.

As military men and women, they are ONLY to follow lawful orders. Just because the President or a commanding officer gives an order, does not mean it is lawful.


45 posted on 01/03/2009 11:11:54 AM PST by aps
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To: DieHard the Hunter

She could have commented anonymously but chose to give her identity; unless it’s a pseudonym.


46 posted on 01/03/2009 11:13:19 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Totally off topic response. Right out of school, I worked with a guy that had the last name Kleinpeter. One night at the station, one of the guys started giving him a hard time about his name. Said it meant “small dick”. I don’t know whether that is true or not, but that is what he said. I ran into the same guy 10 years later, and he had changed his last name to Klein. Said it was shorter for his kids to write :)

About the article. I heard some polls after the election that around 35% of active duty military ballots were for Obama. I couldn’t believe it at the time, but this poll seems to support that.


47 posted on 01/03/2009 11:13:29 AM PST by ga medic
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To: jude24

True, the days of Winfield Scott and Taylor are long past.


48 posted on 01/03/2009 11:40:24 AM PST by chargers fan (Bring on the Colts!)
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To: RobinMasters
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49 posted on 01/03/2009 12:03:18 PM PST by hamburglar (Do Unto Obama As Liberals Did Unto Bush)
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To: RobinMasters

I’m wary that he’s not a natural born American citizen.


50 posted on 01/03/2009 12:42:25 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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