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Comrade Bush’s Car Bailout [interesting stats]
National Review Online ^ | 2008-12-19 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 01/02/2009 5:15:00 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Retain Mike
RE :They have carefully followed scripting provided for show trials.

Actually I think Pelosi Reid wanted them to look good and only beat on them when the polls continued against the bailout, threw them under the bus. I thought of the national socialism analogy too.

In my comment 10 here:

comment 10: "I wouldnt recommend this type of national Socialism"

21 posted on 01/02/2009 7:40:22 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: org.whodat
RE :I just don't think there is anyone there to make any honest reforms!:!

Seems that way to me too. But I knew our party could only continue to get worse if by some miracle McCain slipped in by a few votes. Our party needed a massive defeat because it was really sick, and GWB was the leader leading us off a cliff. His father left us in a much better position exactly 16 years ago when Clinton won.

22 posted on 01/02/2009 7:45:38 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: sickoflibs

Yep. Rush sometimes has to walk a fine line. He knows his influence and IMO has to exercise prudence in his critiques. But he’s a conservative by gosh so what else to expect?

Cavuto has always done well by sticking to principle and to his guns and by being a generally very smart guy.

I believe Hannity is basically sincere but he gets stuck in ideological ruts fairly often, and doesn’t know how to get out.


23 posted on 01/02/2009 8:00:26 PM PST by angkor ("All you could hope for ...in the world's most august deliberative body." - Baldwin on Franken)
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To: angkor
RE :I believe Hannity is basically sincere but he gets stuck in ideological ruts fairly often, and doesn’t know how to get out.

Hannity appears to be not so bright and not so funny but will do very well next year with democrat majority. I have trouble listening to him or Levin now with GWB still screwing things up, and I used to really like Levin. But listening to him push McCain in October, and Hannity was worse, he had him on his show and sucked up to him during summer.

Rush was really perfect 93-94 because he looked like the only one who would tell you the whole story. I know to be skeptical now if we ever get power again.

24 posted on 01/02/2009 8:18:51 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: sickoflibs
It is nice to see someone else actually knows the definition of Fascism. Here in Eugene, Oregon people apply it to everyone who drives a full-size American truck and like such offenses. My post was also a letter to the editor published in our local paper, and no one seemed to get the connection. I like your link to “compassionate conservatism” also.

I will say following the script of a show trial means behaving according to your prosecutor's intentions, and quietly allowing them to slip the piano wire around your neck when desired.

25 posted on 01/02/2009 9:47:23 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: sickoflibs
Republicans have a lot of soul searching and cleaning house to do after GWB economic precedents. You cannot attack Obama for wasteful spending and socialistic takeovers and defend GWB without being laughed at. I see Hannity try it every night and he looks pathetic. (He is in GMs pocket too!)

You are right But in my trying to be a good American/Republican and voting our party ticket 100% BUT the way we were run over by these So called repersentivies is nothing but infuriating, Right NOW I feel like we are speeding down a mountain road with NO brakes and GW just threw the dam steering wheel out the window and Bailed out

26 posted on 01/03/2009 12:09:50 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: Shermy
It’s a plutocratic blowout, global because Bush has to bail out the foreign investors who also finance his deficits.

So very true.

“Compassionate Conservatism” was corporate conservatism from the start, “public-private cooperation”, something like fascism, though Mussolini probably exercised some fiscal discipline.

Yes, it's very similar to the economics of Mussolini's fascist regime...

"In actual fact, it is the State, i.e. the taxpayer, who has become responsible to private enterprise. In Fascist Italy the State pays for the blunders of private enterprise. As long as business was good, profit remained to private initiative. When the depression came, the Government added the loss to the tax-payer's burden. Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social."
--Under the Axe of Fascism, by Gaetano Salvemini, p. 416 (1936).
Salvemini goes on to discuss the bailouts, which were targeted to large corporations but not small businesses. All of this sounds familiar to everyone, I'm sure.

But he also pointed out that using the same economics as Fascists did not mean fascism was being adopted (using FDR's America as an example).

I don't believe President Bush is a fascist. I believe he is just employing its rotten economic policies.

27 posted on 01/03/2009 12:10:43 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Shermy
"In December 1932 a Fascist financial expert, Signor Mazuchelli, estimated that more than 8.5 billion lire had been paid out by the Government from 1923 to 1932 in order to help depressed industries (Rivista Bancaria, December 15th, 1932, p.1,007). From December 1932 to 1935 the outlay must have doubled."
--Under the Axe of Fascism, by Gaetano Salvemini (1936).

28 posted on 01/03/2009 12:14:29 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: I see my hands

I received a stimulus check this year, but I’m sure it is less than my total 2007 tax liability. I put it in my savings account. I wasn’t exactly thrilled by that stimulus, either, but if you think I’m going to let the government have it back, especially now that the Obamao is about to assume power, you’re out of your mind.


29 posted on 01/03/2009 2:07:03 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: rabscuttle385; All
Bush's "conservative" legacy: 69,341+ earmarks, barely any vetos ......

Name three bill's that Bush veto'd.

Quick, Anyone!

To my recollection, there has been maybe two veto's in eight years. As a fiscal conservative, the Bush Presidency has been a tremendous disappointment, and I don't understand why Liberals aren't jumping for joy.

Bush has expanded the size and scope of the Federal Government more than any President since LBJ and the institution of the "Great Society."

30 posted on 01/03/2009 2:27:56 AM PST by usconservative (My Plan For Government Reform: Hangings on Thursday, Trials on Friday.)
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To: rabscuttle385

He’s still trying to get Harry and Nancy to say something nice about him on Jan. 20 so he can go back to TX in liberal peace.


31 posted on 01/03/2009 12:00:47 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: sickoflibs

It’s too bad Hannity did not break with GWB in 2005; he would be a lot more convincing now had he done so. But he was trying to promote party harmony.


32 posted on 01/03/2009 12:03:10 PM PST by Theodore R. (GWB is neither "compassionate nor conservative.")
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To: Gondring

Thank you for the great posts.


33 posted on 01/03/2009 12:23:09 PM PST by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: Theodore R.

I find it very discouraging. Back in 1993 Rush took a dark time and made it fun. But the mindless Pro-McCain, Pro-Bush from Hannity and even Levin has made it hard for me to even listen to then. And their attacks Obama seem so mechanical. How can they attack Obama on socialism?


34 posted on 01/03/2009 7:00:08 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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