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Post Check on Liberty - The US Senate
jimbeers7.blogster.com ^ | Dec 31, 2008 | by JimBeers7

Posted on 01/01/2009 8:51:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The US Senate is arguably the strongest governmental entity in the world designed to preserve and protect the liberty and freedoms that have been the hallmarks responsible for the most envied society in the history of the world, the United States of America.

In addition to the power to create laws and appropriate money like the US House of Representatives, the Senate alone has the power to approve Treaties and to determine who sits on the US Supreme Court. Think about the far-ranging impacts of these two powers. Treaties become “the law of the land” thereby overruling the Constitution. Think about the Kyoto Protocols, UN “Conventions” that the Courts have held are “treaties” in such things as “endangered species” and gun control and education and myriad other matters. Consider Supreme Court appointments that dismiss our “contract” with government (the US Constitution) vis a vis the boundaries and role of government to protect our freedoms and liberties as a “living document not to be taken literally.

In short, the monumental collapse of the US Senate in recent years is responsible for the slide back into the sort of despicable central rule by a few that The Founding Fathers sought to replace with The Declaration of Independence and US Constitution after so many sacrificed their lives and fortunes to drive tyranny from our shores. It was precisely this guarantee of rights and freedom that nurtured our economic health and lured millions to leave the homelands where their ancestors had lived for generations and centuries to start a new life they could only imagine in their dreams.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; congress; liberty; senate

1 posted on 01/01/2009 8:51:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Great post Jim. Thanks.

The Senate began its descent in 1962.

2 posted on 01/01/2009 8:53:24 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Long before that. Repeal the 17th Amendment and at least some Congressional abuses will be defanged.


3 posted on 01/01/2009 8:57:51 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, JimRob!


4 posted on 01/01/2009 8:58:18 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: Jim Robinson
In addition to the power to create laws and appropriate money like the US House of Representatives, the Senate alone has the power to approve Treaties and to determine who sits on the US Supreme Court.

They also have confirmation power over the Executive branch. So far, that's meant cabinet positions. However, I think Democrats might use it more to deny military confirmations, such as General Officer promotions so that only "peace-minded" soldiers advance to the highest leadership ranks.

-PJ

5 posted on 01/01/2009 8:58:31 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Senate has become a disgrace. Happy New Year Jim.


6 posted on 01/01/2009 9:00:56 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: Jim Robinson
The US Senate is arguably the strongest governmental entity in the world designed to preserve and protect the liberty and freedoms that have been the hallmarks responsible for the most envied society in the history of the world, the United States of America.

McCain-Feingold

7 posted on 01/01/2009 9:01:27 PM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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To: Jim Robinson

>>>Treaties become “the law of the land” thereby overruling the Constitution

Nope, sorry, wrong. Treaties are simply another “law”, but not superior to the Constitution, which gives the power to enact treaties to the Congress. The source of the power cannot be subsurvient to a law enacted under its authority.


8 posted on 01/01/2009 9:02:44 PM PST by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: Jim Robinson

States rights have been systematically under attack since the Civil War.


9 posted on 01/01/2009 9:05:35 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The next 4 years could get REALLY interesting


10 posted on 01/01/2009 9:05:48 PM PST by wagon1963
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To: Jim Robinson
HEY NOOB!!!!!!! do a search before posting.

MASH HERE

And HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and yours!!!!! :)

11 posted on 01/01/2009 9:07:37 PM PST by Neil E. Wright ( An OATH is forever (NRA member))
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To: Neil E. Wright

Looks familiar.

Happy New Year!


12 posted on 01/01/2009 9:10:02 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Once Obama is installed as a puppet executive and The House is sent off on witch hunts after US businesses, the Senate becomes an oligarchy.

60.....that magic number that has been so elusive in the past is close at hand.
13 posted on 01/01/2009 9:12:39 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: seanrobins

I think he’s saying in effect it overrules the Constitution. What you’re saying is correct, but it’s not how the government views it. If a treaty can be construed to give the government more power than it would otherwise have, even if this power is unconstitutional, the government will always interpret it such that it gains the new power.

If we still cared about the Constitution, the Constitution would overrule treaties opposed to it, but unfortunately that’s not the case. We also wouldn’t teach Constitutional Law (i.e. precedent and judicial opinion) as the basis of Constitutionality, rather the Constitution (as well as the Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers, State Constitutional Ratifying Conventions, Opinions of the Founding Fathers, notes from the original Constitutional Convention, etc.) would be taught as the basis of Constitutionality.


14 posted on 01/01/2009 9:14:09 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: rabscuttle385; bamahead; Gondring

ping

States Rights


15 posted on 01/01/2009 9:15:33 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: Jim Robinson

You are so right, Jim.


16 posted on 01/01/2009 9:26:48 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"The US Constitution was amended on 8 April 1913 to “two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof”

One of the worst things that has happened to this country. What were they thinking?

17 posted on 01/01/2009 9:47:55 PM PST by KoRn
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To: BIGLOOK
"60.....that magic number that has been so elusive in the past is close at hand."

With the liberal republicans, they already have more than 60 on many issues. The only issue where I could see us getting enough dems to cross over to prevent something very bad would be gun control.

18 posted on 01/01/2009 9:51:29 PM PST by KoRn
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To: KoRn

By product of the progressive era.


19 posted on 01/01/2009 9:59:12 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: buccaneer81

Why 1962?


20 posted on 01/01/2009 10:03:03 PM PST by Mogwai (Palin/Santorum 2012!)
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To: Mogwai
Why 1962?

The "passing of the crown" to Ted Kennedy, who wasn't qualified to run a clam shack. The only reason he didn't take the seat two years earlier was that he was too young, constitutionally. So old Joe and the Massachusetts machine had a seat warmer in there for two years.

21 posted on 01/01/2009 10:23:54 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Ted’s accession to the Senate, hoo boy. That was a disaster. Even in his first term he passed the immigration bill that has our backs to the wall, and may soon make it impossible to elect a conservative congress or president. Yep, I think you’ve got the date of the fall about right, though you doubtlessly have your own reasons.


22 posted on 01/01/2009 11:24:44 PM PST by Mogwai (Vrlo je lepa, samo mnogo pusi)
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To: Jim Robinson
In the list of "other recent Senate scandals," the author should also include:

-PJ

23 posted on 01/01/2009 11:50:44 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for posting this. I must have missed the first post. It was a worthwhile read,Thanks again.
24 posted on 01/02/2009 12:01:34 AM PST by Peacekeeper357 (This is not a free ride. Become a monthly donor like me.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t believe treaties overrule the US Constitution. They are indeed powerful, but they can’t be used to take away enumerated rights. They COULD be used to add additional restrictions, like making sexual orientation a protected class. In other words, the government couldn’t create a treaty that outlawed political speech. At least, that’s how I think it works.


25 posted on 01/02/2009 12:27:16 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Political Junkie Too

Add Spector’s “Not Proven” to the list.


26 posted on 01/02/2009 2:37:05 AM PST by jamaksin
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