Posted on 01/01/2009 6:29:13 AM PST by Flavius
” Yes.
And the dumb@ss dopers would kill themselves more quickly because the prices would be lower.
And the stoners would just be useless; except that they would buy more junk food because of the munchies.”
Oh yeah just what we need on our crowded highways a bazillion
freaked out stoners on acid and speed, yeah right that’ll work real well.
Corruption leading to lack of freedom in all countries is main cause of misery.
Yes, because Russia has always been so reliable in the past...
Mexico needs a Revolution and it needs it bad. The people need to rise up and clean things up. It has happened in the past and, I believe , will happen in the future. 2012 will see a communist government in Mexico City.
If you legalized it who would be the suppliers?
The drug war in Mexico via Culiacan is about a one cartel system.
You would not change a thing if it was legalized other than escalate the wars between the Beltrans with the aid of the Los Zeptas against Chapo Guzman.
The drug cartel would still run Mexico, the cartel would do it “legally.”
Moreover, do you think more crack babies would be a good thing...
I would agree that not many more would try marijuana. Already more than half of all American adults under sixty have tried marijuana. It's already pretty darned cheap and it's easily available everywhere, far more so than any other illegal drugs. And if there was a fad where a marijuana use went up a lot for a while, it wouldn't be that big of a deal because it is not particularly addictive and not prone to causing a lot of crime. When the novelty wore off and the fad waned per capita marijuana use would just go back down.
I don't agree about other drugs like cocaine and heroin though. If cocaine was cheap and available in a nice clean store, a lot more people would do it. I've done cocaine. I did it several times back in the eighties and I have to admit that I really liked it. If it wasn't for the hundred dollar a gram price tag I probably would have done a lot more. I was just too cheap for that and I didn't have much money in my late teens and early twenties anyway. If I could have bought it for ten bucks a gram at the store though I probably would have become a raving coke fiend. I'd have tried to be careful and not do it too much, but it's just too easy for things to get out of hand with a drug like that and before you know it you've just got to have it.
And heroin, you can't even find that stuff in my area. I'm sure someone brings it in every once in a while, but it is far from widely available and it never has been. Most police officers in my area have never made a heroin possession arrest. Most lawyers have never handled a heroin case. As an attorney I've handled thousands of pounds worth of drug cases, represented hundreds of people in drug cases, and the only heroin case I ever had was one where some drug mules were caught passing through on the interstate with a couple of pounds of it destined for a state out east. If it was legal and available at a nice clean store most people would have enough sense to leave it alone but some would fool around with it and before you know it we'd have a small contingent of heroin addicts causing us big problems. Why would we want that?
I agree on marijuana, but not on any other drugs. Marijuana is the backbone of the illegal drugs trade anyway. The ONDCP recently estimated that Mexico grosses about $13.8 billion a year selling drugs to Americans and about $8.6 billion of that is from marijuana sales alone. No other drug is anywhere close to that. The next biggest seller for them is cocaine and they gross less than half from cocaine what they gross on marijuana, about $3.9 billion a year. And they're just the middlemen for the cocaine. They have to buy it from South America and smuggle it all the way into Mexico before they smuggle it here. They aren't producing it like they produce the marijuana. They produce heroin but only have sales of about $400 million to Americans. They gross about a billion from meth, but the biggest part of the gross receipts and probably a bigger part of Mexican organized crime's net income comes from marijuana. Take marijuana from them and they will be a shell of what they are today. They'd have far less money to operate with and it would be harder for them to move the hard stuff because they'd no longer have the marijuana distribution networks that reach every corner of marijuana to use as conduits to move these other drugs down to end consumers.
Please guard the butterfiles well, theay are a treasure.
SF
“The first thing is to legalize drugs. “
So you would legalize ALL drugs? Will you pay to support those who abuse drugs so badly that they ruin their health and require hundreds of thousands spent for care? Will you absolve those who, while high on drugs, commit crimes? Will you support tax increases to run the daily body pickup carts (like we see in India) made necessary by the OD deaths?
Where is the line? I could support the legalization of pot if the law was well thought out and had strict regulations. As to others, make the punishment for sale, DEATH.
Not to worry. The US Federal government has a long and unbroken history of making sure the poor, the sick, the rabble rousers, and the criminally insane who would otherwise pose a threat to the stability of Mexican government, are regularly sent here, into El Norte. The US taxpayer-funded housing, welfare, health, and education systems are a far more stabilizing force for the Mexican government than anything the Mexicans can come up with.
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