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Will Mexico Fail in 2009 or 2010?
thetrumpet ^ | December 31, 2008 | By Robert Morley

Posted on 01/01/2009 6:29:13 AM PST by Flavius

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To: Flavius

Many Mexican “officials” are trying to blame their drug-war defeats on guns imported from the US! What a JOKE.


21 posted on 01/01/2009 7:11:46 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Flavius
Mexico locked in contracts to sell its oil for $70 per barrel.

Does the contract call for a certain quantity to be purchased? If not, when the price drops below $70 don't the buyers look elsewhere?

22 posted on 01/01/2009 7:12:33 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Flavius

THE WAR NEXT DOOR

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2151549/posts

[snips]“How do you begin to understand that so many people are dying in Mexico? More than 5,000 casualties because of “narcotrafficking.” That’s more than all of the American troops that have died fighting an actual war in Iraq.”

One grisly new tactic is beheadings. A headless corpse hung above a busy highway almost two hours before police covered it with a sheet - the head found in a nearby park.

In Tijuana, nine men were decapitated last month, three of them policemen, their badges stuck in their mouths - some of the 40 murders in Tijuana occurred in just one weekend.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/16/eveningnews/main4672172.shtml


23 posted on 01/01/2009 7:16:49 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: rovenstinez

Echoing your words from last Sunday’s LA SLIMES

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-fg-mexico-drugwar28-2008dec28,0,4782979.story

Reporting from Culiacan, Mexico — Yudit del Rincon, a 44-year-old lawmaker, went before the state legislature this year with a proposition: Let’s require lawmakers to take drug tests to prove they are clean.

Her colleagues greeted the idea with applause. Then she sprang a surprise on them: Two lab technicians waited in the audience to administer drug tests to every state lawmaker. We should set the example, she said.

They nearly trampled one another in the stampede to the door, Del Rincon recalled.


24 posted on 01/01/2009 7:17:43 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: svcw

“I have been to Mexico. If fell decades ago.”

Yep.


25 posted on 01/01/2009 7:20:15 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: rovenstinez

“It does seems hard to believe, but there are many of our neighbors who risk every day their physical well being to stop corruption at every level.”

It’s not hard for me to believe, rovenstinez. We hear reports every day of good people in Mexico being slaughtered for trying to uphold the rule of law or reporting the corruption.
We should be helping them in their own country, not here.


26 posted on 01/01/2009 7:23:39 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: rovenstinez

What do you recommend that America can do to actually help Mexico?


27 posted on 01/01/2009 7:24:52 AM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Mark was here
We need to end the WOD and just let stoners fry their own brains as we should not give a crap about the self destructive idiots.

Agreed in principal, but in fact the results will be confiscation of more of our money to support the non-functional addicts (especially with radical liberals about to take control), and a black market in untaxed drugs (since they will not be cheap due to the taxes) aimed at the recreational user.

< /runonsentence >

28 posted on 01/01/2009 7:26:13 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
Does the contract call for a certain quantity to be purchased?

Yes, this was future quantities of oil sold at places like the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Mexico Hedges Nearly All Of Next Year's Oil Exports
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2130103/posts
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008

29 posted on 01/01/2009 7:28:38 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rovenstinez
...ruled by corrupt and wicked people, whose sole intent in life is to gain and hold power.

Sounds like Illinois! Joisey, too!

30 posted on 01/01/2009 7:29:19 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Legalization of at least marijuana and its derivatives is the only rational answer here.

1) Decrease cash flow to criminal organizations (OK, I’m not counting the US gummint in that category just yet)

2) Decrease law enforcement, criminal justice, and correction dept expenditures for the stoners

3) Increase tax revenue

What’s not to like here?


31 posted on 01/01/2009 7:30:38 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: tbw2
What do you recommend that America can do to actually help Mexico?

How about the radical solution of CLOSING THE FREAKIN' BORDERS? That will help by forcing a revolution that will bring the communists to power; then we can invade them, conquer them, restructure their society (think post- WWII Japan) and build a good neighbor from the ground up!

Is the < /sarc > tag really needed?

32 posted on 01/01/2009 7:38:01 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
The one thing I don’t get is that people’s illogical answer against legalization is, “but more people will want to try it!”

One thing the drug legalizers never get around to is explaining exactly how drug legalization would work. Would we walk into the convenience store and see a selection of marijuana cigarettes right next to the Winstons and Marlboros? And for those who like to roll their own, nice tins of loose marijuana next to the Skoal and Copenhagen? Oh, right there next to the BC powders are little packets of cocaine? And where to display the crack cocaine? Or maybe that would be one of those "under the counter" products?

Just how would it work.? Who could sell all these legal drugs? Who could buy it? Would we just say anyone who can buy alcohol and tobacco legally can walk in and buy the recreational drug of their choice?

33 posted on 01/01/2009 7:41:27 AM PST by Will88
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To: Flavius

Mexico is a cesspit.

It won’t change until the average Mexican citizen has had enough and revolts against their corrupt goobermint.

The USA is rapidly following their example, and the cure is the same as prescribed above.


34 posted on 01/01/2009 7:54:18 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Will88
Would we just say anyone who can buy alcohol and tobacco legally can walk in and buy the recreational drug of their choice?

Yes.

And the dumb@ss dopers would kill themselves more quickly because the prices would be lower.

And the stoners would just be useless; except that they would buy more junk food because of the munchies.

35 posted on 01/01/2009 7:58:40 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Flavius; dennisw; SwinneySwitch
Mexico seems doomed to implode in the next year or two.

One: Declining oil reserves combined with declining oil prices leads to a drastic shortfall in state revenues. The first leg of the Mexican economy collapses.

Two: Declining tourism due to the American recession and Mexican crime stories. The second pillar of the Mexican economy collapses.

Three: Declining remittance checks from Mexicans in the USA due to the American recession, coupled with out of work Mexicans returning to Mexico at the worst possible time. The third pillar collapses, and the returning workers bring a new factor of higher expectations and social frustration.

36 posted on 01/01/2009 8:04:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tbw2

I’d like Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona to highlight some of the history of 1810, and redress or as they say a revisionist view of Mexican History, and put a good face upon some of those Patriots in Mexico of 1810 who were friends of Andrew Jackson, readers of the Federalist papers like Juan Alvarez, Vicente Guerrero, Quintana Roo. The 1st Vice President of Texas the Nation was De Zavala, who is despised in history books in Mexico, looked upon in Mexico as a traitor, and not a true Patriot of a Free Country. There was in 1810 a group of people who wanted a Gov’t OF the People, By the People and For the People, but what they got in 1810 was a Gov’t of the Catholic Church, By the Mexican Army and FOR the wealthy elite. I think Texans could help Mexico by firmly holding true to their battle cry of the Alamo, that without REPPRESENTATION, there can be no Taxation. Many in Mexico want a Gov’t that is more sensitive to business, and not just labor and the poor with their continual demands. This for starters, what Americans can do for Mexico...join us in our BiCentennial, but with a spin or twist towards the concepts of the Founders of the Great Nation of the United States of America, put it in your schools textbooks.


37 posted on 01/01/2009 8:12:22 AM PST by rovenstinez (,)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
While unpopular with many on here, legalizing it is the only way to stop the mind blowing killing that we are seeing now.

Cartel members kill because they like it. If drugs were legalized it wouldn't stop the killing. Murder is a moral issue that exists with or without drugs.

38 posted on 01/01/2009 8:17:40 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Will88

you bring up a very valid question that I can’t answer.


39 posted on 01/01/2009 8:30:16 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: JimRed
Agreed in principal, but in fact the results will be confiscation of more of our money to support the non-functional addicts

You are already paying for that now. It is a small fraction of the cost of the WOD. So factoring that, there should still be a net decrease in the cost to taxpayers. The WOD warriors will oppose the move because it would empty their rice bowl and remove most of their cool toys.

40 posted on 01/01/2009 8:36:41 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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