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NASA reports graphic details of Columbia deaths
optimum.net ^ | Tue Dec 30, 2008

Posted on 12/30/2008 2:11:10 PM PST by Joiseydude

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To: Alberta's Child

If Cynthia McKinney were a journalist covering NASA, her level of scientific knowledge would leave her woefully overqualified compared to most that do that job.


41 posted on 12/30/2008 4:06:39 PM PST by Habibi
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To: no one in particular

There were survivors of the Columbia disaster.

Nematodes.


42 posted on 12/30/2008 4:09:03 PM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: Joiseydude

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43 posted on 12/30/2008 4:09:49 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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Here's the NASA accident investgation report,

NASA Report

44 posted on 12/30/2008 4:27:11 PM PST by Joiseydude (Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,)
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To: Joiseydude

They didn’t look at the damage they knew was there. They re-entered with the heaviest payload ever. They could have floated a camera along side to see what the damage was, and they could have left the payload in orbit.

Have you aver noticed how much hotter your brakes get when your pickup is loaded? Leaving the lab in orbit might have saved the crew.

Nasa it run by idiot scum.


45 posted on 12/30/2008 4:31:35 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: ccmay
hard-Left blather about Nicaragua and El Salvador and Cuba and the evils of Ronald Reagan

My Western Civilization class professor was a Russian named Vladimir. He never shut up about Evil Reagan.

46 posted on 12/30/2008 4:37:10 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Crystal Cove

Personally I don’t see the point in making it public but it certainly doesn’t hurt to know what happened. That’s how things are made safer.


47 posted on 12/30/2008 4:39:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Joiseydude

This is stupid...

It’s like ticketing a dead person for not wearing a seatbelt when a sky scraper fell on their car.


48 posted on 12/30/2008 4:42:29 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: mountaineer1997

“If you are going to die, die trying to solve the problem.”

I like that. That’s the attitude that has advanced human civilization.


49 posted on 12/30/2008 4:55:47 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Joiseydude
From the article:

Columbia disintegrated as it returned to Earth at the end of its space mission. The accident was caused by a hole in the shuttle's left wing from a piece of foam insulation that smashed into it at launch. The breach in the wing brought it down upon its return to Earth.

Is this "piece of foam insulation" a result of the insistence on using a formulation considered "green"--in other words, was "the environment protected" at the expense of the the spacecraft and the lives of its crew.

The question at the time remains, namely, was a dangerous condition created by political correctness, and allowed to become a lethal condition due to bureaucratic cowardice.

God bless the crew for its unflappable valor.

50 posted on 12/30/2008 5:05:33 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: mountaineer1997

Not long after the Challenger disaster there were reports circulating that one of the passengers was screaming all the way down until impact in the ocean.


51 posted on 12/30/2008 5:14:11 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Joiseydude

The Columbia was at 200,000 (two hundred thousand) feet in altitude and moving at 12,000 (twelve thousand) miles per hour when the accident happened. 12,000 mph — a speed I can’t imagine. There is nothing that could save anyone at that velocity. I’m suprised there were even identifiable body parts left.


52 posted on 12/30/2008 5:49:37 PM PST by StormEye
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To: God luvs America

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1029949/posts?page=1

I saw the post just before going to church - when I got home almost two hours later, the networks broke the news.


53 posted on 12/30/2008 6:00:15 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Star Traveler

So the H.M.S. Titanic hits an iceberg and sinks, taking lives that could have been saved...if...

Still, ships at sea hit many different types of objects and sink, taking lives to this day...What has been learned???

Having been intimately involved with our space program, and knowing a few of those crew that were killed personally, they, along with a great many of us knew that anything could happen, and those things that could have happened were planned for and procedures written and trained on to counter the problems and risks associated with space travel...

Up to the time that this particular problem which killed them way before the actual point of disaster...

The one thing that glared out before anything else, had they known of the problem, there was actually a fix/plan/procedure for this, had it been detected...

Now that we know that this is a problem, NASA has fixed it even better by taking a closer look at the vehicle to see if those procedures would be necessary to minimize the risk at that point in the flight...

Otherwise, the astronaut corp would dwindle in size if we just kept going without figuring out a few things...


54 posted on 12/30/2008 6:23:32 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: mountaineer1997
Re: If you are going to die, die trying to solve the problem.

Truly the Right Stuff!

God bless them all

55 posted on 12/30/2008 6:24:06 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: stevie_d_64

You said — “So the H.M.S. Titanic hits an iceberg and sinks, taking lives that could have been saved...if...”

Ummm..., if they carried enough life-boats, maybe... :-)


56 posted on 12/30/2008 6:28:09 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Habibi

ROFL.


57 posted on 12/30/2008 6:51:23 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child
That reminds me of Dan Rather's coverage of the World Series earthquake in, I think, '89. He was reading a dispatch from the USGS or some other agency that used the word "epicenter". Dan decided he'd better explain that one to the unwashed, so he began, "Of course, the epicenter is . . . ." Then he stopped, his brow furrowed, after which he continued, haltingly, ". . . is . . . the center . . . . It's the very center . . . of the earthquake." To which several of us watching replied "Thank you, Dr. Science!"
58 posted on 12/30/2008 7:38:40 PM PST by Hunton Peck (Does the President Elect have any friends at all who are *not* psychopaths?)
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To: Crystal Cove
> If you had read the article, you would have known that it made absolutely no implication that they could have been saved.

I read the article. What I was referring to was not a statement made in the article about them potentially being saved, but rather the tone, which seemed to suggest, "if only they had been able to get into their helmets and gloves faster, something would have turned out differently".

Which is hogwash -- they would be just as dead, although the corpses would perhaps have been dressed differently.

It's useful to note that they weren't able to get into their gear rapidly. Okay, that's a valid point. And perhaps in a FAR FAR LESS DIRE CIRCUMSTANCE that little difference could be significant.

But the way it's presented, the reader is left with the feeling that maybe the helmet/glove issue contributed to the disaster. That's the false implication I object to.

59 posted on 12/30/2008 8:16:54 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: sionnsar
>> They were traveling at some humongous speed.

> They sure were.

Wow, "18 times the speed of light". That's quick.

Makes you want to take the guys who write the news captions and slap them. Geez. Anybody knows you can't go faster than twice the speed of light... ;-)

60 posted on 12/30/2008 8:19:23 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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