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Automatic speed-limiting devices should be fitted to cars, says report[UK]
Telegraph ^ | 30 Dec 2008 | Jon Swaine

Posted on 12/30/2008 12:19:33 PM PST by BGHater

A panel from the Commission for Integrated Transport and the Motorists' Forum, both of which advise the Government on transport, say the technology would cut injuries from road accidents by 29 per cent and reduce carbon emissions.

The system would require detailed digital maps of Britain's roads, containing every speed limit, to be drawn up.

A device in vehicles would use satellite positioning technology to discover the limit in its location and reduce its speed if necessary.

The groups say the devices should be fitted on a voluntary basis and should contain a manual override feature, meaning drivers could break the speed limit if, for example, they were forced to overtake.

The report follows lengthy trials backed the Department for Transport, which has been in talks with the motor industry over how the devices could be made available.

John Lewis, who chaired the panel, said: "You can override the device that we're talking about, either by pressing a button on the steering wheel or by kicking down the accelerator as you would on an automatic car.

"But we conducted trials with 20 cars and 80 different drivers over an extended period, and actually the drivers found they changed their habits and changed their behaviour and might not have taken the risk of overtaking," he told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme.

However, critics have warned that a similar, existing system for truck drivers showed that the devices could cause drivers to not give driving their full attention.

Claire Armstrong, from the road safety charity Safe Speed, said: "They drive along at 56, they stick their foot on the floor because they know the equipment will not go any faster, and they pretty much go into fatigue mode, or zombie mode.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cars; speed

1 posted on 12/30/2008 12:19:33 PM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

meanwhile violent crime continues to rise unabated.


2 posted on 12/30/2008 12:27:25 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BGHater
there's been a flood of totalitarian fantasy headlines of late.

I'm guessing that's all they'll amount to.

3 posted on 12/30/2008 12:27:32 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: BGHater

They already come with speed limiting devices. The laws of physics.


4 posted on 12/30/2008 12:28:30 PM PST by doodad
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To: BGHater
"You can override the device that we're talking about"

The unreported second half to that statement is as follows: "... at least for now; but we'll soon have that loophole sewn up.

5 posted on 12/30/2008 12:28:31 PM PST by eclecticEel (In short, I want Obama given the same respect and deference that Democrats have given George Bush)
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To: BGHater

Automatic speech-limiting devices should be fitted to mouths of Liberals, Dentist says.


6 posted on 12/30/2008 12:29:20 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: BGHater

More good ideas from the UK.


7 posted on 12/30/2008 12:29:20 PM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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To: BGHater

Cars will drive themselves sooner rather than later. Smoke ‘em while you can.


8 posted on 12/30/2008 12:31:05 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: BGHater

The UK should just get chips implanted in their subjects’ brains. They want perfect control? Let them do it properly!


9 posted on 12/30/2008 12:32:03 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Women were treated like livestock by Mohammad, so Allah must want women treated like cows forever.)
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To: Paladin2

There were some trials of automatic highways in the late 90s IIRC. Neat idea on one hand, bad on the other.

Neat because you wouldn’t have to be stressed or basically do anything. Bad.....you have no control. Say goodbye to going 5 over. If the system crashes, major accidents could occur.


10 posted on 12/30/2008 12:32:39 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: BGHater
You've got to hand it to them. For more than a decade now, some of the "BEST" ideas for achieving total government control of the populace have been coming out of the UK.
11 posted on 12/30/2008 12:33:38 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: BGHater
It has apparently come to this:

Would all British men please check their genitals at the nearest police station?

12 posted on 12/30/2008 12:34:58 PM PST by muir_redwoods (B. O. Stinks!!!)
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To: BGHater
Aren't they also looking to ban essentially all refrigerants used in auto air conditioning?

What's next?

13 posted on 12/30/2008 12:36:05 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: rwfromkansas

I hope Microsoft isn’t a partner.


14 posted on 12/30/2008 12:36:52 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Resist the Obamination!)
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To: SIDENET

“Voluntary”. Har-dee-har-har.


15 posted on 12/30/2008 12:36:56 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: BGHater

But of course police cars wouldn’t be limited, right? One rule for us, another for them.


16 posted on 12/30/2008 12:38:13 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: BGHater

Just might work around these parts (suburban Chicago). I’m sick and tired of pacing some idiot at 45 mph when the posted speed is 55!


17 posted on 12/30/2008 12:41:28 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: BGHater

Why don’t they just cut to the chase...and implant chips in all our brains?


18 posted on 12/30/2008 12:43:36 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's heart is blacker than the devil's riding boots...............)
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To: BGHater

coming to A GM plant near you...........


19 posted on 12/30/2008 12:43:38 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: rwfromkansas
It won't be an automated highway. The cars will be capable of going with the flow of other traffic except in some severe weather conditions.

Training a car to do a commute will be the easiest task. The DARPA desert and then city challenges drove development surprisingly quickly.

20 posted on 12/30/2008 12:45:18 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Navy Patriot

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/justice/article2075434.ece


21 posted on 12/30/2008 12:45:58 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Paladin2

Oh, true, this isn’t an automated highway. I guess I was just responding to the comment that someday cars will drive themselves entirely.


22 posted on 12/30/2008 12:50:35 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: BGHater

Is this device Sharia compliant?


23 posted on 12/30/2008 12:52:22 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: ltc8k6
Knives now kill six a week

Holy smoke, the limeys have finally got the knives to kill all by themselves, the criminals must be livid, being cut out of the loop.

Was that a really bad pun?

24 posted on 12/30/2008 12:54:30 PM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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To: Dallas59
Is this device Sharia compliant?

It preys more than five time a day, so I would say yes.

25 posted on 12/30/2008 12:56:41 PM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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To: BGHater

Cut injuries from road accidents by 29 per cent and reduce carbon emissions? That’s a half-assed measure: a 99% reduction can be achieved simply by removing the ignition switch from all automobiles.


26 posted on 12/30/2008 12:59:55 PM PST by Madistan (When love of country wanes, patriots arise)
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To: BGHater
Makes sense to me. It's the motoring equivalent of a large capacity magazine ban.

</sarc>

27 posted on 12/30/2008 1:03:12 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: doodad
a number of years ago similar regulators were available on US cars - can’t recall what we called them. Some kids quickly learned how to override them.
28 posted on 12/30/2008 1:15:03 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: BGHater
This from a country that has Socialized Medicine, universal bad teeth and tasteless food. What could you expect?
29 posted on 12/30/2008 1:19:50 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: elpadre

a number of years ago similar regulators were available on US cars - can’t recall what we called them. Some kids quickly learned how to override them.
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Another good example would be the “blow in the tube” interlocks for convicted drunk drivers,, the judges never heard of a bellows?

Or the no seatbelt no start interlocks we had for one year only , 1974 ...


30 posted on 12/30/2008 1:20:57 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: elpadre

Guv’nas perhaps? I know a lot of work trucks in my past had them.


31 posted on 12/30/2008 1:48:44 PM PST by doodad
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To: the invisib1e hand
there's been a flood of totalitarian fantasy headlines of late.

I'm guessing that's all they'll amount to.

The odds of a lot of these hairbrained ideas becoming law these days are higher than they were in the past.....

32 posted on 12/30/2008 3:01:58 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“there’s been a flood of totalitarian fantasy headlines of late.”

“We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical.”


33 posted on 12/30/2008 4:22:55 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: BGHater

One of my BMWs was limited to 90 and another to 150.


34 posted on 12/30/2008 4:58:40 PM PST by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: BGHater
During the last century it became almost an article of faith among Western intellectuals that human beings were naturally inclined toward freedom, and that the general failure of totalitarians was not the result of effective defense in support of Liberty, but of the triumph of the human spirit.

This belief was always Utopian in its conception. The truth is that most people either despise or fear freedom, and will gratefully accept varying degrees of economic, social and political control as an acceptable price with which to purchase security and to avoid the necessity of self-reliance.

35 posted on 12/30/2008 5:10:06 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Ronald Reagan had a vision of America. Barack Obama has a vision of Barack Obama.)
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To: BGHater
Dispatch from Airstrip One...
36 posted on 12/30/2008 7:16:49 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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