Posted on 12/26/2008 6:33:48 PM PST by King of Card Games
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.org has a comment by a Texan who says that he or she recently talked on the phone with Congressman Ron Paul about the meaning of “natural-born” in Article II, for presidential qualification. According to the comment, Paul said, "There is no law that actually defines ‘natural born’, so the argument could go on forever with thousands of different interpretations. The consensus is that he is a U.S. citizen, and therefore eligible."
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Ron Paul ping!
I used to respect Ron Paul. Now I just think he’s a loon.
Consensus? There’s consensus on global warming, and holes are being shot through it daily.
Well, he was always a little bit of a loon, and I’ve always had more than a little respect for him at the same time.
Most who are concerned with the situation were not consulted for this so-called consensus.
“The consensus is that he is a U.S. citizen, and therefore eligible.”
That is unpersuasive.
This matter is what changed your mind about him?
Well it takes all kinds. At least he doesn’t promote UFOs.
“has a comment by a Texan who says that he or she recently talked on the phone with Congressman Ron Paul”
unimpeachable sources lol
“This matter is what changed your mind about him?”
No, I change my mind a few years ago and reinforced it in the last election cycle.
I respected him because he supported the Constitution. Now he’s just a loon.
Mercy! Consensus? The man—Obama—perjures on his IL Bar app, posts a froged COLB as his ‘proof of citizenship’, has an army of lawyers and detectives hide every scrap of his documents in adult life, and spends a million to stonewall showing his vault cert to a court. The Constitution requires three specific qualifications and Rep. Paul is more than willing to just piss on the Constitution and go with consensus. Mercy! ‘That’s not the Ron Paul I knew.’
Consensus in his mind maybe. Not in the minds of some.
One thing you could trust Ron Paul, he’s no socialist. He’s consistantly low tax conservative. Can’t say the same for Bush or Mccain
Ron Paul is a loon but he needs a break on this one. For one, we are not certain he said it. All we have is the hearsay testimony on an “unnamed Texan”.
The next time some schmuck tell me about Paul's rock solid belief in the Constitution I'll likely spit in his face. There aren't "thousands of interpretations." There are maybe three or four. ALL OF THEM REASONABLY REQUIRE PRODUCTION OF A CERTIFIED COPY OF ONE'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Consensus won't get you a driver's license, and it shouldn't get one the Presidency.
Shame!
ML/NJ
That the “consensus” includes people of various political persuasions is puzzling. Seeing the mark of the beast must be a very intimidating experience.
Barack Helmsley Obama says: "We don't show documents. Only the little people have to show documents."
(Leona "Queen of Mean" Helmsley boasted "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes" according to testimony from disgruntled employees who said she terrorized the help at her homes and hotels. Mrs. Helmsley denied saying it. Regardless she went to prison for tax fraud.)
Politicians aren’t given to ‘spiritual’ insight. They’re willing to accept anything to avoid conflict. They don’t appear to care that allowing a fraud to ascend to the presidentcy abrogates our, OUR Constitutional contract with the fed. The elected reps are the ones disenfranchised We The People are.
The constitution used the Law of Nations for reference.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2148074/posts
Law of Nations
Natural born is clearly defined.
Same with the elections.
>>>‘That’s not the Ron Paul I knew.’
That is exactly what I said when I saw that posting on the forums.
I would like to question the source.
This anon posted conversation does not sound like Ron Paul to me.
It also says in it that Ron Paul is afraid to be laughed out.
Since when?
I call B.S.
Looks like Ron Paul does not know much about the Constitution after all! No surprise that he joins Martinez with their idea of what “natural born” citizen means. It means what they want it to mean, that’s all. The want Obama to be President so they will say Obama meets qualifications.
If Ron Paul said this there is but one explanation.
He WIMPED OUT, just like all the rest of the gutless politicians who haven’t the courage to stand up and say. “Let’s see the Damned Birth Certificate “
We need One Congressman and One Senator with guts and not one has stood up. Eunuch’s
If Ron Paul said this there is but one explanation.
He WIMPED OUT, just like all the rest of the gutless politicians who haven’t the courage to stand up and say. “Let’s see the Damned Birth Certificate “
We need One Congressman and One Senator with guts and not one has stood up. Eunuch’s
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Wow! You know you’re hardcore when you dispute 0bama’s eligibility. But I agree with you. The major talk radio hosts refuse to get involved. Afraid of getting burned. Same with the Supreme Court
Ron Paul is wrong on this one, the laws are not that complicated. If Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen. If not, he isn’t. His mother was too young to have Obama qualify as a citizen, if he were born out of country. This whole debate is unnecessary. Obama should be made to show proof he was born in the US. Ron Paul is weaseling out of this like all the dimwits who don’t want to offend the press. Don’t think the citizenship issue would have gone unresolved if Obama were a white conservative. It’s just that simple.
I find that hard to believe. I respect Ron Paul for his Constitutional stances on a wide variety of subjects other than the war on terror, but this doesn’t sound like things I’ve heard him say in the past. If he did say this, then I can’t wait until he’s voted out of office.
Ron Paul has always been disappointing to me. I resented friends telling me he was the only worthwhile candidate to vote for. People who pressure you hard like that, who are to the point of hero worship of any man, are the kinds of people to avoid or ignore. I make up my own mind.
We'll see about the Court. Their roll may only begin after the Electoral Votes have been counted and certified.
ML/NJ
“I used to respect Ron Paul. Now I just think he’s a loon.”
Loon is right. More ‘result by agenda consensus’.
Someday we will get an editing function on this forum.
I strongly question the accuracy of this report. Ron Paul is the last person to decide anything by consensus, no matter what your opinion of the man might be otherwise.
unimpeachable sources lol
Maybe one notch above I read it on the Internet. LOL
I think it sounds like propaganda.
Yes, you have come to the correct conclusion.
rofl
“a Texan, he or she talked to Ron Paul...” A comment on a blog. Anyone can say anything. I can’t believe RP would say such an ambigious thing.
The FACTS show otherwize!
Given his thinking this means a person is a US Citizen this leaves the barndoor open for Arnie, who has already stated he would LOVE to run ....
Very well said Myrddin. All the attorneys he can muster (leagues of them) will never remove the doubt he's created by stonewalling what could easily and readily be proven and the matter put to rest forevermore.
I agree. The post reads more like a press release statement than a personal account.
I'm not a Paulie but I know a fraud when I see one.
He added...
All HAIL Obama!!
All shall bow to Obama!
Puny Earthings you shall learn to love your overlord!
All hail Obama!
Or words to that affect.
I guess the Constitution has now been re-written. The candidate for president must have a copy of his “consensus certificate” in order to be eligible.
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