Mohamed gets 15 years in terrorism case

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With a name like Mohammed & his dastardly deeds, he may have deserved the 15 years.

Yeah, but I bet he’ll still be looking forward to earning his 72 virgins when he gets out.

Best Headline of the Day ! imho

at his age, at his intelligence, how he has become committed to this path

Many terrorists have been young and well educated. This kind of statement from the judge just shows how accepted the "poverty causes terrorism" lie has become.

"I still wonder why this young man in front of me at his age, at his intelligence, how he has become committed to this path,"

More amazingly, why doesn't the judge understand....why this young man was committed to his path....ie....jihad.

"I still wonder why this young man in front of me at his age, at his intelligence, how he has become committed to this path"

Here's a hint...one single word...begins with "I"

I hope they put panties on his head an throw shoes at him!

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Only 15 years? He’ll be out in 3 to 5. Give him 30 so he gets 15.

“”I still wonder why this young man in front of me at his age, at his intelligence, how he has become committed to this path,””

He actually follows the teachings in the koranus.

LLS

"I still wonder why this young man in front of me at his age, at his intelligence, how he has become committed to this path," said U.S. District Judge Steven D. Merryday

A: Islam.

The judge has lost his common sense.

He’ll need guards in prison. Once the Aryan Nation guys know of him, he won’t be around too long.

RECAP AND UPDATED:

US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: Tampa, Florida - "TAMPA MAN SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS IN PRISON FOR PROVIDING MATERIAL SUPPORT TO TERRORISTS" (SNIPPET: "... Ahmed Abdellatif Sherif Mohamed, a resident of Tampa and native of Egypt...") (December 15, 2008)

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - IPT News: "SOB STORIES FOR TERRORISTS" (December 17, 2008)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "POOR MOHAMED, THE FRUGAL JIHADI" (June 21, 2008)

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US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: Tampa, Florida - "AHMED ABDELLATIF SHERIF MOHAMED PLEADS GUILTY TO PROVIDING MATERIAL SUPPORT TO TERRORISTS" (June 18, 2008)

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - IPT News: "BEDIER REACHES NEW LOW ON USF PLEA" (June 16, 2008)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "GOOSE CREEK TWO Suspect pleads guilty" (June 13, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (THE TAMPA TRIBUNE): "FLORIDA MUSLIM STUDENT TO PLEAD GUILTY TO AIDING JIHADISTS" (June 13, 2008)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog (TAMPA TRIBUNE): "MYSTERY AT GOOSE CREEK UPDATE: BOMBS AWAY" (April 30, 2008, 10:54 am)

FreeRepublic.com - Discussion Forum (TBO.com): "TRANSLATIONS OF MOHAMED, MEGAHED DIALOGUE RELEASED (Goose Creek Case)" (April 18, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): "NEW CHARGES FOR NAIVE KIDS" (April 17, 2008)

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Tampa.FBI.gov - DOJ Press Release: Florida - "MOHAMED AND MEGAHED CHARGED IN SUPERSEDING INDICTMENT Mohamed Accused of Providing Material Support to Terrorism" (April 16, 2008)

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JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): "NEW CHARGES FOR NAIVE KIDS" (April 17, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (MyFoxTampaBay): "PIPE BOMB EVIDENCE CAN BE USED IN FLORIDA MUSLIM STUDENTS' CASE" (February 28, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (MyFoxTampaBay): "USF MUSLIM STUDENTS TRYING TO GET BOMB EVIDENCE THROWN OUT, SAY COP WAS RACIST" (February 20, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "PROSECUTOR: FLORIDA MUSLIM STUDENTS HAD EXPLOSIVES" (February 7, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (TAMPA TRIBUNE): "THIRD ARREST IN MOHAMED/MEGAHED CASE" (December 13, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (TAMPA TRIBUNE): "'MARTYRDOM' DETONATOR VIDEO DETAILS REVEALED IN 'NAIVE KIDS' CASE" (November 21, 2007)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "GOOSE CREEK TWO UPDATE: JUDGE DENIES MEGAHED BAIL REQUEST" (October 29, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): Tampa, Florida - "FLORIDA: MUSLIM STUDENT ACCUSED OF CARRYING BOMB-MAKING MATERIALS NOW SAYS HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN HIS CAR'S TRUNK" (October 24, 2007)

THE JAWA REPORT - blog: "TERROR SUSPECT WANTS HEARING CLOSED" (October 18, 2007)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "THE GOOSE CREEK TWO: MEGAHED REPORTEDLY RESEARCHED HIGH-POWERED RIFLES; ACCUSED OF SENDING CODED MESSAGES" (October 6, 2007, 09:30 am)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "THE GOOSE CREEK TWO, EGYPT, AND NATIONAL SECURITY" (October 4, 2007)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "EGYPT TO HIRE LAWYER FOR COLLEGE STUDENT FACING FEDERAL EXPLOSIVES CHARGES" (October 3, 2007)

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - IPT News: "AFFIDAVIT SHINES MORE LIGHT ON USF CASE" (September 27, 2007)

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MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "Breaking...MYSTERY AT GOOSE CREEK UPDATE: MAKING BOMBS TO SAVE A 'MARTYR'" (September 14, 2007, 05:42 PM)

More Links (September 27, 2007)

THE AVIATION NATION.com - blog: "USF TERROR SUSPECT HAD TWO PASSPORTS, DIFFERENT NAMES" (September 16, 2007)

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org: Tampa - "USF SUSPECT PRODUCED VIDEO ON REMOTE CONTROLLED EXPLOSIVES" (September 14, 2007)

FreeRepublic.com - Discussion Forum (BLOGS.TAMPABAY.com/ST. PETERSBURG TIMES): "CAR'S EXPLOSIVE CONTENTS REVEALED AT HEARING FOR USF STUDENTS" (September 14, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (ST. PETERSBURG TIMES): Tampa - "MUSLIM STUDENTS ARRESTED IN SC HAD BULLETS IN CAR" (September 6, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): "DADDY MEGAHED SAYS RACISM LED TO SON'S TERROR CHARGES" (September 3, 2007)

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org (IPT News): "INDICTED USF STUDENT HAS TERROR PAST IN EGYPT" (August 31, 2007)

US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: Washington - "TWO MEN INDICTED IN FLORIDA ON EXPLOSIVES CHARGES" (August 31, 2007)

Tampa.FBI.gov: Washington - "TWO MEN INDICTED IN FLORIDA ON EXPLOSIVES CHARGES" (August 31, 2007)

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MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "MYSTERY AT GOOSE CREEK UPDATE: FEDERAL GRAND JURY INVESTIGATES" (August 30, 2007)

MICHELLE MALKIN.com - blog: "MYSTERY AT GOOSE CREEK: WHO ARE THE ACCUSED PIPE BOMB BOYS?" (August 12, 2007, 1:51 pm)

TAMPA BAYS 10.com: Tampa, Florida - "PROSECUTOR: ISLAMIC STUDENTS HAD PIPE BOMBS" by Mike Deeson (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "She says she saw lot of traffic, a lot of people going back and forth, oxygen tanks being delivered UPS and Fed Ex deliveries and a lot going on.") (Last updated August 7, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (CHARLESTON NEWS AND COURIERS): Goose Creek - "SOUTH CAROLINA: 2 MUSLIMS CHARGED WITH FELONIES IN EXPLOSIVES SCARE" (Agusut 6, 2007)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "SOUTH CAROLINA POLICE CHARGE 2 STUDENTS WITH HAVING SEVERAL PIPE BOMBS NEAR NAVY BASE" (August 6, 2007)

CORRECTING DATE:

US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: Tampa, Florida - "TAMPA MAN SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS IN PRISON FOR PROVIDING MATERIAL SUPPORT TO TERRORISTS" (SNIPPET: "... Ahmed Abdellatif Sherif Mohamed, a resident of Tampa and native of Egypt...") (December 18, 2008) (Read More...)

“...at his intelligence...”

There’s your mistake, right there.

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So he was sentenced for the technical video on YouTube? Sounds a little questionable. Do any instructional videos on firearms now fall into this catagory? Or the people at gun shows who sell copies of the Anarchist's Cookbook?

I think being found with explosives in SC are going to be the real deal. Of course, this didn't help:

Prosecutors also gave more details about letters Mohamed had written while being housed at the Hillsborough County jail.

In a letter to a guard, Mohamed wrote, "You guys are seriously pathetic." He taunted them by calling them desperate housewives and housekeepers.

I still wonder why this young man in front of me at his age, at his intelligence, how he has become committed to this path

Until people see Mohammedanism as the nihilistic cult it is, they'll continue to wonder and the WOT will go on and on and on.

The video explained how to remotely detonate an IED. That's hardly in the same class as any video I can imagine one would make about guns. He admitted the video was intended as instruction for jihadis fighting American military (and other "invaders"). I find this disappointing:
Mohamed's guilty plea to the one count of providing material support to terrorists spared him from facing a life sentence in the prison on other charges.

What’s your point? Pleading guilty is a legal strategy. It doesn’t mean anything apart from that.

It was a plea deal. You don’t pick what you plead to like a buffet dish. That’s my point. It means plenty because he’ll do short time and still be a young jihadi when he’s released as opposed to rotting in prison for the rest of his natural life.

What's your point?

I stand by the statement that what he did that got charges brough - making a 'how to blow stuff up video' - is somewhat suspect to me given I want to know how to blow stuff, use a sniper rifle, etc. I'm not for or against the conviction, I'd just like to hear more opinions on it.

My point is that he was allowed to plead guilty to what is apparently a lesser charge since they compare it to life in prison for (some of?) the other charges against him. We are talking apples and oranges since your issue seems to be about how the law applied to what he did, whereas my complaint is he could have been locked up for a lot longer. Understand his plea included not just that he made the video, he plead to intent. Without reading the text of the law, proving intent would logically be part of it. I don’t see it as being too different from a conspiracy to murder charge.

compare it to life in prison for (some of?) the other charges against him

No, he is still being charged with being found with the fireworks, isn't he?

I'm just saying.... unless he handed the video to an Al Queda rather than just putting it on You Tube... it seems somewhat weak.

I had to go back and read up on the case. Initially the two were charged together but later the judge (after first denying) separated the (Count I?) of the indictment for the terrorism charges from the Count II which was the explosives charge.
I think I have it right in that the plea deal just reached and sentenced for Mohamed was for (charges including) “providing material support to terrorism, carrying a destructive device relating to that support of terrorism, and two counts of possessing a firearm in violation of his visa rules.” So he pleaded to the material support portion, which basically he admitted what you said, he provided al-quaida type training. I have to think the weapons charge (easily provable) and then tying the explosives they had to terrorism (more difficult to prove) were something Mohamed did not want to go to trial for. Or perhaps with the second (easier proved?) trial the prosecutors felt it would be better to offer a deal.
So there is going to be a second trial which will be for “illegally transporting explosives and illegally possessing destructive devices”, and they are joined for that case. I would think that is a slam dunk but I do not know what the possible sentence is.
I understand what you are saying about the video but I do think it relates to intent. When you add the video with the other issues- where they were caught, the stuff in the trunk etc etc, the anti-American poem the guy wrote, the stuff he said to the guards, then you start to get a clearer picture.

Meh. Yeah, the explosives charges are *kind* of a slam dunk, but only in the same way speeding is - so many people do it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these were fireworks, right?

re: the youtube video, hell, I don't know why he plead guilty. Needed a better lawyer, I think.

What this calls for is an extrajudicial solution, like this non-citizen disappearing in the middle of the night, rather than trying a case in a way that arguably subverts the 1st amendment.

I have to wonder what the deal really was with the “fireworks”. Dynamite it wasn’t. Maybe these guys are just jihadi wannabes. They were up to something though. Fireworks are easy to come by in SC. No need to go to a lot of trouble to make the pseudo pipe bombs.
I think he plead guilty because perhaps the weapons charge had a longer sentencing guideline. Who knows.
I’m not sure that an extrajudicial solution is better than a case that steps a fine line regards the 1st amendment. Is denying somebody due process better than making a prosecutor prove his video was not protected speech?
That said, if we were more “judicious” in who we allow into the country then maybe we wouldn’t have to step on the edges of the first amendment.
However we are fighting a war with people who have no rules regards warfare so we are in a bit of a damned if we do, damned if we don’t position.