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Bush says sacrificed free-market principles to save economy
American Free Press (AFP/Google News) ^ | December 17, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 12/17/2008 6:12:33 PM PST by LowCountryJoe

WASHINGTON (AFP) — US President George W. Bush said in an interview Tuesday he was forced to sacrifice free market principles to save the economy from "collapse."

"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system," Bush told CNN television, saying he had made the decision "to make sure the economy doesn't collapse."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bailout; bush; bush4communism; bush4socialism; economy; freemarket; liberals; rino; scum; socialists; traitor; vichy
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I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system

This could be on FailBlog.org

Bush's comments reflect an extraordinary departure from his longtime advocacy for an unfettered free market..

Interesting strategy Bush has had...grow the government to advocate for a free market. In Bush's defense he probably needed to do this in order to get many of the free market-hating SoCons FauxCons FoeCons to vote for him.

1 posted on 12/17/2008 6:12:33 PM PST by LowCountryJoe
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To: LowCountryJoe

W will be blamed by 0be, no matter what. Note that 0be is voting “present” by not being part of the gov’t at the moment.


2 posted on 12/17/2008 6:14:17 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: LowCountryJoe

I have no idea what he’s babbling about. Perhaps if he had real economic advisers?


3 posted on 12/17/2008 6:14:35 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Free market principles are what will save the economy dum dum. What a bird brain. Forbes 2000.


4 posted on 12/17/2008 6:14:43 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: LowCountryJoe
"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system,"

There hasn't been a free-market since I have been alive.
5 posted on 12/17/2008 6:16:22 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Same story here where I posted my GWB grips

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2150549/posts

Can I throw shoes at him now??


6 posted on 12/17/2008 6:17:58 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: LowCountryJoe

Well well..it would seem the White Flag has been raised on Free Trade/Globalism...

Not here to gloat, rather, what can be done? A quasi Centrally Planned economy is not very attractive either, but with GWB, the largest booster we’ve had for Free Markets waving the surrender banner...


7 posted on 12/17/2008 6:18:02 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: randomhero97

This hasn’t been a free country in general since long before I was born.


8 posted on 12/17/2008 6:18:47 PM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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To: LowCountryJoe
US President George W. Bush said in an interview Tuesday he was forced to sacrifice free market principles to save the economy from "collapse."

President Bush sacrificed free market principles for nothing. That is the economy is collapsing no matter what the government does, IMO. He is taking a sand bucket to stop a tsunami. I believe that the stealth socialism of the Democrats caused the quake that initiated the tsunami. I also believe that our country has no leadership that comes close to understanding what happened and what is happening to all of us.

9 posted on 12/17/2008 6:18:54 PM PST by olezip
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To: LowCountryJoe

Is that sort of like “I had to kill you to save you?”

I actually liked Bush during the beginning of his tenure. Not any more. He has become “simplified”...as in Liberal Simple.


10 posted on 12/17/2008 6:18:59 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: LowCountryJoe

GWB has clearly been influenced by way too many ‘Rats, some of whom he invited into his administration. What ever made him think they weren’t going to bury knives in his back here?


11 posted on 12/17/2008 6:19:58 PM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: padre35
but with GWB, the largest booster we’ve had for Free Markets

Wait, what?
12 posted on 12/17/2008 6:20:06 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: olezip
I also believe that our country has no leadership that comes close to understanding what happened and what is happening to all of us.

We are screwed. But at least people are going to get what they deserve.

13 posted on 12/17/2008 6:20:43 PM PST by MichiganConservative (You are a slave. The government is your owner and master. For many slaves, it is also their god.)
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To: LowCountryJoe
"I've abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system," Bush told CNN television, saying he had made the decision "to make sure the economy doesn't collapse."

I'm not sure why Bush did it, but it was a horribly expensive way to further damage the economy. Why couldn't he have done his damage cheaply - by just reminding people that our future will be in Obama's hands in only five weeks?That would cause any sensible American to panic, without wasting $80,000 of taxpayer dollars per family on disfunctional companies.

14 posted on 12/17/2008 6:21:34 PM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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To: LowCountryJoe
I'm sure Nobel Laureate Economist Paul Krugman agrees. Perhaps Bush will finally get some approval in the NYT editorial pages.

Meanwhile, in the real world, this is crazy talk.

15 posted on 12/17/2008 6:23:35 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: LowCountryJoe
We may not agree with Bush on this one, but I honestly believe that he personally feels it was was the right thing to do. He could have just as easily pushed it off to the Obama administration, but did it now.

I still disagree as I have on many issues, but still respect the man. It's always easy to be critical when your not in the other persons shoes.

16 posted on 12/17/2008 6:30:21 PM PST by rjamesca
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To: ScreamingFist
I have no idea what he’s babbling about. Perhaps if he had real economic advisers?

He had one, Lawrence Lindsey, but he was shown the door for being right. W never liked dealing with economics, and he's one of the worst economic presidents the country has ever had.

17 posted on 12/17/2008 6:30:40 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: sickoflibs

You don’t see many Bushbots anymore. I’d throw my shoes at the tv but I can’t afford a new TV.


18 posted on 12/17/2008 6:31:16 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: LowCountryJoe

What he has really done is taught business leaders that you can play any damn games you want with your $$, and mama Government will bail you out. Lord knows how long it will take us to wake up from this foolishness. My bet is not in my (remaining) lifetime.


19 posted on 12/17/2008 6:32:20 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Impy

RE :”You don’t see many Bushbots anymore”

They all are here still posting, I threw a few shoes at them LOL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2150549/posts


20 posted on 12/17/2008 6:34:26 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: sickoflibs
Congratulations, you stand with Code Pink. Go shoe yourself.
21 posted on 12/17/2008 6:41:07 PM PST by kristinn
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To: LowCountryJoe

This will rank right up there with “we had to destroy the village in order to save it”.


22 posted on 12/17/2008 6:42:12 PM PST by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: LowCountryJoe; Impy

What the #$@%# ????

No he sacrificed his principles to make voters hate and ridicule him. I read Coulters Slander back around 2001 and believed her, but she was wrong and libs were right, GWB is stupid, very stupid, the worse type, he is so stupid he thinks he is smart. I had to admit to my liberal neighbors coworkers I was wrong and they were right, and I DONT LIKE DOING THAT!!

A BUSHBOT POSTED :”In a couple of years, we will all be waxing nostalgic about the Bush years.At least we got tax cuts, strong defense, Alito and Roberts, morality in the White House and an attempt to fix Social Security. We will get NOTHING of the sort from Barky.”

Tax cuts and social security reform? Of course we got tax cuts, he put trillions on OUR credit card. Social security?? How can he give us Social security savings accounts when he is putting trillions on our Credit card?

That’s like telling your wife you are raising her allowance, writing checks from HER credit card then leaving her with dept and saying, “I bet she misses her generous allowance I gave her.”

Or with Social security savings account, you offer to open wife a savings account with a credit card check on her credit card, then say you TRIED to help her save. Did I mention stupid??? Stupid!

Can I throw shoes at him now???


23 posted on 12/17/2008 6:42:22 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: MathDoc
This is the part that really pisses me off...

"I feel a sense of obligation to my successor to make sure there is not a, you know, a huge economic crisis. Look, we're in a crisis now. I mean, this is -- we're in a huge recession, but I don't want to make it even worse."

He feels an obligation to Obama and not the American people.

George, sign the papers tomorrow and resign.

24 posted on 12/17/2008 6:44:24 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: olezip

>>”I also believe that our country has no leadership that comes close to understanding what happened and what is happening to all of us.”<<

They understand fully what is happening and everything is going according to a plan that was launched many years ago. Can you say “New World Order” i.e. Globalism? Police State and Martial Law in the U.S. is only one signature away....that of the Zer0 himself via an Presidential Executive Order.

BLOAT because it is coming soon.


25 posted on 12/17/2008 6:45:27 PM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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To: kristinn; Impy

RE “Congratulations, you stand with Code Pink. Go shoe yourself.”

The circle the GWB wagons days are over. General Bush led us into multiple ambushes and he is still dropping shells on the conservative side, after dividing us.

But to use your logic, “you stand with the illegal mexicans that your hero tried to give Social Security, now got back follow them over the border since their construction jobs disappeared”

I would not defend him against Code Pink as he cuts deals with Pelosi. They are mad at Pelosi too, but I will not help her because they are mad.


26 posted on 12/17/2008 6:49:49 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: Impy

>>”I’d throw my shoes at the tv but I can’t afford a new TV.”<<

Do like I did and buy a red sponge, cut it to the size of a brick and throw at will. It really does help, believe me!


27 posted on 12/17/2008 6:50:31 PM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Why not - he sacrificed conservative principles to save the Republican party and look how that worked out.


28 posted on 12/17/2008 6:53:39 PM PST by slumber1
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To: sickoflibs

I wouldn’t expect someone as full of yourself as you are to defend him from our Nation’s enemies. Enjoy the next four years. You’ve earned them.


29 posted on 12/17/2008 6:54:42 PM PST by kristinn
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To: randomhero97

ping


30 posted on 12/17/2008 6:55:58 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: sickoflibs

Well I flat out have the derangement syndrome know so I’m biased. There is no cure.

You can go back to 2001. He signed McLame-Feingold and that blaoted Farm bill. Should have known he would suck. I was just 16 in 2000 until my birthday in October but I didn’t like him when he was running. Until it was him or McCain in the primaries then he looked great.

I’m wondering if a D- is too generous a grade for him.


31 posted on 12/17/2008 6:55:59 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: sickoflibs

save your shoes for Hoovervelt, the president elect.


32 posted on 12/17/2008 6:56:27 PM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: Post Toasties

But don’t waste your last pair on Hoovervelt.


33 posted on 12/17/2008 7:02:32 PM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: kristinn; Impy; swordfishtrombone; fhayek; meandog; ari-freedom; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

RE “Enjoy the next four years. You’ve earned them.”

No you have. Your hero gave democrats the government, the economy, and the WOT. And yet he spends his last days trying to give them more. God gave him a gift, his own party congress for 6 years, and he used it to bring ruin. And you are like the loyal believers in the movie “Downfall”, believing “everyone betrayed him”

Except I was a true believer too until I saw what he was doing(November 2006 final wakeup call too late), that is the source of my bitterness. Betraying my trust. But some like you , cant break out of their dream.


34 posted on 12/17/2008 7:04:07 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: Post Toasties

LOL, Yep!

At least we can pull together again under him, against him.

How can we get McCain to shut up?


35 posted on 12/17/2008 7:06:12 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: Impy

RE :. Until it was him or McCain in the primaries then he looked great.

You are young. Rush pushed him as Reagan in 2000, and I trusted Rush in those days because he sort of led the anti-democrat rebellion in 1993 against newly elected Clinton.

I learned “never trust a believer”, verify what they say, their vision is clouded. Rush came around when I did 2006.

I still hate McCain!


36 posted on 12/17/2008 7:12:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: sickoflibs
I feel special. You pinged some flying monkeys to help you out.

You need to get your history straight. The 'Rats controlled the Senate in the 107th Congress. And President Bush was being backstabbed by John McCain througout his term on things like McCain-Feingold, energy independence and the war.

37 posted on 12/17/2008 7:17:54 PM PST by kristinn
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To: LowCountryJoe
Translation: I've abandoned free-market principles in order to destroy America.

There. And anyone considering himself an American to actually state that he abandoned free market principles is a lunatic.

State alert and on point FReepers, out of these ashes will rise some good leadership I'm convinced. But studying history, we all know that it will take awhile, it won't be fast process, new leadership will be severely tested and sifted. This is going to take a Churchillian quality of courage.

38 posted on 12/17/2008 7:22:24 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: kristinn

Good catch, it was between 5 and 6 years, not quite 6.

Yes, I hate McCain, always did. But he voted against UAW bailout so at moment is not in my face but he will be next year causing trouble. I keep on telling republicans MCC would finish destroying party if he won.


39 posted on 12/17/2008 7:24:00 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: kristinn; Impy; swordfishtrombone; fhayek; meandog; ari-freedom; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

RE :The ‘Rats controlled the Senate in the 107th Congress”

While GWB may have had congress a bit over 5 years the public thinks he had it 8. Since he did nothing to run against congress when Pelosi’s whole strategy was to use him to win 2 elections, I have little sympathy. Lastly, his re-election in 2004 was truly a gift from God and he squandered it, threw it away (except Alto and Roberts, but he tried Meyers first.) 2005-2006 he must have been drinking again. 2006-2008 he cut deals with Pelosi against his party, 2008 election democrats ran the “Get Bush back” election. And Now the bailouts!

I think the flying Monkeys went to bed!


40 posted on 12/17/2008 7:34:46 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: LowCountryJoe

Just a little more Compassionate Conservatism.


41 posted on 12/17/2008 7:41:10 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: sickoflibs

Rather interesting that you bring up Social Security. Bush made reform a significant part of his 2000 campaign, and got stabbed in the back for it. If he was a smaller man, I’d say he’s giving you the finger for blaming him for it now.


42 posted on 12/17/2008 7:48:05 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; Impy; swordfishtrombone; fhayek; meandog; ari-freedom; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

RE : Bush made SS reform a significant part of his 2000 campaign

2005 he tried that but was a disaster, first because of debt, next he was willing to raise cap on SS taxes, and third open savings accounts for illegals paying no income tax. He had no credibility, you cant judge each issue in a vacuum. Oh yes, democrats played it as a SS in stock market issue, think that would sell now?? You would get hanged,

GWB= disaster!


43 posted on 12/17/2008 8:03:05 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: sickoflibs
2005-2006 he must have been drinking again.

Your DU-type insults of President Bush render you not worth my time. Buh-bye.

44 posted on 12/17/2008 8:12:38 PM PST by kristinn
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To: sickoflibs

I figured I’d see some historical revisionism here, and I’m not disappointed. It’s also rather humorous to see people who never supported Bush (your comment about the WOT tipped it off) claim they were “betrayed.” Good fun all around.


45 posted on 12/17/2008 8:21:14 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: kristinn

Those two years 2005-2006 were indefensible and is what did us in. They were most painful for me, a once believer, then 2007 came and immigration reform(fall 2006 too), yikes!

Good night, I am sleepy too.


46 posted on 12/17/2008 8:21:33 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: 1rudeboy

Until 2006 election. But 2005-2006 I was worried, but December 2006 I saw the light. But heck, GWB legacy is Obama/Pelosi and I am sure they will keep us safe!


47 posted on 12/17/2008 8:23:51 PM PST by sickoflibs (GWB : "Give me a 700B blank check to save the UAW until Obama takes office")
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To: sickoflibs

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Got it.


48 posted on 12/17/2008 8:25:03 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: LowCountryJoe

Please please stop, Mr. Bush.

Nobody can seriously make the case that Bush has been some kind of Milton Friedman-esque libertarian on economic policy, yet here he is, providing ammo for socialists and other big-government types to claim “see? Bush was too free market and that led to a recession,” and “there are no libertarians in financial crises.”


49 posted on 12/17/2008 9:20:52 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: sickoflibs

“Oh yes, democrats played it as a SS in stock market issue, think that would sell now??”

well, most conservatives played up the idea of investing their SS money in stocks. They like to be able to do everything they want with all their money.

But stocks will always go up and down and most Americans aren’t ready for that risk. And the whole point of SS is that it is universal so that a person who didn’t do anything to save wouldn’t be a total welfare case.

What they should have done was say they are for private accounts but the $ would be placed in money markets, CD’s, individual bonds or a bond index fund. This way you’d still own your retirement, make a decent return and the plan would have a better chance at passing in the first place.


50 posted on 12/17/2008 10:08:34 PM PST by ari-freedom (Conservatives solve problems. Libertarians ignore problems. Liberals create problems.)
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