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New Weapons Out Of China, Russia
NewsMax ^ | December 16, 2008 | By Charles R. Smith

Posted on 12/17/2008 9:10:44 AM PST by Fennie

The U.S. is now facing a wide new array of weapons being marketed worldwide by Moscow and Beijing. In some cases the weapons are of Western origin. In other cases, the weapons in question are obtained from Russia and China. One such weapon sale threatens to upend the balance of power in the Middle East.

Russia stands poised to sell Iran one of the most advanced antimissile systems ever developed despite repeated denials from Moscow. Iran plans to acquire the Russian SA-20 -- NATO codenamed "Gargoyle" -- surface-to-air-missile.

The SA-20 is not only a challenge to the air forces of other Gulf States but to even the most advanced U.S. aircraft. The SA-20 can shoot down aircraft (without stealth technology) at ranges in excess of 100 miles.

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KEYWORDS: armstrade; china; coldwar2; communism; iran; israel; missiledefense; proliferation; redchina; russia; sovietunion

1 posted on 12/17/2008 9:10:44 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Sounds like we need to sell more stealth technology to Israel.


2 posted on 12/17/2008 9:11:54 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

We’ll probably sell it to China instead,if past actions are indicative.Meanwhile,back in the US,GM is asking for taxpayer bailout money as they ramp up production in China and says they won’t shut down Russian plants,while they will shut down US plants for the month of January.


3 posted on 12/17/2008 9:16:02 AM PST by quack ("Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.")
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To: Slapshot68

Why? Israel is selling to Russia which sells to Iran. Why don’t we sell weapons to the gangs in our cities. What the hell, they wouldn’t use them on us would they. The world is full of fools.


4 posted on 12/17/2008 9:17:18 AM PST by RC2
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To: RC2

Each country looks out after its own national interests. Israel worries about Israel. Notice that they are selling predator unmanned drones to Russia.

This country need to recognize that there are forces out there that want to dismember this country and to kill its citizens, rape its women and use the men as slaves. This is why we need the Marines.


5 posted on 12/17/2008 9:28:35 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

“Notice that they are selling predator unmanned drones to Russia.”

Maybe Israel has embedded code in software that when these get in the wrong hands, give them control or monitoring capability.


6 posted on 12/17/2008 9:39:41 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Fennie
With president Chosen One, our military will have drastic changes in weapons systems. Our anti-aircraft weapons will be a huge wooden sling shot and we will shoot big rocks at the passing Red Chinese and Soviet aircraft attacking. Our artillery will be the same thing. Our ships will be wooden again. Air force?? We don't need no stinking air force. Nope, president Chosen One will see us in the 3d Century with the weapons systems we will have.
7 posted on 12/17/2008 9:46:39 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Great patriotic stuff at www.patriotstore.us.)
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To: George from New England

“Maybe Israel has embedded code in software that when these get in the wrong hands, give them control or monitoring capability.”

Even if they did that, they are still screwing us. Then they want our F-22 aircraft? Forget it, that plane should stay US only!


8 posted on 12/17/2008 9:47:13 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: Slapshot68

Don’t worry. One of Obama’s plans is to sell or give our secrets to Russia and China in exchange for putting pressure on Iran.


9 posted on 12/17/2008 12:18:44 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: George from New England

The Russians and Chinese will tear the thing apart and reverse engineer it, thus getting rid of any bugging problems.


10 posted on 12/17/2008 12:19:37 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Londo Molari

O will give Russia and China the design specs for the F-22 and F-35, and the NMD systems as a sign of “Friendship”


11 posted on 12/17/2008 12:20:30 PM PST by Thunder90
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12 posted on 12/17/2008 12:28:22 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Israel didn’t sell predators to Russia.
it doesn’t even have the predator.
Israel develops and produces it’s own unmanned drones and has received a request from Russia to by them, but it hasn’t agreed yet.


13 posted on 12/17/2008 1:02:05 PM PST by kahana
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14 posted on 12/17/2008 3:26:06 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Thunder90

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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
Reuters: Aug 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

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16 posted on 12/17/2008 6:40:35 PM PST by JACKRUSSELL
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To: Thunder90

It looks like commie old home week.


17 posted on 12/17/2008 9:10:19 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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