Posted on 12/14/2008 8:24:26 PM PST by The Conservative Yogini
This was passed on to me from Joe Thunder at FreedomMarch.org. Please let your CA conservative friends know!
The Alan Keyes Legal Team will hold a press conference tomorrow Mon. 12-15-08 12:30 PM at the CA State Capitol in Sacramento, CA. Please help spread. Attendance is needed for media coverage. Official Info is as follows: Location: CA State Capitol - Corner of "L" and 11th Streets, Sacramento, CA 12:30 PM 1. Attend 2. Bring signs with out sticks. 3. Bring your birth certificate and show it to the media. Official Press Release Follows:
RE: AIP/Electoral College Capitol Press Conference set for Monday
For Immediate Release - Event Notice - Press Conference
Time: Mon 12-15-08, 12:30 PM Place: California State Capitol, Sacramento California at the Corner of “L” and 11th Streets Topic: Unlawful Occupation of Presidency and Invalid Electoral College Process Conference Contact: Tony Andrade, 916-230-2123; Tony95683@netzero.net Media Contact: Markham Robinson, State Chairman, American Independent Party; Party HQ 707-359-4884 Home: 707-448-7062; Office: 707-451-8985; Temp Cell: 707-761-3009; Fax: 707-222-6040
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BUMP!
Beyond that, there is no “president elect” UNTIL the Electoral College votes. So Mr. Obama is lying when he issues statements from the “Office” of the President Elect.
Seems like they are thinking the California court will say no thanks. On to the Supremes.
Remember the days we used to see Alan Keyes’ name and be proud? It just doesn’t happen anymore. Sorry.
I’m always proud of Alan Keyes.
You? Not so much.
Agreed. Nutjobs.
Can anyone explain to me why there is such animosity against Alan Keyes? The guy has more guts, brains and passion than the dreck we have in the RINO-controlled GOP.
Plus Keyes is brilliant in constitutional knowledge.
I have come to respect Alan Keyes more because he is standing up for the Consitution and We, the People, by pursuing this issue (Obama’s hidden birth certificate).
How any American can NOT care that our President-Elect is hiding something from us is frightening and infuriating. If he has nothing to hide, he wouldn’t be hiding it. And that is a “no ‘hit ‘herlock” statement.
Unsuccessful. Uncle Tom. Not Liberal.
I always liked the guy myself, but FR is a tough crowd...
Alan Keyes is the only person who can do this and not be accused of racism. And you know what, even he will be accused of racism by some in the Obama quarter. I’ve never been the biggest fan of his, but can you imagine if a white man was leading this campaign questioning Obamas validity? The question of whether this is a valid issue would be immediately buried, where Keyes is immune to many of the tactics that might otherwise be employed.
In my opinion, the nutjobs are the ones who don’t seem to understand the enormity of the situation. We have someone about to become president who is giving Americans the “bird” when it comes to his past and his birth certificate.
Why do you, and Hildy, think this is a non-issue? What evidence do you two have that Obama is, in fact, eligible to hold the office of President and Commander-in-Chief. Has he shown you two his birth certificate? If so, please do share it with the rest of us who have not been allowed to see it. Has he shown you his other records as well? College, for example?
If you don’t have these records, then you don’t know anymore than the rest of us. And yet, you don’t care. That sort of mindset is what is going to destroy this country....from the inside, out.
I came to really respect Ambassador Keyes when I used to listen to his radio show. People sometimes confuse true passion for insanity. I think that he is a great man. At least he takes a stand on what he believes in.
I do believe that we think alike.
Look what the wolves did to Ron Paul, another man who holds the Constitution in reverence.
I'll tell you why I have animosity against Alan Keyes. It's because he held out so much hope of being another Ronald Reagan, but as I got to know him (through his TV program) I came to realize that he was motivated almost exclusively by his own ego.
He had everything *except* the requisite humility - and it was a a huge letdown to me.
Oh my God....if this is what you’re hanging your hat on...you’re in for a crushing blow. But besides that, I wasn’t commenting on Obama’s birth certificate, I was commenting on how Alan Keyes has become a joke, and I stand by that assertion.
the feeling, I assure you, is quite mutual.
His ego borders on psychotic...and that’s the problem. He is a genius, not doubt about that, but there is certainly a touch of madness in him that frankly scares the hell out of me.
I’m glad.
At least someone has the courage to stand up to the
slippery socialist slide into communism.
I guess anyone you consider sane is a spineless rino
who sells out our country.
I'm still proud of him. He is one of the few that "still gets it". He understands the connection between the economy and security of a nation with its morality.
Their closet socialists?
I think the humility factor is but one of several. Whatever his sense of humor is, and humor is a large part of humanity, it's hidden.
On financial matters, he has the reputation of a grifter. I think that criticism is a crutch of his critics; that is, the grifter criticism is not of much weight.
His observations and suggestions deserve serious reflection, and it's a shame that his comments come "pre-rebutted" merely for coming from him.
Y’all still haven’t decided who the disloyal Obama electors are supposed to vote for. McCain? Biden? Hillary?
This is the most uncontested, contested election in history. If Hillary had just brought this issue up last year, she would be getting sworn in on Jan 20, yes?
LBJ ‘68, Ford ‘76, Carter ‘80, Bush ‘92. All were incumbent Presidents challenged in primaries. I predict Obama won’t even run ‘12. A failed presidency.
BTW, there is a reason an elector or 2 is disloyal. Any election that goes to the House, someone who received zero electoral votes is ineligible. Only top 3 vote getters.
I am still waiting for the Tilden vs. Hayes historians to hold their rally. That is one rally I would attend.
There's a fine line between true genius and madness.
And sometimes, in times like these, a little madness is what you need.
The Left has made either drones or cowards out of most of the U.S. Who will stand up to Obama and counter the almost air-tight corruption of his rise to power?
Who?
Well .. Ron Paul is also an isolationist who does not believe there is ever a reason to go to war.
Therefore, whether he holds the Constitution in reverence or not .. he’s not president material. The President’s primary job is to protect the people .. and if he won’t even fight for America .. how can he be her president.
I agree with you.
While I’m sure you’re qualified to speak about madness I doubt if you’re qualified to diagnose it.
Alan Keyes is a Constitutional Scholar. If you’re not proud, then that is your problem.
Then again, have you honestly thought about why you now believe the way you believe now? TURN OFF THE TV
That is all I will say.....
He’s unabashedly Christian, black, conservative, pro-life and highly intelligent. People get intimidated.
Thank you expressing it so succinctly.
Hopefully somebody that holds a bit of clout...not somebody who is considered a joke. I'm just the messenger, people. I'm very surprised by how I've been attacked for stating what most everbody already knows.
Do you believe how I’m being attacked. LOL! Are conservatives here that far beaten down that they can’t even stand back for one moment and question someone who shares their opinion but be honest in an assessment?
At least Alan Keyes is trying to do something to preserve our Constitution.
A situation that will be taken care of today.
What evidence do you have that he's not?
Constitutionally, it is not in the Presidents power to declare war, that authority is reserved to Congress. The President can only declare peace.
Article I / Section 8 / Clause 11
The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure.
~George Washington
The executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.
~James Madison
The power of declaring war, with all its train of consequences, direct and indirect, forms the next branch of the powers confided to congress; and happy it is for the people of America that it is so vested.
St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries 1803
He's not a pacifist. You have your facts wrong. He says he would secure our borders and hunt down the 9/11 planners.
Are you saying Alan Keyes' solutions are moderate in comparison? Examples please.
“What evidence do you have that he’s not?”
I find your response typical of those who are arguing that we should not be concerned and/or should not pursue the issue of Obama’s refusal to provide Americans with his birth certificate that would prove once and for all if he is in fact eligible to be president.
I, we, should not have to provide the evidence. The onus is not on us. Anyone who wants to be president should be the one to prove to US that he/she is eligible.
If I hire someone to work for me and a birth certificate is required in accordance with the law, it is NOT up to ME to prove that they are or are not eligible. It is up to the person applying. If they don’t provide me with legal documentation, they cannot be considered for the position.
Like I’ve said before, those who don’t care about the fact that Obama is REFUSING to produce a legal birth certificate either don’t understand the situation, or don’t care.
“Oh my God....if this is what you’re hanging your hat on...you’re in for a crushing blow. But besides that, I wasn’t commenting on Obama’s birth certificate, I was commenting on how Alan Keyes has become a joke, and I stand by that assertion.”
Hanging my hat on what? I do not feel hopeful that this issue is going to be resolved but that doesn’t stop me from wanting it to be resolved; and for good reason.
You say you weren’t commenting on Obama’s birth certificate issue when you said that Alan Keyes has become a joke. I assumed you were commenting on the topic of the thread, not just some offhand dig at Keyes for the heck of it.
And I find your rely oh so typical of those who expect Obama to do their work for them.
I, we, should not have to provide the evidence. The onus is not on us. Anyone who wants to be president should be the one to prove to US that he/she is eligible.
The onus should be on you. Not a single presidential candidate has ever had to provide their birth certificate. Nothing in the law says how that is to be done or what agency is tasked with checking candidate eligibility. Obama has said he was born in Hawaii. You're calling him, to put it bluntly, a liar. Shouldn't you have to show why you say he lying before he responds?
If I hire someone to work for me and a birth certificate is required in accordance with the law, it is NOT up to ME to prove that they are or are not eligible.
And there in lies the rub. Show me the law that says Obama has to show his birth certificate.
Like I’ve said before, those who don’t care about the fact that Obama is REFUSING to produce a legal birth certificate either don’t understand the situation, or don’t care.
Or are puzzled by the inability of those doubting that Obama was born here to be able to provide any solid evidence that he wasn't.
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