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GOP Senator Warns of 'Riots' if Automakers Are Bailed Out
Business & Media Institute ^ | 12/11/08 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 12/11/2008 10:54:13 PM PST by Sammy67

Time and again we’ve heard about the lost jobs and economic impact of failing to bail out the beleaguered American auto manufacturers. But little mention has been made of the consequences of going through with the bailout, and how such an action would be viewed by other Americans.

In an interview following a Dec. 10 press conference where he and four other senators aired their opposition to the proposed bailout deal struck by congressional leaders and the White House (and approved by the U.S. House of Representatives 237-170 that evening), Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., warned that the perception that some industries are being bailed out and some aren’t could lead to violence.

“We’re going to have riots. There are already people rioting because they’re losing their jobs when everybody else is being bailed out. The fairness of it becomes more and more evident as we go along. The auto companies may be hurting,” he said, but “there are very few companies that aren’t hurting and they’re going to hurt. We don’t have enough money to bail everyone out.”

DeMint blamed the unions for

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1 posted on 12/11/2008 10:54:14 PM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67
....We don’t have enough money to bail everyone out....

This man is my hero.

2 posted on 12/11/2008 10:56:03 PM PST by Ronzo (Poetry can be a better tool of understanding than tedious scribblings of winners of the Noble Prize)
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To: Sammy67

“There are already people rioting because they’re losing their jobs when everybody else is being bailed out.”

I’ve missed the riots. Is that true or hyperbole?


3 posted on 12/11/2008 10:56:06 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Sammy67

Good! Peaceful riots in great numbers may be what it’s going to take. This crazy bailing out private companies and printing money which is going to destroy our economy and make us vulnerable has to STOP NOWWWWWWWWWWW


4 posted on 12/11/2008 10:56:31 PM PST by KellyM37
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To: KellyM37
Peaceful Riot?


5 posted on 12/11/2008 10:59:56 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (SARAH *** JOE *** 2012!)
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To: Ronzo

Demint for President. Lets have a rally in Iowa and start the campaign. And Inhof for VP. Or Sessions. No Rinos allowed.


6 posted on 12/11/2008 11:02:20 PM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: EDINVA

All animals are created equal. Cept some are more equal than others. Give a kid Animal Farm and Atlas Shrugs for Christmas.


7 posted on 12/11/2008 11:04:21 PM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: Sammy67

“GOP Senator Warns of ‘Riots’ if Automakers Are Bailed Out”

WHAT? Put down the remote and actually DO something?

PA-LEEEZE!


8 posted on 12/11/2008 11:07:30 PM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: Grunthor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLKOkmmRIKc&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/11/jim-demint-well-have-riots-if-the-auto-bailout-passes/


9 posted on 12/11/2008 11:07:52 PM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

If I was one of the yuppies who had a quarter to a third of my life savings wiped out I would be out picketing (to say the least).

Ah well, please pass the latte.


10 posted on 12/11/2008 11:22:05 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I refuse allegiance to any foreign born alleged president.)
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To: Sammy67
What we are going thru right now is the direct result of borrow borrow borrow to spend spend spend. It is impossible to create long term prosperity by borrowing for consumption.
11 posted on 12/11/2008 11:29:58 PM PST by ajay_kumar (Sacrificial RINO's in 2012, Real Conservatives in 2016)
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To: Sammy67; All
I have mixed emotions on this. I would like to see the Auto Companies helped. It is vital that we keep our manufacturing base intact. We have lost so much of our manufacturing already. Losing our auto industry might destroy US manufacturing for good.

I'm not impressed with DeMint the way some others are. He's wrong on this issue. The Auto Industry should be top priority for our survival.

I'm against government involvement in the free market in principle but government caused this financial meltdown and hence the problems with GM and the others. Recovery will come one day and people will need to buy cars. Some people on this site are almost orgasmic with delight at the demise of the US Auto Industry. they are very sick people.
12 posted on 12/11/2008 11:53:06 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Sammy67

Give anybody who buys a new car from the Big Three a 300% tax credit.


13 posted on 12/11/2008 11:57:52 PM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Sammy67
move the union under the control of the government with a no strike clause
14 posted on 12/12/2008 12:15:52 AM PST by jrd
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To: truthguy

Semi-agree. I wouldn’t mind so much if they weren’t talking about having all these strings attached- like the “auto-czar.” I hear a lot of our esteemed politicans saying, “well we can’t just give them the loans because they’ll be back for more. We need oversight and commitments, blah, blah blah.” I’d actually rather them just give them the loans (if they’re going to do it anyway)Make it clear there will be no more after that, and then that’s it.


15 posted on 12/12/2008 1:38:30 AM PST by SMCC1
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To: truthguy

I respectfully disagree.

This is not manufacturing bailout, it is a Union bailout. This is why all the Dems support it.

Unions are the problem.


16 posted on 12/12/2008 2:13:54 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: All

Wonder if DeMint meant by “riots” was the takeover of the factory at Republic Window?

Kinda mixed on the American automakers bailout. DeMint has been consistent on all the bailout stuff....he was against the finance industry bailout....but some of the ones who pushed the finance bailout are against the auto bailout...and have put the GOP in a tenuous position in some of the heavy industry states.

The best way to save the American auto industry is to dump the Liberal Globalist/Free Trade nonsense...and start putting tariffs on foreign made autos. Use the tarriff money to aid the American auto industry.

I am beginning to question any and all Free Traders on their patriotism....do you prefer America and American made over products made by our enemies?


17 posted on 12/12/2008 2:18:15 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (2010: A RINO Purge Odyssey)
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To: truthguy

“I’m against government involvement in the free market in principle but government caused this financial meltdown and hence the problems with GM and the others.”

(no reply needed... )


18 posted on 12/12/2008 2:33:50 AM PST by This_far
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

“If I was one of the yuppies who had a quarter to a third of my life savings wiped out I would be out picketing (to say the least).”

Well, I’m not a yuppie, but I’m a white collar worker, and I lost some 55% of the value of my IRAs and 401Ks. I’ll be 58 on my next birthday. My retirement funds are, for all practical purposes, wiped out for retirement purposes. Put simply, I will never be able to retire, as I don’t have enough time for the market to bounce back so I can recover what I have lost.


19 posted on 12/12/2008 3:41:59 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: neverbluffer

“This is not manufacturing bailout, it is a Union bailout. This is why all the Dems support it. Unions are the problem.”

Agreed.


20 posted on 12/12/2008 3:42:51 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: truthguy
I'm against government involvement in the free market in principle but government caused this financial meltdown and hence the problems with GM and the others. Recovery will come one day and people will need to buy cars.
fine...scrap the cafe standards / drill for oil / let loose the free market / reduce Governments controls...taxes...don't bail-out the unions/auto co. for their stupid decisions.
"Trioka / Footstool of Liberalism...Corruption, Nationalization & Propaganda" Rush Limbuagh
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21 posted on 12/12/2008 3:55:06 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: truthguy

Uh...OK Mr/Ms TruthGuy, so you say ‘Good intentions are not enough!’ but, but, your free market principles seem to disappear when the going gets tough, why even bother to have any credibility?
Situational Principles, IOWs a feather in the wind.


22 posted on 12/12/2008 4:01:43 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: truthguy
The US Car industry is not under threat. The Big 3 are under threat - indeed they are already dead. Time for them to collapse and for their assets and their useful workers to be taken up by companies that know how to run at a profit. Then the US car industry - people in the US, making cars - will do fine.

Any business which cannot operate without massive gifts from Government is not a business, it is a welfare scheme.

23 posted on 12/12/2008 4:19:18 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: Ronzo
This man is my hero.

We need to remember his name (and the other good guys) the next time someone says that there is no difference between the two parties.

24 posted on 12/12/2008 5:08:35 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy (Brian De Palma hates America)
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To: jrd
move the union under the control of the government with a no strike clause

Pass a national "right to work" law so that when these union thugs strike, there's be thousands lined up to take their place without having to pay homage to the UAW/DNC. As it stands now, the union has all the leverage due to the government giving them much greater bargaining rights than they give to the owners of the companies.

25 posted on 12/12/2008 5:16:47 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: truthguy
I'm against government involvement in the free market in principle but government caused this financial meltdown and hence the problems with GM and the others.

Just as with the credit crisis, the government has a hand in causing this, but the government absolutely refuses to make a move to undo the damaging regulations that have helped put GM into this position. Until the UAW loses it's legally-granted leverage, the auto companies will continue to fail. Until Washington gets rid of some of the unfunded mandates (can you say 'brownfields') on industries, they will not modernize.

As a taxpayer, I'm not of the mind that they need to be bailed out with money stolen from my paycheck. Chapter 11 bankruptcy is the correct path here, as it will allow the automakers to get out from under union contracts among other expenses, and emerge as viable competitors again.

26 posted on 12/12/2008 5:23:30 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: truthguy
Losing our auto industry might destroy US manufacturing for good.

For the umpteenth time, we are not losing our auto industry. We are shedding some non-competitive parts of it.

27 posted on 12/12/2008 7:25:40 AM PST by realdifferent1 (We've tried the soap box, jury box and ballot box. Only one box left.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
do you prefer America and American made over products made by our enemies?

What if "America-made" products are "made by our enemies," i.e. the unions?

28 posted on 12/12/2008 7:40:20 AM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: ought-six

You are not alone,FRiend. This is probably the worst thing which has happenned in our lifetime and too few people realize it until it engulfs them.


29 posted on 12/12/2008 8:15:07 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (I refuse allegiance to any foreign born alleged president.)
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To: Sammy67
If the bailout buyout is complete and the government takes over the companies, does this mean everybody gets the retirement package that the UAW has with the big three?
30 posted on 12/12/2008 11:38:44 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (Her couch is tougher than 0bama.)
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To: neverbluffer; All
I respectfully disagree. This is not manufacturing bailout, it is a Union bailout. This is why all the Dems support it. Unions are the problem.

Yes the UAW is a large part of the problem. I wish they would go away but they will not, at least for the time being. We have to deal with the situation at hand. The UAW will make the concessions necessary if the auto companies survive.
31 posted on 12/12/2008 10:58:31 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: skinkinthegrass; All
I'm against government involvement in the free market in principle but government caused this financial meltdown and hence the problems with GM and the others. Recovery will come one day and people will need to buy cars. fine...scrap the cafe standards / drill for oil / let loose the free market / reduce Governments controls...taxes...don't bail-out the unions/auto co. for their stupid decisions

You are correct for the most part. However I don't think the car companies made as many stupid decisions as you might think. Running any industrial company in a world wide environment is extremely difficult. Running a company like GM, Ford, or Chrysler in today's environment with the UAW and the associated baggage is just about the toughest job around. If you think the Car Companies have made stupid decisions then list about a half dozen or so that you think have merit. Be specific.
32 posted on 12/12/2008 11:06:02 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: iopscusa; All
Uh...OK Mr/Ms TruthGuy, so you say ‘Good intentions are not enough!’ but, but, your free market principles seem to disappear when the going gets tough, why even bother to have any credibility? Situational Principles, IOWs a feather in the wind.

I've studies situational ethics as well. A huge amount of the problems Detroit is having is because of stupid policies coming out of Washington D.C. from our Federal Government. They are responsible for many of the policies that have hurt the Auto Manufacturers and other industrial companies as well. The Federal Government is nearly 100% responsible for the Credit Crunch we are now experiencing now. This is what is killing the auto companies at the moment.
33 posted on 12/12/2008 11:11:40 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: agere_contra; All
The US Car industry is not under threat. The Big 3 are under threat - indeed they are already dead. Time for them to collapse and for their assets and their useful workers to be taken up by companies that know how to run at a profit. Then the US car industry - people in the US, making cars - will do fine. Any business which cannot operate without massive gifts from Government is not a business, it is a welfare scheme.

You post is breathtaking in its stupidity. It's really stupidity squared. The US Car Industry is GM, Ford, and Chrysler. Period.
The Foreign Car Companies which operate here do low tech final assembly. There is a huge difference between Manufacturing and Final Assembly. Final Assembly is chump work or chimp work.
If the US Auto Companies were to go out of business as you seem to wish for how long to you think it would take for the foreign car companies to pack up and leave? Nothing could stop them. They would have the US over a barrel. The Foreign Manufacturers didn't want to come to the US in the first place. They were forced to. Toyota, Honda, Nissan in particular would much rather be operating in Japan if they could. With the US Auto Industry out of business, there would be no force to stop the foreign manufacturers from leaving.

Just who do you thing would buy up all these so called assets? Give me the names of the companies.
Gosh you really haven't thought this thing out.
34 posted on 12/12/2008 11:26:32 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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