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Don't poo-poo technique: Fecal transplant can cure superbug, doctors say
cbc dot ca ^ | 12-2008

Posted on 12/11/2008 7:00:59 PM PST by doug from upland

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To: Zechariah_8_13
"Pharma doesn't make money off of healthy people."

A cogent observation. They're certainly doing their best to manufacture sick people.

61 posted on 12/12/2008 9:11:42 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: null and void
I do believe you are in error.

Afghan Hound Dog (Afghanistan):

 

Kangel Dog (Turkey)

 

There are many other breeds developed throughout the Middle East.

What you are doing is confounding "Saudi Arabian" with "Moslem". 

Not all Moslems have a problem with dogs ~ in fact, not all Saudi Arabians have a problem with dogs.  The Bedouin, in fact, use a mixed breed Saluki as a guard dog for flocks in the fields.

Many blue-eyed blond Protestant Americans of Scandinavian ancestry keep their own dogs outside in cages on the back porch

Where they belong so they'll be fit to go hunting in the early morning. 

62 posted on 12/12/2008 10:39:19 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: aruanan
Aren't there several hundred different bacteria and yeasts in the human gut that seem to have some sort of part to play in our normal processes?

Supposedly they have a combined genetic diversity many times greater than our own.

63 posted on 12/12/2008 10:43:04 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

All creatures are the creation of Allah Taãla and do deserve the recognition
of being a creation of the Almighty. As much as Muslims detest even the
sight of pigs - it is the creation of Allah Taãla - and because Allah has
placed life into it, we cannot inflict pain nor torture the pig.

Similarly Allah Taãla created the dog from among His creation. This does not
mean that we should love the dog. It is perhaps the indoctrination of the
Western culture that ‘The dog is Man’s best Friend’. The theory that ‘dogs
are very dependent on Human affection’ is a myth - again culture and custom
has helped to develop this unnatural behaviour.

Allah Taãla the Creator of this Universe - having created the dog would
surely have known that the dog requires Human affection and love to exist in
this world. Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) would have advised us,
Muslims, to keep dogs as pets. On the contrary, we are instructed not to
keep dogs as pets and ‘love’ them as exemplified by the non-Muslims.
Remember our life is structured and bound by the Shariah i.e. The Noble
Qurãn and the beautiful example of Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi
Wasallam). Consider these Ahaadith:

Hadhrat Abu Talha (Radhiyallaahu Ánhu) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu
Álayhi Wasallam) said, “Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog
or an animate picture. (Sahih Bukhari Hadith no. 2986)

Hadhrat Ibn Abbas (Radhiyallaahu Ánhuma) reports from Hadhrat Maimoona
(Radhiyallaahu Ánha) that once Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam)
became sad; and said that Jibra’eel (Álayhis Salaam) promised to meet him at
night but did not turn up. “By Allah what has kept him back,” said the
Prophet (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Then he realised a puppy was under
his bed. He ordered that the puppy be removed and the area be sprinkled with
water. In the afternoon when Jibra’eel (Álayhi Salaam) came, Rasulullah
(Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) enquired as to the delay. Jibra’eel (Álayhi
Salaam) said that we, the group of Angels do not enter a house wherein there
is a dog or pictures. (Sahih Muslim Hadith no.3928)

In the light of these Ahaadith and other narrations it is not permissible to
keep dogs as pets. The household is deprived of the Mercy of Allah Taãla.

However, Jurists have stated that it is permissible to keep a dog, sell dogs
and rear them for security purposes, farming and hunting. (Fataawa
Mahmoodiyyah vol.8 pg.263)

The saliva of a dog is Najis (impure). If it touches the clothes or body,
that portion also becomes impure and must be washed.

and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.


64 posted on 12/12/2008 11:09:31 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: null and void
I always said ol' Ebrahim Desai was off his نودلز - شعرية صيني.

But as I said, that's a thing between the Saudi's and their friends the goats.

65 posted on 12/12/2008 11:16:56 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Aren't there several hundred different bacteria and yeasts in the human gut that seem to have some sort of part to play in our normal processes? Supposedly they have a combined genetic diversity many times greater than our own.

Bacteroides is the most common bacteria in the human gut with various others, Wikipedia says about 500 species in total. Their cells outnumber ours up to 10:1.

This Wikipedia entry is a pretty good summary of what I've read in my textbooks:
Research suggests that the relationship between gut flora[9] and humans is not merely commensal (a non-harmful coexistence), but rather is a mutualistic, symbiotic relationship.[3] Though people can survive with no gut flora,[4] the microorganisms perform a host of useful functions, such as fermenting unused energy substrates, training the immune system, preventing growth of harmful species,[2] regulating the development of the gut, producing vitamins for the host (such as biotin and vitamin K), and producing hormones to direct the host to store fats. However, in certain conditions, some species are thought to be capable of causing disease by causing infection or increasing cancer risk for the host.[2][6]

66 posted on 12/12/2008 11:25:02 AM PST by aruanan
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To: doug from upland
From the doctor:
"It takes me about an hour and I leave it in there overnight.
You do?? Isn't that more up to the patient how long the 'treatment' stays in place?
67 posted on 12/12/2008 11:32:45 AM PST by Bob
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To: aruanan
and producing hormones to direct the host to store fats.

How do I kill off those????

68 posted on 12/12/2008 11:33:35 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: doug from upland

WTF? Fecal transplant?

30 years ago, our vets began giving us an oral paste of natural flora for some of our dogs, to replace the ‘good bugs’ lost to antibiotics, and rebalance their systems.

No feces involed, Red Rider? No feces, Little Beaver!


69 posted on 12/12/2008 11:39:16 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: null and void
and producing hormones to direct the host to store fats.

How do I kill off those????


I don't know about that one. If you don't have some sort of short bowel disease and you're not drinking large quantities of oil, your body will absorb almost all dietary fat. Once absorbed it becomes part of the energy mix that in some ways depends on the total energy input compared to energy output as well as to the relative proportion of energy intake in the form of carbohydrates. Since the body has virtually no storage capacity for proteins, amino acids in excess of need for protein synthesis are deaminated and used for fuel either in the glucose cycle or fat cycle. The next most limited storage is for carbohydrates. You can store a couple or so days of energy in the form of glycogen, also called "animal starch". But once that storage capacity is reached, you start increasing blood glucose levels, which is not a good thing. The main way of compensating for this is for the body to switch substrate usage toward glucose and away from fats. In the face of a hypercaloric diet, the fat just goes into storage in adipose tissue. Some still gets used for things like basal metabolism in muscles, cardiac muscles, but anything that can get switched over to using more glucose does so in order to protect the body from getting proteins glycosylated. In the end, fat build up or reduction depends entirely upon energy balance between energy intake and energy expenditure in the form of basal metabolic rate, voluntary physical activity, and the thermic effect of meals. If your intake exceeds the expenditure, you gain fat and/or build muscle if there is enough activity required.

There is nothing that will melt fat from one's adipose stores because, even if it could happen, you'd still have to burn the fat since there is no way to excrete it.
70 posted on 12/12/2008 11:59:30 AM PST by aruanan
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