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Massive riots cripple Greece's main cities
AP ^ | Dec 8, 2008 | AP

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:24:17 PM PST by Blackyce

Edited on 12/08/2008 7:32:54 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

ATHENS, Greece (AP) - Greece's interior minister says the massive protest riots in cities across the country are "unacceptable" but insists that police are doing all they can to protect people's lives and property.

Thousands of youths are rampaging through Athens, the northern city of Thessaloniki and several other cities in the third day of riots Monday after police shot and killed a teenager on Saturday.


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KEYWORDS: anarchist; anarchy; chaos; communist; ellada; ellas; europe; greece; greek; islam; jihad; riots; socialist; stealthjihad; youts
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1 posted on 12/08/2008 7:24:17 PM PST by Blackyce
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To: Blackyce
Let them eat gyros!
2 posted on 12/08/2008 7:26:26 PM PST by XR7
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To: Blackyce
One assistant at a china shop watched in fear as rioters attacked her store.

If she'd had an Uzi, she might still have her shop. There goes the tourist season, unless they get this stopped and the place fixed up post-haste.

3 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:04 PM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: Blackyce

We need the same here. Cripple every main city bastion of liberalism.


4 posted on 12/08/2008 7:28:30 PM PST by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | Impeach Obama!)
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To: Blackyce

Who are the perps? Commies, anrachists, “youths?” Is some form of Greek PC keepin this vague? Religion of peace? Who?


6 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: Tzimisce

My point too.


7 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:28 PM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: Tzimisce; Travis McGee

Per other reports, these are left-wing Greek kids, not Islamists.


8 posted on 12/08/2008 7:31:56 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Travis McGee

Commies and anarchists, apparently, with unemployed “youths” to build the numbers. It seems NOT to be ROP, for a novelty.


9 posted on 12/08/2008 7:32:11 PM PST by Tax-chick (All I want for Christmas is the giant plush microbes from ThinkGeek.com.)
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To: Travis McGee

“The self-styled anarchist movement partly traces its roots in the resistance to Greece’s 1967-74 military dictatorship. The youths tend to espouse general anti-capitalist and antiestablishment principles, and have long-running animosity toward the police.”

Either they’re Muzzies or not, they need to get their butts kicked because obviously they don’t have respect for the law. They hate the cops? Then eat lead.


10 posted on 12/08/2008 7:34:31 PM PST by max americana
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Yep, we’re on to those “youths” and their MSM enablers.


12 posted on 12/08/2008 7:36:25 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Tzimisce
My thoughts exactly. Coincidentally, the rioters in France a couple of years back were also “youths”, sometimes even “disaffected youths”. Seems that when they are unsuccessful at cowing and bullying the natives into compliance to their will, the last resort of the culture of grievance is chaos and mayhem.
13 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:13 PM PST by Chairman of the Bard
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To: Blackyce
Thousands of youths are rampaging...

They need to be assuaged.

Quick, France... send them lots of autos.

14 posted on 12/08/2008 7:37:43 PM PST by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: Travis McGee

They’re not trying to be vague. The descriptor “Youths” is what they are and anarchy describes their behavior. There’s not much of a method, they just need an excuse.


15 posted on 12/08/2008 7:45:03 PM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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16 posted on 12/08/2008 7:47:16 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Blackyce

This is exactly why Constantinople is now Turkish Istambul. Their Greek forefathers tore each other apart over silly nonsense like this, too.


17 posted on 12/08/2008 8:07:03 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Clint Williams

There is no civilization without cities. In fact, the word for the former is derived from the word for the latter.

Cities are critical to economic development.


19 posted on 12/08/2008 9:46:03 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Blackyce

Communist Party and self-styled “anarchists” are behind this.


20 posted on 12/08/2008 9:46:18 PM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: montag813
Communist Party and self-styled “anarchists” are behind this.

Wonderful peace loving leftists/ Communists destroying their cities. Go figure.

I'm pretty much 100% certain we'll never read about Capitalists rioting and burning and pillaging their cities.

Now leftists tell me which system is better?

21 posted on 12/08/2008 10:39:52 PM PST by A message
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To: Blackyce

So, young people are mad about a young person who was shot and killed by police. The rioting and anarchy does nothing to address or promote awareness of this... so is it kind of like the riots after a city’s team loses the final championship, or what?


22 posted on 12/08/2008 10:55:08 PM PST by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: C210N

Maybe if they are sent a lot of American made cars it will help our auto industries and there won’t be a need for a bailout!

I think the police should lock and load. Anyone brandishing a weapon (firearm, rock, bottle etc) will be shot. That would put a damper on the rioter’s spirit.


23 posted on 12/08/2008 11:00:49 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Political correctness is a form of censorship!)
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To: Blackyce

Where’s Zorba when you really need him?


24 posted on 12/08/2008 11:30:57 PM PST by mkjessup (God, guns & guts have kept America free, we still need all three. The 'Arsenal of Democracy' is 'US')
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To: Travis McGee
Look at the pictures. They are full of communist signs in Greek, not green banners and signs in Arabic.

Please, lets remain truthful and not lie about facts on the ground to fit into our preconceived notions. The one article that everyone is sighting as proof of Islamic involvement was published in EARLY OCTOBER. The Muslims did have a march in October, which is what the chanting took place at. It is not connected with the anarchist riots going on now.

Here is pic from today's riots. There are lots of them out there. There is no visible Islamic component to the signs. This is the so-called black-block anarchists. They are a huge problem in Europe. This needs to be well understood by everyone at Free Republic.

Note: motorcycle helmet, man with video camera. Not penniless refugees and the don't look African or Middle Eastern.

I know these people. They are variously referred to as "anarchists" "black-block" "autonomous" and "anti-authoritarians". We have them in the USA too. They were the instigators at the Seattle riots a few years back.

They come ready to fight police, all in black, masked with motorcycle helmets.

Here is video, their anarchist banners (black and red) are clearly visible. The BBC reporter mentions that this is escalation of frequent clashes between anarchists and police; VIDEO

note: black & red flag in right background

note: worldwide anarchist symbol grafitti

25 posted on 12/08/2008 11:31:08 PM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: Clemenza

Either way, I guess I need to convert or get run over. :(


26 posted on 12/08/2008 11:35:05 PM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Travis McGee

Note: my posting above was not directed at you, sorry!

I caught you in the too line. I wrote this on another thread where someone was spreading dis-information that this was all Islamic rioting. There maybe some Muslim participants, but this is organized far-left antics. There is a pan-European anarchist movement that seeks out these situations. Gates of Vienna has more info on them.

I am quite familiar with their looks and tactics. We have a contingent here in Oregon/Washington who have rioted in both Seattle (WTO Riots) and Portland (Anti-War Riots).


27 posted on 12/08/2008 11:36:49 PM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: Jack Black

A shop owner with a gun is more effective than a riot squad.


28 posted on 12/09/2008 12:10:04 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: Blackyce

The core of the rioters seem to be Antifa (anti-fascist who are actually fascists ‘1984’ Newspeak) agitators who have been showing up more frequently throughout Europe. Some call them Blackhoods due to what they wear to conceal their identities and to intimidate.


29 posted on 12/09/2008 12:32:44 AM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

Yup, any excuse to start a riot for these peeps. These are the same people who trashed Capitol Hill in Seattle and torched all those SUV dealerships a while back. They tag onto any “cause” just to be destructive and create a breakdown in civil order.


30 posted on 12/09/2008 2:17:01 AM PST by ponygirl
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To: ponygirl

And I forgot to mention, San Francisco has literally throngs of these “youths” living on the street, just waiting for any minor event to set them off like a keg of gunpowder.


31 posted on 12/09/2008 2:18:12 AM PST by ponygirl
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To: Jack Black
note: black & red flag in right background

just like the dress she was wearing?


32 posted on 12/09/2008 3:04:34 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: XR7
Let them eat gyros!

Throw in a few bottles of Athenian beer, seasoned rice with peas and raisins, a real Greek salad and I'm there!

33 posted on 12/09/2008 3:08:56 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
That was a very weak throw. Notice the arc on it, missed the strike zone by about 4 feet.


34 posted on 12/09/2008 3:14:38 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Jack Black

What you have written is very true. These upper-middle class “anarchist” kids are a problem throughout Europe. I go to Spain a lot and for awhile, there were some neighborhoods in Madrid that you really didn’t want to go into because anarchist squatters had taken them over. (After the march bombings, the Spanish flushed out a lot of these areas, if only because a lot of the non-anarchist youth who lived in them were illegal Muslim immigrants and some had even been involved in the bombings.) Barcelona is frequently the scene of anarchist youth riots that are similar to this but on a smaller scale.

The Europeans tend to permit these things, with the result that it just gets worse. The kid who was shot in Greece was the son of a banker, hanging out in the university drug-selling area. Supposedly a band of some 30 kids saw the cops and converged on their car, and one of the cops fired his gun as a warning and unfortunately hit the kid. As the rioting went on, every time the anarchists needed to regroup, they ran into the university. Since the 1970s, there has been an informal agreement that these kids cannot be pursued into the university campuses, so this is where they always run to when they need a break to regroup.

This is 1968 coming back again, with all the stupidity and ugliness that characterized that time. Only it’s worse, because this time we have a US president to be who agrees with the “anticapitalist youth” and the use of violence, combined with an Islamic current (also reflected by the incoming president) that wants to destroy our entire society.


35 posted on 12/09/2008 3:48:09 AM PST by livius
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To: Blackyce

Never been to Greece, but my impression of it is that it’s full of lefty lunatics.


36 posted on 12/09/2008 3:52:44 AM PST by MitchellC (RINO? GTHO.)
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To: livius
This is 1968 coming back again,...

Soon to be followed by an even more left leaning re-make of the movie "Z".

37 posted on 12/09/2008 5:05:47 AM PST by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.............maybe.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Well that’s creepy.
What does the black and red flag stand for? Anybody know?


38 posted on 12/09/2008 6:25:03 AM PST by sunny48
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To: livius
The kid who was shot in Greece was the son of a banker, hanging out in the university drug-selling area. Supposedly a band of some 30 kids saw the cops and converged on their car, and one of the cops fired his gun as a warning and unfortunately hit the kid. As the rioting went on, every time the anarchists needed to regroup, they ran into the university. Since the 1970s, there has been an informal agreement that these kids cannot be pursued into the university campuses, so this is where they always run to when they need a break to regroup.

«Immunity corrupts, and absolute immunity corrupts absolutely.» — John W. Campbell

These young people think they are immune because their parents will get them out of trouble. When a bullet disabused one of them of that notion, his fellows decided that drastic action was needed to prevent any chance of a repeat, because they knew that stripping them of immunity from reprisal would make their followers leave.

39 posted on 12/09/2008 6:25:51 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: sunny48
My understanding is that the black flag is a traditional Anarchist banner, while the red flag is (or course) a symbol of Communism. Combining the two is a way to symbolize Anarcho-Communism.

Theoretically, anarchism can have a rightwing flavor and come a little close to Libertarianism. Many anarchists really hate the idea of free markets as a component of an anarchist society, so the Red and the Black is combined to ensure the demarcation of Leftwing Anarchism (which is quite a contradiction in itself).

40 posted on 12/09/2008 6:31:37 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: arrogantsob
Cities are critical to economic development.

Now that we are in the information age, not any more. Cities are simply bottomless pits for taxpayer money. On the otherhand, there's no shortage of corruption and crime.

41 posted on 12/09/2008 6:36:38 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: Fred Nerks

OH YES! That ugly dress was very symbolic!


42 posted on 12/09/2008 6:49:06 AM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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To: Fred Nerks
LOL!

Good one!

43 posted on 12/09/2008 7:03:15 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: livius

Thanks for the additional background. Yes, it’s unfortunate that we find ourselves in this situation, but not surprising.


44 posted on 12/09/2008 7:20:22 AM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: sunny48
What does the black and red flag stand for? Anybody know? REVOLUTION! Black is traditionally the flag of anarchism. Red is the flag of Communism. Together the are the flag far left revolutionary solidarity. There are many streams of micro philosophy- anarcho-syndicalists, black block, anti-fa, neo-Trotskyites, etc. I believe the black and red flag is supposed to unite them all against capitalism.
45 posted on 12/09/2008 7:27:18 AM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: PapaBear3625; Travis McGee

Love your tagline, and your comment which is quite true.

Before the riots at the WTO meeting in Seattle, the University of British Columbia campus hosted meetings in how to be “effective” in Seattle, sponsored by the group calling themselves “Ruckus.”

There is even info about them on Wikipedia. - and video from the “Battle in Seattle.”

I keep wondering why the protests against the World Bank and IMF meetings in DC which used to be an annual convention of these hooded rampagers = as shown on CPAN = seem to have dwindled down in the past few years.

One possibility is that the network which includes top Democrat operatives and money people told the leaders of these anarchist groups to chill this year, so as not to cause any undue negative influence on November’s outcome of the election.

$$$$$

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=314

US: Seattle WTO Protests Mark New Activist Age

by Luis Cabrera, Associated Press
November 25th, 2000

The protests that all but shut down last year’s World Trade Organization meeting may have been a surprise, but they were no fluke, organizers and observers say.

Instead, they marked the emergence of a worldwide movement against corporate globalization growing since at least the early 1990s.

And the movement, which already has sparked a resurgence in activism not seen since the Vietnam War, may just now be picking up steam.

“The coalition is intact and empowered, and actions are springing up all over the place,” said Mike Dolan of Global Trade Watch, a charter organizer of the anti-WTO protests.

“What’s exciting is that nobody’s been turned off as of yet,” said John Sellers of Berkeley, Calif.-based The Ruckus Society, which trained activists for WTO and more recent events nationwide. “We’re building on a very powerful confluence that came together in Seattle, and we still have this relationship between labor and environmental and other activism that’s building.”


46 posted on 12/09/2008 7:31:03 AM PST by maica (Barack Obama is a Weathermen Project.)
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To: Travis McGee
Looks like the radical left, not surprisingly for anyone familiar with the political landscape in the country. For example,
January 12, 2007: Greek terrorists fired an RPG-7 at the US embassy in Athens. A group called "Revolutionary Struggle" claimed responsibility for the attack. The Greek government said that the organization is a left wing faction. The rocket-propelled grenade slammed into a third-floor bathroom. No one was hurt. Every time something like this happens the Greek government thinks of " November 17", the terrorist-anarchist gang that launched attacks throughout Greece but often targeted American targets. Greek police and intelligence services made a concerted effort to destroy the " November 17" gang prior to the 2004 Olympics.

strategypage.com

Call them anything, but don't call them Muslim. In fact, a major factor heating up Greek anti-Americanism is our involvement on the side of the Islamic militants in the Balkans.

47 posted on 12/09/2008 7:59:23 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: maica; Jack Black
I don't know why a Molotov cocktail is not considered a deadly weapon. Violent street thugs preparing to throw gasoline bombs should be shot on sight.


48 posted on 12/09/2008 8:01:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
That was a very weak throw. Notice the arc on it, missed the strike zone by about 4 feet.

Europeans don't play too many sports that require them to throw a ball. I guess, from a riot police officer's viewpoint, that's another reason to like soccer.

49 posted on 12/09/2008 8:04:52 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Blackyce
Remember when the hard-hats took on the hippies on Wall Street? Ah, memories.
50 posted on 12/09/2008 8:09:02 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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