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F-18 Crashes In San Diego Residential Area
(CBS/AP) ^

Posted on 12/08/2008 1:11:28 PM PST by Rick Deckard

(CBS/AP) An F-18 military jet crashed in a San Diego neighborhood on Monday, sparking at least one house fire.

It wasn't immediately clear whether anyone was injured, said Maurice Luque, a spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department. Television news footage showed one house and two cars on fire.

Fire crews were at the scene of the crash, which occurred near Interstate 805, reports CBS affiliate KFMB in San Diego.

The plane crashed shortly before noon Monday as it prepared to land at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, said Ian Gregor, a Federal Aviation Administration spokesman. The crash occurred two miles from the base.

The pilot ejected, Gregor said.

"We saw two big bangs," resident Scott Patterson told KNX radio. "The smoke came up. We don't know what it was."

The San Diego Union-Tribune reports that massive traffic jams have snarled traffic in the area, making it difficult for firefighters and police to reach the crash site, according to witnesses.

The F-18 is a supersonic jet used widely in the Marine Corps and Navy.

Miramar, well known for its role in the movie "Top Gun," is home to some 10,000 Marines. It was operated by the Navy until 1996.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f18; miramar; navair; planecrash; sandiego
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To: Rick Deckard

A number of Freepers were present in December of ‘69 when a pilot bailed out of an F8 on approach to Miramar and the aircraft flew right into the open door of an occupied hanger. I covered the story and, yeah, it was a lot worse.

I’m annoyed that the local news-’babes’ are already second guessing the pilot’s actions, but I guess that’s to be expected.


21 posted on 12/08/2008 4:25:04 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: Rick Deckard

The crash occurred in University City. The article does not quite make that clear.


22 posted on 12/08/2008 5:09:13 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad

The article I posted was the first round of info. The initial report radio I heard said I-805 & Genesee Avenue.

There’s a large hospital complex there (Sharp Hospital & Children’s Hospital) As I said earlier, it could have been a LOT worse.


23 posted on 12/08/2008 5:27:40 PM PST by Rick Deckard
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To: Rick Deckard
There’s a large hospital complex there (Sharp Hospital & Children’s Hospital)

That should be south of the crash site. Other coverage specifically mentions University City.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jetcrash9-2008dec09,0,5856840.story

Since this is the Los Angeles Times, the article contains the obligatory MSM urination on the military:

"This guy could have turned it around and put it in the ocean. He was never going to make it to Miramar."

24 posted on 12/08/2008 5:57:44 PM PST by TChad
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To: Rick Deckard
Glad you're OK. But why do I have to hear from you on a public forum? Can't you send a Freepmail?

(Yes, Mother! LOL!)

Did it hit my old digs on the beach @ Imperial Beach? That would be a sad day, indeed...

25 posted on 12/08/2008 6:01:02 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ('Taking the moderate path of appeasement leads to abysmal defeat.' - Rush on 11/05/08)
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To: Myrddin

No RIO in a Hornet. GIB is a WSO.


26 posted on 12/08/2008 6:45:14 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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3 fatalities; bird belonged to VMFAT-101.
27 posted on 12/08/2008 6:52:36 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Rick Deckard
Map showing crash site.
28 posted on 12/08/2008 6:56:56 PM PST by TChad
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m a good 20 miles from the crash site. I need to send you FR mail.


29 posted on 12/08/2008 7:18:52 PM PST by Rick Deckard
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To: TChad

I’m up to date on the locale now. The intial reports were pretty vague, as usual.


30 posted on 12/08/2008 7:20:13 PM PST by Rick Deckard
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I returned to San Diego in 1969. Just in time for the F-14 to arrive at Miramar. In 1983, I purchased in house in Mira Mesa. That was a great spot to enjoy watching the Top Gun classes coming in/out and training. A few of my friends and neighbors were pilots or RIOs. It was sad to see the Navy leave. I wasn't around enough of the F/A-18 pilots to pick up the terminology on that platform. One thing was clearly different. The F-18 and helicopters were much louder. The departure path for the F-18s runs nominally over Camino Santa Fe. That was much closer to my house than what was typical for the F-14 activities.
31 posted on 12/08/2008 7:58:15 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: ArmstedFragg
Do you remember when the aircraft landed short of the runway and was straddling the K-rail between the lanes of Kearny Villa Rd? There was also the "oops" when the hook at the end of a tow line on an approaching aircraft struck a truck traveling on Kearny Villa Rd. Both accidents occurred on the stretch of road that intersects the flight path.

Given the volume of activity at the field, I'm pleasantly surprised at how few accidents have occurred. The Marines had to set down a helicopter on a city street just a few months after moving into Miramar. Aside from being an odd occurrence, there was no harm from that event.

32 posted on 12/08/2008 8:07:10 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

It’s a high volume operation with a pretty fair safety record. I grew up in San Diego and I can recall Miramar in the 50’s. I wouldn’t have wanted to have a house in Sycamore Canyon back then, either. When Camp Elliott shut down they lost a bit of their south side flop space.

Looks like three lost. Read a post from a firefighter on another site saying one of the kids hasn’t been found.


33 posted on 12/08/2008 9:59:21 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg
Looks like three lost. Read a post from a firefighter on another site saying one of the kids hasn’t been found.

That's a sad situation. Many of my ham buddies helped when the PSA flight crashed in North Park. That was a huge mess as well.

34 posted on 12/08/2008 10:27:56 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Do you remember when that F-14 (I think it was) crashed near the 15 and Poway Road in the mid to late 80’s? I can’t find any reference to it on the internet. I’m starting to feel like it never happened.


35 posted on 12/09/2008 9:44:41 AM PST by irishwayusa
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To: irishwayusa
I don't recall an F-14 crashing there. The only crash close to a road that I recall was the aircraft straddling the k-rail on Kearny Villa Road. The press records that as a crash on "163" on March 27, 1978. I think Kearny Villa was "163" before the I-15 freeway opened and became "163" in its place. The F-14 struck a pickup truck with 1 fatality.
36 posted on 12/09/2008 10:17:59 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: irishwayusa
I found a reference to an F-14 crash in March 1987. It was a training mission. The crash site is noted as "near Poway".
37 posted on 12/09/2008 10:30:30 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

In grew up at the south end of North Park, two blocks from where the temporary morgue was set up in the PSA incident. In the 50’s, I walked to Wilson Junior High school every day. My route took me up Nile Street. One of the guys I went to high school with was a patrol officer at the time of the crash and got drafted to help out at the scene. He said a lot of his fellow officers were permanently impacted by the experience.


38 posted on 12/09/2008 12:10:55 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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