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Obama expected to press repeal of military ban on 'gays'
OneNewsNow ^ | 12/5/2008 | Chad Groening

Posted on 12/06/2008 3:22:53 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

Gives a whole new meaning to “crank that Souljah boy!”


61 posted on 12/07/2008 8:41:28 AM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: FES0844; Xenalyte; txflake; cjshapi; Allegra; Squantos; Travis McGee; Eaker
I don’t want to know about anyone’s sex life.

Then you do NOT want to read my posts.

I'm hetero, but I go into great detail.

For example, there is the time that I met two ladies and a rabbi and [redacted by Admin Moderator] so we all put on scuba fins and clown noses and then, into the jello we went and [redacted by Admin Moderator] TWENTY SEVEN monkeys, and a llama, I have NO idea how THAT got in there, and so anyways, the cop took the cuffs off, and [redacted by Admin Moderator] with a melon and a banana, and [redacted by Admin Moderator] the mule team [redacted by Admin Moderator] spacecraft [redacted by Admin Moderator] the [redacted by Admin Moderator] a [redacted by Admin Moderator] balloons!

62 posted on 12/07/2008 8:45:21 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
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To: Ann Archy

> Oh gee.....what is YOUR military responsible for except support work.

We sent the NZ-SAS to Afghanistan to hunt Osama bin Laden: one of the best elite fighting forces in the world. Our army has been busy in Bougainville in a shooting war, and in Timor Leste keeping the Indonesians from murdering the East Timorese. And our navy and air force patrol the South Pacific — a vast body of water. And yes, our military also does support work.

> Super but not exactly weight of the world on your shoulders, there....eh?

Our country is the size of Chicago, and we can afford as much military deployment as Chicago could. Man-for-man we punch way, way above our weight: as anybody who has fought with or against our armed forces would attest.


63 posted on 12/07/2008 8:46:11 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I get it...you have a fine military....BUT for goodness sakes, can’t you se the difference between your military and ours??


64 posted on 12/07/2008 8:49:22 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: Lazamataz

> Well, I personally don’t mind gays in the military, because every time I’ve made fun of them, they’ve kicked my ass thoroughly.
> Gays are tough!

I have two on my team. One is alot tougher than the other, and the other is the smarter of the two. So long as they do their jobs, I’m happy. I try not to discriminate on any basis at all.


65 posted on 12/07/2008 8:49:28 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Are GAYS serving OPENLY in your military?


66 posted on 12/07/2008 8:50:06 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: Ann Archy

> I get it...you have a fine military....BUT for goodness sakes, can’t you se the difference between your military and ours??

Yup: man-for-man ours must be tougher because yours will fall apart if you have gays serving in your ranks. You said so yourself.


67 posted on 12/07/2008 8:50:51 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I have two [gays] on my team.

On your team, got it. Nudge nudge wink wink, say no more! ;)

68 posted on 12/07/2008 8:51:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I have two [gays] on my team.

On your team, got it. Nudge nudge wink wink, say no more! ;)

69 posted on 12/07/2008 8:51:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
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To: Beckwith

Exactly. The homo agenda isn’t so much about their sexuality as it is attacking Christian/American values.

Coming out was supposed to make their lives somehow normal.

The fact is it will not and can not be seen as normal unless they somehow start conceiving babies.

And they are the only ones other than their fellow kook-show liberals that don’t understand this.


70 posted on 12/07/2008 9:02:50 AM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Ann Archy; DieHard the Hunter

You still have not answered my question. Fight to who’s death? You don’t think that was a tad over the top?

And who is the “we”? Who is going to stop it? BHO is the Commander in Chief (or will be).


71 posted on 12/07/2008 9:04:27 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Ann Archy

> Are GAYS serving OPENLY in your military?

Yes. I’ll try to find you a link on our Nation’s policy.


72 posted on 12/07/2008 9:06:58 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
They would argue “give me one good reason why not let gays serve in the military. Other countries allow gays in the military and they don’t have any problems.”

Other countires that allow gays to serve openly are irrelevant.

73 posted on 12/07/2008 9:09:06 AM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

> Other countires that allow gays to serve openly are irrelevant.

Says you. If gays can serve openly in other countries’ armed forces without fagging each other and everyone else, then surely they should be able to contain their carnal lusts and serve properly within the US Armed Forces without causing a total breakdown of discipline?

Surely your Armed Forces isn’t so fragile as to fall apart if pooftahs are allowed to serve, like they do in other Nations’ forces?


74 posted on 12/07/2008 9:17:47 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Lazamataz
For example, there is the time that I met two ladies and a rabbi and [redacted by Admin Moderator] so we all put on scuba fins and clown noses and then, into the jello we went and [redacted by Admin Moderator] TWENTY SEVEN monkeys, and a llama...

I thought it was only 26 monkeys...??

75 posted on 12/07/2008 9:17:56 AM PST by Allegra
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To: NucSubs

Decent American people will stop it just like we did before.


76 posted on 12/07/2008 9:19:41 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: Lazamataz

> On your team, got it. Nudge nudge wink wink, say no more! ;)

(grin!) ROTFL! That’s funny — they’d get a hoot out of that!


77 posted on 12/07/2008 9:20:09 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

They are allowed to serve, openly is the contention. Frankly anyone’s sex life should be a private matter. Period.

In the military, the focus should be on the taSk at hand, not dealing with someone elses insecurities about their normalcy.


78 posted on 12/07/2008 9:25:00 AM PST by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Allegra
I thought it was only 26 monkeys...??

Sweety, if you counted 26 monkeys, then it was 26 monkeys.

I'll reimburse you for the llama rental next Tuesday. :)

79 posted on 12/07/2008 9:30:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids

> For the most part, this is not about military readiness but a larger war going on. The homo lobby views the military as just another battlefield to win on during their march to 100% normalization....its a large institution to kick over.

That is the most likely scenario IMO. That and marriage would be the two biggies to overcome.

> BO will lift don’t ask don’t tell sooner rather than later as Clinton did. The tactic is to make the unpopular/controversial decision early in hopes it is quickly water under the bridge. Stand by for normalization.

As an early piece of business, as you say. Machiavelli advised that if the Prince is to cause pain, to cause it all at once so it is soon over. But if he is to cause pleasure, to stretch it out as long as possible.

> A large pct of our males respect the military because of its stance on queers...

You may find that this generation coming thru are entirely ambivalent to queers. It used to matter to, say, my generation: it mattered alot, and being called “queer” was an insult back then. These days I’m not convinced that it is, so much.

> this move will turn our armed forces into a full fledged social lab.....

Yup. And I predict the results will be uninteresting. Men and women have been serving together for quite a while now. Once in a while someone gets pregnant, but that’s the exception rather than the rule. I don’t think we will see a breakdown in discipline, with entire aircraft carriers fagging each other instead of maintaining a war footing.

> I know many closet queers serving and it will sicken me to see them in their real dress...it is a readiness issue.

It will be interesting to see how it rolls out: BHO will probably do it sooner than later, so we shouldn’t have to wait too long.

> Wait until Pandora’s box is opened on this one

I predict it will be one of his first orders of business. Say February.


80 posted on 12/07/2008 9:33:12 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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