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Obama expected to press repeal of military ban on 'gays'
OneNewsNow ^ | 12/5/2008 | Chad Groening

Posted on 12/06/2008 3:22:53 AM PST by IbJensen

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Yes indeedy - 0bamination wants us to all hurtle off the cliff into the abyss as fast as possible. Solution? Don't know. Stand up for truth any way we can, large or small. Maybe I should plaster my car with home made bumper stickers. 0bama wants to destroy this country and those who say "well, in 4 or 8 years we'll just elect a real conservative and undo it all" are, IMO, fooling themselves. The ruination he plans to visit upon us will be very difficult to undo.

I can only hope that whatever Repubs are left in Congress can muster enough guts to do their best to derail whatever infernal plans 0 and his sycophants try to implement.

41 posted on 12/06/2008 6:43:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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PS - the idea of the lying marxist fiend as CIC sickens me beyond words.


42 posted on 12/06/2008 6:44:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: a real Sheila

> How well does a gay man fight anyway? Do they know how to handle guns or do they slap and scratch like a girl?

I think that depends entirely on the gay man. Not all gays are effeminate. Some can fight really well.

> What I don’t understand-
> MOST gays are militant liberal democrats.

Quite a few of them are Libertarians. If you think about that, it makes perfect sense. Libertarians have much more in common with Conservatives than they do with Liberals.

> So, why do gays want so badly to join the military?

Many of them want to serve their country.


44 posted on 12/07/2008 2:41:16 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: edge10
We've been subjected to a movie about perverted cowboys, now we'll no doubt be dished up a helping of queer soldiers making out in fox 'holes'.

Hollyweird will crawl on board the good ship Obomba with gusto.

45 posted on 12/07/2008 4:31:25 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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To: Ann Archy

Who is “we” and who’s death?

signed, NucSubs

Eight year Navy vet who is against the homo agenda.


46 posted on 12/07/2008 6:21:30 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

There are many other ways to serve the country..


47 posted on 12/07/2008 6:27:38 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: Ann Archy

> There are many other ways to serve the country..

Without a doubt. They would argue “give me one good reason why not let gays serve in the military. Other countries allow gays in the military and they don’t have any problems.”


48 posted on 12/07/2008 6:47:53 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Are you gay? WHO....what SANE person wants a gay person sleeping and showering 1 foot away from them?? It would be like men and women sleeping together and showering together. BREAKDOWN.....straights will LEAVE the military, there will have to be a DRAFT, and people will revolt again.

Or else, only GAYS will enter, just like in decorating and salons and window dressers and ballet dancers and makeup artists, etc. etc. etc.

49 posted on 12/07/2008 6:56:47 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: IbJensen

I am in an infantry unit (Active duty Army). Just got back from Iraq.

In my opinion, open homosexuals in MY unit would be a bad thing. It would be bad for morale, and it would hurt the mission.


50 posted on 12/07/2008 7:04:34 AM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: Ann Archy

> Are you gay?

Nope. I’m straight. Just presenting the other side.

> WHO....what SANE person wants a gay person sleeping and showering 1 foot away from them??

So long as they are not showering/sleeping on top of you or anyone else, or making amorous advances, why should it matter?

It actually doesn’t: by time you’ve finished a hard day’s work, the only thing you can think about is getting a decent amount of shuteye. And if you’re dirty and sweaty enough you won’t care who you’re showering with.

> It would be like men and women sleeping together and showering together.

Yes, and...?

Ever been on an expedition in the snow, when the temperature drops well below zero every nite? Guess what: that is precisely what happens. Everyone all gets into the same tent, gets real close to conserve heat, and sleeps together. The novelty wears off in about two minutes.

Ever been scuba diving? You guessed it: there ain’t room on a small boat for separate changing rooms.

> BREAKDOWN.....straights will LEAVE the military,

This hasn’t happened elsewhere, why should it happen in the US?

> there will have to be a DRAFT, and people will revolt again.

That is one possible outcome. Is it the most likely? I doubt it.


51 posted on 12/07/2008 7:10:26 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Just curious...how old are you and are you a man or woman and what is your job?


52 posted on 12/07/2008 7:11:56 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: Ann Archy

> Just curious...how old are you and are you a man or woman and what is your job?

All is revealed in my ABOUT page.


53 posted on 12/07/2008 7:14:02 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

You’re a KIWI??? Congrats., but you as a New Zealander have no idea of our military’s responsibilities in the world. The BREAKDOWN would be DISASTEROUS for the WORLD!!


54 posted on 12/07/2008 8:12:17 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: Ann Archy

> You’re a KIWI??? Congrats.,

Cheers. I’m also Canadian and British.

> but you as a New Zealander have no idea of our military’s responsibilities in the world.

Sure I do. And it may surprise you to know that we deploy most of our military around the world, too.

> The BREAKDOWN would be DISASTEROUS for the WORLD!!

Your military is made of sterner stuff than that. Ours is.


55 posted on 12/07/2008 8:19:05 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Vaduz

“They wouldn’t have to it shows ban them.”

The way it is now, if a military member is suspected of being a homosexual, someone has to make the accusation—and it can’t be an anonymous accusation. Then there’s an investigation, followed by action based on the findings. You can’t boot someone out based on suspicion.

Not that I agree with this... I’m just saying how it works these days thanks to Clinton.


56 posted on 12/07/2008 8:36:12 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Oh gee.....what is YOUR military responsible for except support work. Super but not exactly weight of the world on your shoulders, there....eh?


57 posted on 12/07/2008 8:37:06 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: IbJensen

Perverts in charge and forcing it on you.


58 posted on 12/07/2008 8:37:49 AM PST by Vision ("Test everything. Hold on to the Good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
For the most part, this is not about military readiness but a larger war going on. The homo lobby views the military as just another battlefield to win on during their march to 100% normalization....its a large institution to kick over.

BO will lift don't ask don't tell sooner rather than later as Clinton did. The tactic is to make the unpopular/controversial decision early in hopes it is quickly water under the bridge. Stand by for normalization.

A large pct of our males respect the military because of its stance on queers...this move will turn our armed forces into a full fledged social lab.....I know many closet queers serving and it will sicken me to see them in their real dress...it is a readiness issue.

Wait until Pandora's box is opened on this one.

59 posted on 12/07/2008 8:38:09 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids (Joe Stalin is grinning ear to ear and these young voters have never heard of him)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Well, I personally don't mind gays in the military, because every time I've made fun of them, they've kicked my ass thoroughly.

Gays are tough!

60 posted on 12/07/2008 8:38:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proud author of abstract semi-religious dogmatic hoooey with a decidedly fringe feel.)
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