NO IT WON'T MAN!!!1! IT'S ALL OVER MAN!!!1!!1!!
Posted on 12/05/2008 7:20:27 AM PST by Lazamataz
U.S. employers axed payrolls by a shocking 533,000 in November for the weakest performance in 34 years, government data on Friday showed, as the recession inflicted a mounting toll on the U.S. labor market.
The Labor Department said the unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent last month in the highest reading since 1993, compared with 6.5 percent in October, after widespread losses across the country's major industry sectors.
The number was far above analyst expectations.
"The only time I've experienced this was the second quarter of 1980 where we had the credit crunch, so rather than an erosion, you have an absolute shutdown," Robert Barbera, chief economist at ITG, said on CNBC. "This is a minus-8, minus-8.5 GDP kind of number."
November's job losses were the steepest since December 1974, when 602,000 jobs were shed, and were much worse than forecast by analysts polled by Reuters who had predicted a reduction of 340,000 jobs.
In addition, October's job losses were revised to show a cut of 320,000, previously reported as a 240,000 loss, while September's losses were revised to a loss of 403,000 from down 284,00.
That meant 199,000 more jobs were lost in September and October than previously thought and the total reduction in U.S. nonfarm payrolls for last three months was 1.256 million, with almost 2 million shed in the year so far.
Service-providing businesses alone shed 370,000 jobs in November, following a loss of 153,000 jobs the month before.
The length of the workweek slipped to 33.5 hours, the shortest since records began in 1964, a Labor Department official said.
"The only way out is for the government to be extremely aggressive on every front: The Federal Reserve, economic stimulus, help for the automakers, extending out TARP money, everything, because we're now in a self-reinforcing negative cycle, and the only way out is for the government to fill the void," Mark Zandi, Moody's Economy.com chief economist, told CNBC.
Job losses were widespread, hitting factories, construction companies, financial firms, retailers, leisure and hospitality, and others industries. The few places where gains were logged included the government, education and health services.
The job reductions were the most since a whopping 602,000 positions were slashed in December 1974, when the country was in a severe recession.
Job losses in September and October also turned out to be much worse. Employers cut 403,000 jobs in September, versus 284,000 previously estimated. Another 320,000 were chopped in October, compared with an initial estimate of 240,000.
Employers are slashing costs to the bone as they try to cope with sagging appetites from customers in the U.S. and in other countries, which are struggling with their own economic troubles.
The carnage—including the worst financial crisis since the 1930s—is hitting a wide range of companies.
In recent days, household names like AT&T [T 27.70 -0.47 (-1.67%) ], DuPont [DD 22.58 -1.11 (-4.69%) ], JPMorgan Chase [JPM 29.95 -1.13 (-3.64%) ], as well as jet engine maker Pratt & Whitney, a subsidiary of United Technologies [UTX 46.07 -1.09 (-2.31%) ], and mining company Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold [FCX 16.52 -0.99 (-5.65%) ] announced layoffs.
Fighting for their survival, the chiefs of Chrysler, General Motors [GM 3.84 -0.27 (-6.57%) ] and Ford Motor [F 2.71 0.05 (+1.84%) ] will return Friday to Capitol Hill to again ask lawmakers for as much as $34 billion in emergency aid.
Workers with jobs saw modest wage gains. Average hourly earnings rose to $18.30 in November, a 0.4 percent increase from the previous month. Over the year, wages have grown 3.7 percent, but paychecks haven't stretched that far because of high prices for energy, food and other items.
They say this is the best it will ever get, and it’s all downhill from here.
“The number was far above analyst expectations”
I wonder what kind of meds analysts are on? Among ordinary Americans, who would not have predicted a sharp job loss?
I was one of them. The job market is worse now than it was during this same period after 9/11. It’s bleak.
And yet, Fox and Friends was playing a clip from some auto worker moaning about people losing their jobs in the auto industry. This is going to happen across the board. The auto industry should not be singled out for a bailout.
Sorry to hear it. However, I have noticed that this recession appears to be a HUGE incubator of new businesses.
I just hope we don’t have to dig for grubs with a stick, because my stick was repossessed by the Stick and Loan.
And these numbers don’t include any of the recent announcements. My company plans to have their 1,800 reduction done by the 1st quarter in 2009. It is looking bleak.
unbelievable!
you’re back laz.
I feel fortunate to have the crappy job that I have. It may not be challenging and fulfilling but it pays the bills.
It’ll get better. Nothing ever stays the same.
Jim Robinson said he’s going to lay off a lot of Freepers soon. :(
Maybe more manufacturing and business types and far fewer attorneys and non-producers in state and federal congress would help.
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I might have to start figuring out what to do with the wheat I’ve been hauling from place to place for the last 40 years.
“Sorry to hear it. However, I have noticed that this recession appears to be a HUGE incubator of new businesses.”
And what would these new businesses be doing?
What’s amazing to me is that if you do a careerbuilder.com search, and I know this depends on your line of work, at least for mine still lots of jobs to be had.
However, now there will be a lot more competition for said jobs and you may have to be willing to relocate.
mmmmmmmmm....grubs!
Obomba's fault.
Aw, come on, guys. Get it right. First, drop the emotional terms like axed, shocking, inflicted, blah, blah. blah. Your job is to report it, not try to make it more or less than it is.
Second, cut the crap with using absolute numbers. Did it ever occur to you that there are more workers now than in 1974? Of course it did, but that wouldn't be as good a story. In fact, if you look at the relative job loss, 1993 under Clinton was worse. But then, that wouldn't fit your agenda of Blame Bush for everything and it might cast a piece of crap on your hero.
You guys in the MSM can't figure out why your jobs are going down the toilet, yet you publish crap like this. Hmmm...toilet...crap...makes sense to me.
NO IT WON'T MAN!!!1! IT'S ALL OVER MAN!!!1!!1!!
Just askin' :)
Suicide-prevention centers, mostly.
Laz returns to FR and the Dow is down another 180 points in early trading today. Coincidence?
Soylent Green.
Okay, fine. You’re right. We’re all DOOMED!
There. NOW I feel better. :)
I was telling my father the other day that the MSM is partly to blame for the economic turndown. They do their best to dramatize gloom and doom which snowballs into people’s collective consciousness.
The jobless rate is based on a survey, not who is applying for or receiving benefits. They explain the whole survey thing at bls.gov
Thanks! I'm sure they do :)
Who says they still can't cook the numbers? It's not like it hasn't been done before.
The zombies have been laid off. :(
There are more people in the workforce than in the past....so a large hike in the unemployed is not going to show up as mere higher percentages
Also, unemployment figures (pct) only count those who are seeking and getting unemployment compensation...it does not count those who do not file for unemployment (which many do not)
My in-laws lived through and remember the Depression very well. When they freak, I will :)
But I still would like to see those stats checked out. Trust but verify, baby :)
Gloom, despair, agony on me.
Deep dark depression,
Excessive misery!
Not sure that you were ever exposed to the cultural delights of Hee Haw but the opening of that song could become your mantra.
The job market is bleak. Both my daughters 22 and 30 are having one hell of a time finding jobs. The youngest has a Bachelor of Arts in Business Administration and Commications and the older one has an Associates in Nursing Degree, a nursing license and signed her for Bachelor of Science in Nursing.
Laz always comes back in when the Shiite hits the fan. Can’t help it——it’s just a thang folks don’t want to understand. Wow, the hedge fund managers, goobermint, OPEC, sub-prime orgy participants, etc., bled the globe with manipulating the price of oil futures with over leveraged monies through front companies. Now the $50-$70 trillion global derivatives ponzi scheme players are having to fess up the margin calls, and the buck keeps getting passed as those ‘investors’ faint.
Nope, no sign of recession here... The NBER is just making up new definitions as it goes along. I haven’t see two quarters of negative GDP so we CAN’T be in a recession. It’s all just a lie to get Obama elected, even weeks after the election. The lie will be completelyl exposed after Obama takes office. DOW 36,000!
Signed,
Danna Freepyanna
In fact, we can now officially rename that show to Boo Hoo.
Agony is my best friend.
“Who says they still can’t cook the numbers? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.”
Especially since it’s a survey.
My Husband quit a job selling capital equipment to the Automotive Industry at the beginning of the year to sell for me full-time. In spite of all our efforts, I've had less business this year than any other since I started in 1996.
Great timing. (sigh)
Now, we've found that we can't make enough to pay our bills and taxes, so he's been looking for a job since August. He's had a couple of good interviews, but both companies decided not to hire at all with increasingly bad economic news.
We've been on the cutting edge of this crisis for a few years; watching the jobs in the paper shrink down to nothing, all the while wanting to scream about the increasing impossibility of keeping manufacturing alive in the US.
Cummins let my engineer father go two days ago, nieces and nephews losing their jobs, my customers are going out of business at an alarming rate.
We've just about exhausted our life savings and I don't know what is going to become of our simple but once-comfortable lives.
Even though I've been expecting the complete collapse of US manufacturing, now that it is all coming to pass - I am scared to death.
If anybody out there can offer any advice for this conservative-living couple in Indiana, I would certainly welcome it. I am in utter despair - for my family and for our country.
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