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Posted on 12/04/2008 8:53:31 AM PST by Slings and Arrows
Earlier I noted that it's possible for the Dems to "steal" the MN senate seat, because the senate gets to decide who "wins". On the other side of the argument, however, is Michael Barone who makes a particularly noteworthy point: A consequence of Chambliss winning is that Al Franken’s importance as a possible addition to the Democratic Senate bloc diminishes...
This is especially true because getting Franken in the Senate would entail Obama (and the Dems) expending political capital that could be better used on other things. What is more, getting Franken in the Senate might not be worth the predictable backlash that would ensue if it were perceived to have been done in a heavy-handed manner.
Here's a excerpt of the Barone piece:
Chambliss's victory over Jim Martin means that the Democrats will not get 60 seats in the Senate, even if Al Franken somehow manages to overcome Norm Coleman's circa 300-vote lead in the Minnesota recount. Franken's only apparent recourse is to the courts or to the full Senate; I doubt he'll get anywhere in the courts, and I doubt that Barack Obama will want the Democrats to take on a bruising partisan fight to get a 59th seat in the Senate (though labor leaders, eager to pass the card check bill and knowing that Arlen Specter voted to cut off the filibuster against it in the outgoing Congress, may press for that).In short, Chambiss's victory might have also saved Norm Coleman...
FrankenBeans is cooked.............
This was my take also. IMHO, if Chambliss had lost, it would have been total war to get Franken in. To have the president and a filibuster proof congress- my word, we would have been dragged into a European socialism and there is not much we could have done about it. Not that they can’t do major damage now.
The one point I will make is this. Now that we have two (TWO!) senators keeping us from getting run over by the bulldozer, watch the dems to spin everything that goes wrong as STILL the GOP’s fault. And for the MSM to gleefully back them up, too.
I bet in four years you will still be seeing videos like “Why Barack Obama won”, where the people are still saying that the pubs control the congress.
calculating cutthroats
Sorry but as long as you have the likes of Specter and Voinovich etc. this magic 60 number is the most irrelevant topic on these pages. You can bet your boots that there is one or more RINO’s out there just waiting to openly side with the Messiah.
Ann Coulter predicts Franken will win the same way the Dem governor of Washington won: they both have the same “adviser,” a guy named Berendt who is an accomplished vote thief.
You have to figure a few dems, also don’t want that nut in the senate.
Word is.....there are more than just a few dems that won’t support Franken....
Uhhhh...what backlash from whom? The compliant, roll-over and play dead Republicans? The sheeple? The ninnies in MN who elected Jesse Ventura as their Governor? ROFLOL at the thought of a "backlash."
Perhaps,
But the election was almost a month ago. I should think it is unlikely that new uncounted ballots would appear now.
My thoughts too. The mysterious 300 votes against Frankin that recently appeared and that are freaking Frankin out, are probably because of the Chamblis win and the Democrat fraud wing saying, “Frankin, you just aren’t worth it now.”
It does give them an excuse for Obama being a miserable failure. Not, a good one, mind you, but they will make the most of it.
“Sorry but as long as you have the likes of Specter and Voinovich etc. this magic 60 number is the most irrelevant topic on these pages. You can bet your boots that there is one or more RINO’s out there just waiting to openly side with the Messiah”.
...also, you would be hard pressed to find ONE DINO that would side with pubs. On ANYTHING!
In Washington they kept appearing; in one instance 10,000 absentee ballots appeared out of nowhere - 2,000 more than had been sent out to that precinct but the “Republican” SecState accepted them. I wonder where she vacations now?
Many of problems we face at all levels of government is due to the fact that many elected “Republicans” are just trying to get along, to go along, to play nice.
Just a few days ago, Senator Collins from Maine, was shocked about how mean the Democrats were to her during the election.
To think some of her colleagues from the other side of the isle came to Maine and said bad things about her. A RINO that sees the light-naw!
Slow learners
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And Collins....and Snowe.
And McCain and Graham
But there are a number of blue dogs also. Where they exist, they need to be worked by the constituencies to which they have displayed any affinity - and hard. This could be the last stand.
For some reason, I never saw the final vote total in the Georgia run off vote. How much did Chambliss win by?
One exists in Nebraska.
Chambliss was somewhere over 60% I think.
Hagel is gone...replaced by a much more conservative Mike Johanns...
I was so thrilled when Hagel was gone.
So far the count is something like 316 for Coleman ahead of Franken, with 98% of the recount in. According to the latest number on Drudge.
I think that Justice should investigate Franken, ACORN, and every Dem voting fraud, corruption before Bush leaves office. Make them come before attorneys as they always want Pubs to do. I hope Coleman uses every legal action to stop Franken from stealing the election. Go all out and put him and the Dems on the hot stove.
>>Ann Coulter predicts Franken will win the same way the Dem governor of Washington won: they both have the same “adviser,” a guy named Berendt who is an accomplished vote thief.
I read that, but Ann might be wrong here because the Coleman - Franken case is getting much more national scrutiny because of the filibuster issue.
As seasoned a politician as he is- McCain seemed to have been caught off guard a time or two about the things dims would say about him. His “friends” across the aisle and in the media seemed to surprise him when they trashed him.
The RINOs will never learn they are only useful idiots to the left.
No, I was speaking of the moderate democrat, really the only one in the senate, from Nebraska. We will see how the new guy from Alaska turns out.
I think more than the RINO’s, the repub’s you will see flocking to Obama are the ones with no political courage or principles.
Kiss up to the boss types.
57% - 43%
Don’t be foolish OF COURSE they will still try to steal MN. A seat is a seat. 59 is better than 58.
Those chumps need to be replaced with conservative Republicans.
Chambliss may have also saved the life of an unnamed republican senator in addition to Coleman.
A wacko leftist would have to be sorely tempted to take out Collins, Snowe, Voinovich, Spectre, or other blue state republican if that meant getting 60.
And there are a lot of wacko leftists.
If the shoe were on the other foot, there would be more than a few wacko right wingers thinking something similar.
And McCain and Graham
And Coleman at times. I think it's likely he would have voted for amnesty last year but sensed that the wind was blowing from the opposite direction.
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