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Treasury mulling plan to reduce new mortgage rates: WSJ
Marketwatch ^ | Dec. 3, 2008 4:12 p.m. EST | Wallace Witkowski

Posted on 12/03/2008 1:35:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The Treasury Department may float a plan to reduce mortgage rates on new mortgages to boost the housing market, The Wall Street Journal reported late Wednesday on its Web site,

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; mortgagerates

1 posted on 12/03/2008 1:35:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I guess I’m out of luck with my 8-year old existing mortgage.


2 posted on 12/03/2008 1:36:13 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Those of us with existing mortgages get squat. Fine with me, i don’t need it, but hell, why should the government be in the business business? Let the damn free market work!


3 posted on 12/03/2008 1:36:56 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The government should drop everyones interest rates to 4%. Why just new home buyers? Punish the ones that are making their payments?


4 posted on 12/03/2008 1:37:11 PM PST by RC2 (Where is Obama's Birth Certificate??????)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Isn’t government intervention in mortgages what got us into this mess?


5 posted on 12/03/2008 1:37:44 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wasn't that half of how we got to the current mess?

The other half of how we got to now is not requiring much if anything down.

6 posted on 12/03/2008 1:37:51 PM PST by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nice to see the Treasury destroy our country.


7 posted on 12/03/2008 1:39:35 PM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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To: Sharrukin
"Isn’t government intervention in mortgages what got us into this mess?"

DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winner!

8 posted on 12/03/2008 1:42:24 PM PST by avacado
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Those of us with existing mortgages get squat. Fine with me, i don’t need it, but hell, why should the government be in the business business?

Because they screwed up so badly being in the government business.

9 posted on 12/03/2008 1:43:36 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: BGHater

It’s all great when you receive the benefit, but controlling market rates doesn’t work, and the treasury doesn’t have enough money to bail out the economy. The economy is us.

It’s so depressing reading article after article saying they are just setting us up for a worse disaster.


10 posted on 12/03/2008 1:44:39 PM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is pathetic. The true triumph of politics over economics. I don’t even know what to call it. Fascism, socialism, communism...none of those fit, but fascism is the closest. Keynes on crack?


11 posted on 12/03/2008 1:45:52 PM PST by M203M4 (GOP problem: failed to deliver on promises. Solution: promise instead what was already delivered?!?!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Time for me to sell my house to KarlInTheCaymanIslands, who will immediately sell it back to me with a new mortgage.
12 posted on 12/03/2008 2:08:57 PM PST by KarlInOhio (11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dow up big again. Hooray for Socialism!


13 posted on 12/03/2008 2:10:26 PM PST by montag813 (www.FreepShop.com)
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To: M203M4
I don’t even know what to call it.

Zombie economics

14 posted on 12/03/2008 2:14:00 PM PST by Black Birch
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

From what I read it doesn’t say new “homes” or “home buyers”, it says new “mortgages”. Couldn’t every simply refinance if the home appraises?


15 posted on 12/03/2008 2:17:13 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: KarlInOhio

You, sir are a genius!
I was starting to feel left out since I’m mortgage free! I simply don’t know how to be a good collectivist. I will follow your lead! Thanks!


16 posted on 12/03/2008 2:20:59 PM PST by griswold3
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To: All

Watching CNBC...much discussion on how this story was leaked,...Treasury seaching for leakee....concern that current lenders of 5% deals will be upset....plan not yet ready for prime time!


17 posted on 12/03/2008 2:42:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

“Those of us with existing mortgages get squat. “

Everyone who is self-reliant, paid their bills and fiscally responsible ... gets squat..

NO, correct that ... WE GET A TAX INCREASE.

End the crisis - make the tax cuts permanent.


18 posted on 12/03/2008 2:48:25 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM)
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To: WOSG

See #17!


19 posted on 12/03/2008 2:49:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: RC2

And how would the Govt force people with money in banks to get less in interest to PAY for this reduction?

Let me translate what you just said, so you understand the consequences of your statement:

“THE GOVT SHOULD TAKE MONEY FROM ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE (people who lent money above 4%) AND GIVE IT TO ANOTHER (people who borrowed above 4%)”

Are you a socialist or a thief? or both? I suspect neither, but are falling down the slippery slope we end up when we start down the ‘bailout’ primrose path. It will always be unfair to bailout one person and no bailout someone else. so the circle gets wider and wider until we realize that the whole concept is flawed and impossible.


20 posted on 12/03/2008 2:52:34 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM)
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To: BGHater

“Nice to see the Treasury destroy our country.”

Hank Paulson must be a mole for Obama. He’s trying to destroy the country before Obama gets in, so Obama wont get blamed for whatever mess he creates.


21 posted on 12/03/2008 2:53:42 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am getting REALLY tired of this BS.

Why not just GIVE NEIBORING HOUSES the existing properties?

HOw about allowing a new bankruptcy? Call it chapter 16 where a mortgage can be “crammed down” to the existing value of the home and the chapter 16 bankruptcy would, as a matter of law, not be used to negative reflect the public credit.


22 posted on 12/03/2008 2:54:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Williams

“It’s all great when you receive the benefit, but controlling market rates doesn’t work, and the treasury doesn’t have enough money to bail out the economy. The economy is us.”

Well said. We tried price controls in the 1970s and that screwed up that decade royally. Interest rate controls would destroy our investment climate for a decade. The stock market wont regain its highs until 2020 if this approach is followed.


23 posted on 12/03/2008 2:56:12 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The UK plan:

Homeowners Will Be Able To Defer Mortgage Repayments Under Gordon Brown Rescue Deal

"Homeowners will be able to defer payments on their mortgage for up to two years if they lose their jobs, under plans to cut repossessions announced by Gordon Brown."

24 posted on 12/03/2008 2:58:20 PM PST by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Reduced rates should effectively drive all potential investors out of the mortgage market. Wow are they smart!


25 posted on 12/03/2008 2:58:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When will this madness stop? Our government is actually punishing people who play by the rules and rewarding many who should be renting anyway. This is one sure fire way enrage voters to the point of revolution if this doesn’t stop.


26 posted on 12/03/2008 2:59:41 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As usual, the government lives in the bizaro world, where the answer to building more homes than there is a market for is to stimulate even more home building.

Isn’t this just price-fixing? Is it just me, or is fixing mortgage rates below the market rate going to result in what economists call a “shortage”? I can’t believe what Keynesian boobs these people are. The problem isn’t underconsumption, morons! It’s malinvestment!


27 posted on 12/03/2008 2:59:41 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: editor-surveyor; blam; Joan Kerrey; Tublecane

See #17!


28 posted on 12/03/2008 3:02:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Paulsen is an old Clinton buddy, maybe the leakage demons followed him.


29 posted on 12/03/2008 3:18:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obama - not just an empty suit - - A Suit Bomb invading the White House)
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To: WOSG

Who put you on a high horse? Look.....cut the interest rates and people will put that extra money back into the economy. Hell, if a guy bought the property next to mine for 4%, why wouldn’t I sell. My buyer would get the 4% anyway and I would buy something else at 4%. It’s just an idea anyway....don’t git your shorts all in a tangle.


30 posted on 12/03/2008 3:28:08 PM PST by RC2 (Where is Obama's Birth Certificate??????)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I do not see how this is such a hot idea if it involves giving someone who is on the brink of foreclosure access to a better deal than most other homeowners who are still making their payments on time have available to them.

You can’t get a 4.5% mortgage if your credit score was over 1000...but if you quit making payments three months ago in order to qualify for a government handout, you’re home free.

Hell, our mortgage isn’t anywhere near 4.5%...maybe we ought to quit paying our mortgage now so we’ll qualify for that rate too...

Someone please explain to me how something this discriminatory is either Constitutional or a good idea...


31 posted on 12/03/2008 3:35:55 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: RC2

Sorry, I have a thing about not liking Govt theft of property (aka socialism), and the mortgage contract is a form of property so rewriting them is theft.


32 posted on 12/03/2008 3:47:05 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM)
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To: RC2

It would be the fastest way back up. If you can refi, you can free up monthly cash for stuff. The banks can go scratch if they don’t like it. Sonsoguns are taking billions and daring to cut credit and raise card rates to 24%. What is wrong with this picture. The banks are getting cash at practically -0- and still can’t make money unless they charge 23%. I’d say if we had a real free market, new banks could do well. Lend to good people with spotless credit at good low rates as it should be. Half the existing banks are mortally wounded. They are trying to make up negative profits on volume.


33 posted on 12/03/2008 5:15:50 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Just refi.


34 posted on 12/03/2008 6:03:17 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: RC2

The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936&hl=en


35 posted on 12/04/2008 1:13:03 PM PST by thetru
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To: thetru

Thank you for this. I am in the middle of listening to it now. I have heard about the Federal Reserve before but not to this extent. Weird days ahead. Thanks again.


36 posted on 12/04/2008 2:27:26 PM PST by RC2 (Where is Obama's Birth Certificate??????)
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To: RC2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3051024550497129264&ei=RKc5SfOYK5mSrALB3dlp


37 posted on 12/05/2008 2:16:36 PM PST by thetru
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To: thetru

Thanks...........interesting questions about our countries debt. I would bet it goes back to the banks.


38 posted on 12/05/2008 3:11:01 PM PST by RC2 (Where is Obama's Birth Certificate??????)
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