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Authorities discovered the soy meal contained an astonishing 50 times the maximum limit of Melamine
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Posted on 12/02/2008 4:54:42 AM PST by Scythian

Want to know what organic chickens are fed? If it's soy meal from China -- a cheap source of protein -- it may also contain melamine.

That's what happened with 300 tons of soy meal being fed to organic chicken in western France. Authorities discovered the soy meal contained an astonishing 50 times the maximum limit of melamine: 116mg per kg of soy meal.

This cheap Chinese soy meal was delivered to 127 "organic" chicken farms in France. Nobody yet knows how many organic chicken farms in the U.S., Canada, U.K. or Australia might also be feeding their chickens toxic levels of melamine.

This is part of the dangerous widening of the melamine scandal I predicted earlier today: Melamine contamination is now reaching into the meat supply, and it could even include organic meats such as beef, pork and chicken.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinagate; melamine; organicchicken
Want to know what organic chickens are fed? If it's soy meal from China -- a cheap source of protein -- it may also contain melamine.

That's what happened with 300 tons of soy meal being fed to organic chicken in western France. Authorities discovered the soy meal contained an astonishing 50 times the maximum limit of melamine: 116mg per kg of soy meal.

This cheap Chinese soy meal was delivered to 127 "organic" chicken farms in France. Nobody yet knows how many organic chicken farms in the U.S., Canada, U.K. or Australia might also be feeding their chickens toxic levels of melamine.

This is part of the dangerous widening of the melamine scandal I predicted earlier today: Melamine contamination is now reaching into the meat supply, and it could even include organic meats such as beef, pork and chicken.

1 posted on 12/02/2008 4:54:43 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

If China is not hurt in their wallets, it will never end. These people don’t deserve for anyone to trade with them. It is never about accidents or unintended consequences but always greed.


2 posted on 12/02/2008 4:57:54 AM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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To: WildcatClan

I agree, we should ban food imports from China completely.


3 posted on 12/02/2008 5:01:09 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

They’ll buy food from China no questions asked but are scared to death of US genetically modified corn. Go figure.


4 posted on 12/02/2008 5:06:57 AM PST by DManA
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To: WildcatClan

While Googling for the origin and ingredients of a food supplement I saw at the store, I ran across several articles from a year and more ago, about melamine being found in protein powders made in China, including the soy, whey, and albumin varieties.

The story didn’t get the traction of the dog food and baby food reports. But it looks from the story above as if the issue is finally coming up again.

American food manufacturers can apparently use these contaminated Chinese **ingredients** and still label their products “Made in USA”.


5 posted on 12/02/2008 5:07:10 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: DManA

ChiCom Soy okay, FrankenCorn no okay...............Maybe we should try and sell them FrankenBeans instead?.........


6 posted on 12/02/2008 5:09:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: DManA

They like that word “organic”.


7 posted on 12/02/2008 5:34:22 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: angkor

A huge percentage of our food supplements/vitamins are manufactured in China (I think 90 percent of our Vitamin C comes from China.) It’s almost impossible to figure out what comes from China, or what Chinese imported ingredients make their way into our food supply.


8 posted on 12/02/2008 5:39:09 AM PST by Dawn531
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To: Scythian

Ban this stuff from China already. How many people are going to have to be poisoned before any of our “leaders” take notice?


9 posted on 12/02/2008 5:42:26 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: Scythian

Organic Melamine is WAY better for you than the artificial stuff/sarc


10 posted on 12/02/2008 5:47:02 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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To: Dawn531
>>>>A huge percentage of our food supplements/vitamins are manufactured in China<<<<<

It's easy enough to cruise around alibaba.com to see what's on offer from Chinese bulk wholesale suppliers.

As you mention:
ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
Place of origin: Shandong China
Payment Terms: L/C,T/T,30%+70%
Minimum Order Quantity: 3 Metric Ton
Supply Ability: 10000 Metric Ton per Year
Package: 25kg/carton or drums

Try this search:

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/Ascorbic_Acid_%2528_Vitamin_C_%2529.html

or....

http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN-suppliers/Vitamin_B_Complex.html

or.....

http://www.alibaba.com/catalogs/81804/Feed_Grade_Proteins.html

11 posted on 12/02/2008 5:55:49 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Dawn531
A huge percentage of our food supplements/vitamins are manufactured in China (I think 90 percent of our Vitamin C comes from China

I spend the big bucks on Solgar supplements in the hope that such a large and reputable outfit would not hazard its gold-plated reputation by sourcing ANYTHING, including bottle caps, from the chicom thugs. We should never have granted MFN status to those scumbags. A classic Faustian bargain which is killing us in many ways. When will the American sheeple ever wake up?

12 posted on 12/02/2008 6:00:50 AM PST by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: Dawn531

THIS IS OUR GOVERNMENT LETTING US DOWN, PERIOD!
We have few options on getting food.


13 posted on 12/02/2008 6:00:52 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: weegee

Well, melamine could be considered ‘organic’.
It is a derivative of a natural product. It’s better for plates though.
Considering the source(s), would plates made of ‘china’ from China (other), be any safer than melamine plates?

As an aside, I’ve wondered about the ‘organic’ products displayed on store shelves that are packaged in ...plastic trays and plastic stretch wrap.
And, those that are ‘free range’ in store plastic bins ... handled, rummaged through by how many? AAAAAAchooooo. thank you very much.

Personally, I consider the green/organic thingy a partial indicator or our economy. If it stays, our economy is still stumbling along.
If is starts to fade or falter... it could either be our economy or a resurgence of common sense.


14 posted on 12/02/2008 6:05:12 AM PST by This_far
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To: Scythian; DManA; weegee; Dawn531
here you go:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/11852569/Soy_Protein_Concentrate_For_Food_And/showimage.html


15 posted on 12/02/2008 6:05:38 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Bedford Forrest

>>>>I spend the big bucks on Solgar supplements in the hope that such a large and reputable outfit would not hazard its gold-plated reputation by sourcing ANYTHING, including bottle caps, from the chicom thugs.<<<<<

Call them and ask.

Post the results of your inquiry.

We should all be doing this. It’s an act of public service.


16 posted on 12/02/2008 6:09:03 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Scythian
is there some benign reason that melamine comes to be in food products or is this some deliberate contamination?

what is melamine and why and how does it come to find itself in a food product?

.

17 posted on 12/02/2008 6:12:04 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee

As I understand it, melamine tricks the tests for protein making the stuff look like it has a higher protein content than it does, making it more valuable. Melamine is cheaper than protein.


18 posted on 12/02/2008 6:18:01 AM PST by DManA
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To: Elle Bee

I read an article awhile back here at FR that stated in the text, almost in passing If IIRC that Melamine is quite prevalent in the basic Fertilizing products used throughout the Chinese Farming Industry.

I recall wondering, and still wonder as to how much that basis would cause difficulties down the chain of food production. Seems to me the Melamine would have to be added to the Fertilizer product(s) deliberately for some reason to even be there.

It’s my understanding from member postings that I have read here at FR the Chinese use the Melamine to increase protein in product, yet after all this time one would think they would have suffered enough economically with all the rejections by foreign Nations, and within their own borders healthwise as in illness and death to have reconsidered that theory, and would have stopped instilling the Melamine product in their fertilizer, much less anything else.

As the World suffers economically, and as the Chinese are also suffering economically, perhaps they will now change their procedures. The death and destruction by Melamine within their own borders seemingly didn’t improve their perspective on the matter, so perhaps the lack of profitablility will raise their level of consciousness on the matter.

Interim we buy nothing of foodstuffs we note made in China, nor do we buy anything vaguely labeled that we suspect is made in China.

Does anybody know if major bakery products do actually contain product/materials ie; dried milk product made in China? I/we worry about “English Muffins”, Cookies, Breads, etc., and similar product(s) mass produced and distributed around the country.


19 posted on 12/02/2008 6:49:10 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Scythian

“116mg per kg of soy meal.”

That’s still not a whole lot - about 1/10th of a gram per 1000 grams, or .01% by weight. Of course, there’s no good reason for there to be any at all.


20 posted on 12/02/2008 6:51:50 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: angkor
 While Googling for the origin and ingredients

After reading that I decided to Google  Melamine and here is all I needed to know

Melamine resin is manufactured by mixing urea with formaldehyde under heat and pressure

21 posted on 12/02/2008 7:01:41 AM PST by grjr21
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To: Scythian

But hey, it’s ten cents cheaper!


22 posted on 12/02/2008 7:04:25 AM PST by mysterio
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To: angkor
American food manufacturers can apparently use these contaminated Chinese **ingredients** and still label their products “Made in USA”.

You're absolutely right, they can. I have noticed on a lot of products it says, "USA/Imported". Well, duh. American manufacturers may have saved a little on these ChiCom ingredients but they may also have destroyed themselves in the process. The TV lawyer adverts will hit the airwaves in a few months, "Did you develop kidney stones after eating melamine-contaminated products?......If so, call and let us get you the money you deserve!" Pandora's Box Status: Open :)

23 posted on 12/02/2008 7:15:28 AM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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To: angkor

Thanks for that info.


24 posted on 12/02/2008 7:25:23 AM PST by gibsosa
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To: WildcatClan

Saw a TV news report showing a dark gray sludge-and-muck “pond” at a Chinese fish farm. There were workers slogging around in the nearly-black muck, grabbing and tossing the fish into baskets.

Just to seal the deal, the next scene illustrated how these fish “ponds” are loaded with **human contraceptive pills** by the bucketful, because the hormones make it easier for the fish to “breathe” in these disgusting cesspools. Next was a shot of a drained “pond”, and indeed there were gazillions of little white pills laying on the bottom. Whether they were contraceptive pills I don’t know, but why fabricate such a story?


25 posted on 12/02/2008 7:34:00 AM PST by angkor (Conservatism is not a religious movement.)
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To: Scythian
China: More Eggs Found Containing Melamine
26 posted on 12/02/2008 7:43:15 AM PST by blam
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To: Scythian

BAN ALL FOOD IMPORTS FROM CHINA IMMEDIATELY!!


27 posted on 12/02/2008 7:45:37 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
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If it’s been used in fertalizer it may take quite a while for it be removed from the soil. So it may continue to be found even if they quit using it.


28 posted on 12/02/2008 7:53:00 AM PST by glassylassie
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To: Scythian

Isn’t globalism wonderful? < / sarcasm >


29 posted on 12/02/2008 7:56:42 AM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: Scythian
In the news today:

China Reveals 300,000 Children Were Made Ill By Tainted Milk (Melamine)

30 posted on 12/02/2008 8:07:08 AM PST by blam
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To: Scythian

Somebody—does a chicken fed with this substance have this substance in the meat and eggs? It might not, necessarily, end up in the product.


31 posted on 12/02/2008 9:56:56 AM PST by Mamzelle (Boycott Peggy Swoonin')
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To: This_far
re: Personally, I consider the green/organic thingy a partial indicator or our economy. If it stays, our economy is still stumbling along. If is starts to fade or falter... it could either be our economy or a resurgence of common sense.)))

Whole Foods stock is shockingly low.

I shop organic...sometimes. But my politics are more like..."We've got to have at least some of our food produced in the US." The idea is to keep US farms alive to feed us later.

32 posted on 12/02/2008 10:00:24 AM PST by Mamzelle (Boycott Peggy Swoonin')
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To: Mamzelle

Who you going to believe, the FDA? The same FDA that lied about it being here in the US baby food supply, who only released it when forced to by law (thanks to the AP) and then abruptly said it was only 1PPM and that it was safe? If you believe the 1PPM and the “Safe” part then, ya, maybe the FDA can tell us don’t worry, animals being fed it don’t pass it on to humans ....


33 posted on 12/02/2008 10:48:16 AM PST by Scythian
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34 posted on 12/02/2008 5:38:17 PM PST by JACKRUSSELL
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Good Grief!!!


35 posted on 12/02/2008 5:48:47 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: angkor

Truthfully, I was surprised that the baby food report got any traction at all from our media. The sickos love their cats, dogs and horses more than their unborn babies.


36 posted on 12/02/2008 6:36:56 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: angkor
Saw a TV news report showing a dark gray sludge-and-muck “pond” at a Chinese fish farm. There were workers slogging around in the nearly-black muck, grabbing and tossing the fish into baskets.

Some of these places are attached to seafood restaurants with outhouses where the hole in the floor empties into the pond. How's that for synergy?

37 posted on 12/02/2008 10:11:30 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Mamzelle
Whole Foods stock is shockingly low.

Not at all. Whole Paycheck is the Saks Fifth Ave of grocery stores. In this economic environment, people can't afford Saks Fifth Ave.

38 posted on 12/02/2008 10:13:15 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: ScottinVA
Ban this stuff from China already. How many people are going to have to be poisoned before any of our “leaders” take notice?

Hopefully, some of them will get poisoned first. They are the reason this is happening, so they might as well suffer right along with the rest of us. That bunch of greedy, corrupt politicians in DC should be tried for treason and spend the rest of their lives in prison for what they have done to America/Americans!

39 posted on 12/02/2008 10:51:50 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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