Posted on 12/01/2008 12:59:28 PM PST by rabscuttle385
WASHINGTON, Dec. 1 (UPI) -- U.S. Senate Democrats say they likely will have a working filibuster-proof majority on key issues that could give early wins for President-elect Barack Obama.
Although the number of Democrats remains unknown -- two Senate races are undecided -- vote-counters indicate support from Republican moderates will free up bills such as healthcare reform or immigration reform halted by the current Congress by GOP maneuvering, The Washington Post (NYSE:WPO) reported Monday.
Democrats picked up seven Republican seats in last month's election to add to their majority when the next Congress convenes in January. In the current Congress, Democrats rely on two independents to reach a 51-vote majority.
"The truth is ... we will be fine on most major issues. We will almost always have some moderate Republican support," said Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.
(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...
Democrats are relying on moderate Republicans such as Maine Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, who are left of center on issues such as Medicare spending and the Iraq war, the Post said.
Other possible swing votes are Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., whose socially liberal views make him a prospective Democratic recruit on spending matters and Obama's judicial nominations, and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who has supported some Democratic initiatives, such as embryonic stem cell research funding, that likely will get an early airing during the next session.
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And folks were worried about the filibuster proof 60 majority.
Who needs it when you have RINOs?
Senator Voinivich, I’m talking to you!!
It was the Dems that killed them on these issues. The wet Republicans were more than offset by Democrats who had gotten themselves elected in Republican states by saying they were conservatives. For example, they wouldn't touch immigration amnesty. Is there reason to suppose things will be much different this time around?
What’s sad is with the overall move to center by the GOP, the Dems will get just what they want. It won’t be difficult at all. On any given issue there will be a rotating list of RINO’s who’ll cross over.
The only thing that matters is card check.
Even RINOS like McCain, Snowe, and Collins voted to filibuster.
Pretty much. The Rats have successfully emasculated the Republican Party.
You can bet that little Johnny McCain will be there with them to put his finger in our eye. He will give us ample proof of why we did not like him, you can count on that.
wow. didn’t see THAT coming.../s/
Just thinking out loud, I’m curious to see how far the rino/moderates will go. If they want any sort of leadership in the party, given the state of the base, then it would be in their interest to follow the party line more.
I think most here will be watching and will use their record against these rinos in the future. Hopefully Arizona freepers have begun working towards defeating McCain in the Arizona primaries.
But seriously republicans need to sell why this stuff is bad. The UAW bailout is already unpopular. It will be difficult to stop free giveaways unless we stir up deficit-mania and I see no sign of that.
I’ve said all along that John McLame is a RINO turd and have been creamed by some here for those statements.
Well I stand by what I said about this p.o.s., John McLame is garbage.
Don’t talk to Voinibitch, stone him.
Yep.
any given issue there will be a rotating list of RINOs wholl cross over
You have that exactly right. A rotating list.
Compassionate conservatism is doublespeak for republican socialist.
We need to ask McCain and other faux conservatives to change parties.
McCain, having played the role of Dr. Jekyll during the election, will now return to his role of Mr. Hyde in the Senate.
I agree. Even a RINO would be insane to support a bill to introduce union thugs to thousands of small businesses across the country. Absolutely insane.
80 % of the public is against card check. If Susan Collins et al vote for that, they ought to be ostracized fully by the RNC , Chamber of Commerce, every Rebublican interest group, etc (not that Id be willing to take bets, though)
I disagree, the Republicans have pretty much emasculated themselves.
I think the RINO’s would enjoy at least the next two years as real dims. If they won’t be even a “loyal opposition” at minimum, then they should get the hell out of the party so a real fight, of some kind, can be assembled.
Norm Coleman, while not full-fledged RINO material, is in that rotating group.
My fear is that if he wins re-election, he’ll come out more determined than ever to be “bi-partisan” and to “work across the aisle”.
Naw, these clowns only care about yakking it up with Rats at the D.C. cocktail parties. Time for conservatives to take over the Constitution Party.
Here's the problem - If Collins opposes it, she knows the Democrats will run someone against her when she's up for re-election. Doesn't matter how many times she has sided with Democrats, and I'm sure she's going to whine and say "but...but...I was bipartisan and worked with Dems" but the Dems don't care about that crap. Just like they targeted Lincoln Chaffee they're going to target the RINOs. And conservatives won't be around to help them.
Even FDR mocked me-too Republicans who sat there sniveling for Democrat's affection.
Specter was the only Repubican to support the bill last time it was brought up. Voinovich voted against it.
It also remains to be seen whether or not Democrats from anti-union, right-to-work states will vote to support it this time. Before they could vote in favor of it to please the unions, because they knew it would be filibustered/vetoed by Bush. I’m not sure if Mary Landreu, Kay Hagan, Ben Nelson, & Tim Johnson will vote to support card check.
Actually, there are probably a dozen “Republican” senators that will vote Democrat much of the time on roll calls, including people once considerec conservatives, like Voinovich of OH and Grassley of IA.
Haven’t you heard? The CofC went liberal with their “Bill” in 1993 and remains so.
The last Republican to lose a Senate primary was the unusual conservative Bob Smith of NH, who endorsed John F. Kerry in 2004.
Before that it was Jacob K. Javits, wasn’t it, in 1980?
Republican voters are too timid to retire liberals in the primaries.
Yes, sometimes McPain makes Tom Dewey look like a nice guy!
This MN woman senator must be the least known person in the entire body. At one time HHH and Gene McCarthy were among the best known of all senators. MN voters have been looking for socialist programs for two generations and are still looking ... in vain of course.
Yea, before it’s over, we are going to wish we had Gordon Smith back! A real OR backbone!
Ol’ John and Arlen both deserve new terms, Right?
Good God, the GoP really is for all intents and purposes dead.
lets win the Georgia and Minn Senate races first....worry later.....
80 % of the general public is still 60 % of Maine. Almost nobody who's voted for her will mind if she votes against it. OTOH, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer..
OTOH again, I doubt Nelson (Dem) of Nebraska will go for this. As for the others, I can't say I know for sure, but small business lobbies will go ballistic if this thing passes.
I want them to go ALL the way.
The sooner they will be "Palinized."
Everything matters.
I would love to see a solid challenger unseat him from the Right.
Pat Toomey almost got rid of this creep for us in '04, but he was back-stabbed by feckless RINO-enablers Bush and Santorum >:[
...both of whom are now gone!
Time to rock 'n' roll, PA conservatives!!!
Run, Kasich, run!!!
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