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Pentagon to Detail Troops to Bolster Domestic Security
Washington Post ^
| Monday, December 1, 2008
| Spencer S. Hsu and Ann Scott Tyson
Posted on 12/01/2008 7:52:18 AM PST by Historix
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To: Historix
The best possible Homeland Defense, IMO, would to offer a concealed carry permit to every citizen who is not a felon.
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posted on
12/01/2008 8:49:38 AM PST
by
conqueror
(an armed society is a polite society)
To: Historix
So we have lawyers interfering with military and intelligence operations, and now the prospect of the military interfering in law enforcement. Great.
BLOAT!!
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posted on
12/01/2008 8:51:32 AM PST
by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(The best thread on FreeRepublic is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts)
To: JimRed; Kitanis; bmwcyle
They’ll send southern rural troops against the inner cities, and urban troops against the southern suburbs and rural areas.Interesting. I think we did something exactly like that vis-a-vis JEB Stuart's rednecks in the north and Sherman's city boys in the rural south a while back.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:01:16 AM PST
by
sam_paine
(X .................................)
To: AU72
but it does give me pause having thousands of military assuming national law enforcement duties under the next President.Remember the N.O. Police chief saying: We are taking the guns. Nobody will be allowed to have guns but the military and the police. Then they brought in combat hardened troops from gun control states like Illinois to go dough to dough and seize them evil weapoons.
Perfect timing for Prez Hussein. I'll bet he's got his list and he's checkin' it twice....
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:04:00 AM PST
by
ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
To: HollyB
"I believe under Posse Comitatus, the military is allowed to be used for training civilian law enforcement and they are allowed to loan their equipment, etc..."
Put simply, the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 merely states that the Army cannot be used to fulfill a domestic role without the express authorization of Congress. I remain unimpressed by the tissue paper barrier imposed by congressional authorization.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:08:17 AM PST
by
PowderMonkey
(Will Work for Ammo)
To: Kitanis
It’s hard enough to train local law enforcement in my state that open carry of defensive firearms is legal and not a valid basis for stopping and questioning someone absent any other element, so I can’t possibly imagine what it’d be like with military personnel.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:09:27 AM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: Historix
Any mention of putting some troops on the border?
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:11:38 AM PST
by
AuntB
(The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
To: Scythian; Historix
let’s gear up from the eventual attack that we are going to just let happen. The USA doesn’t deserve to exist any longer frankly, it has forfeighted it’s inheritance ...I recommend a dark short story titled "Diner" from Perpetuity Blues and other stories by Neal Barrett, Jr.
It really tempers my thinking on these things.
It's a disturbing prevision of a post-nuclear Southeast Texas fishing community, occupied by Chinese communist peacekeepers. Think of a day when illegal mexicans are the least of your worries, and hell, your trading partners for food.
The way I look at it, the USA doesn't actually exist anymore. We are living the beginning of the post-Constitutional period. Last true demonstration of the Constitution was BillJeff's impeachment.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:16:57 AM PST
by
sam_paine
(X .................................)
To: AuntB
This only makes it that much easier to move from capitalism to socialism/Marxism.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:17:56 AM PST
by
yorkie01
To: sam_paine
The way I look at it, the USA doesn't actually exist anymore. We are living the beginning of the post-Constitutional period.
I totally agree, even the Obama birth certificate story I read said they will not ask him to prove he is a citizen because the Gore/Bush fiasco of late. Basically, law doesn't matter, the constitution has been discounted, we are off the tracks ...
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:23:32 AM PST
by
Scythian
To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Ouch! That is quite a post. Thank you so much for posting it. I think the Executive, legislative, and judicial branches need to be shown your refresher course.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:24:15 AM PST
by
GOP Poet
To: PowderMonkey
Years ago, good friend of mine in a inner city hood used to talk about cops who acted like they were in a warzone. There is some truth to that- the problem is sometimes with things like the drug war, some cops forget not everyone is a thug.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:29:42 AM PST
by
PghBaldy
(I shall call him President Little Squirt...)
To: Paine in the Neck
“something like a pair of lightning bolts, perhaps?”
Nah, it’ll probably be more like blue helmets.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:31:30 AM PST
by
Dr. Marten
("We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." ~ Aesop)
To: af_vet_rr
An uncomfortable truth: George Bush stopped being the friend of the people on January 20, 2005.
To: PghBaldy
The other issue is the failure this is- NOT preventing, but cleaning up the mess. They have been saying for years a nuke attack is not a case of “if,” but “when.” WHY even try to prevent, if you accept the inevitibily of it?
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:34:20 AM PST
by
PghBaldy
(I shall call him President Little Squirt...)
To: PowderMonkey
“Combat and law enforcement are two entirely different undertakings. Anyone who equates the two as being even remotely similar has no business being involved in either one. Mixing the two has proven a disaster everywhere it’s been tried.”
I see military police on patrol nearly every workday as I commute through New Orleans East. Been that way since Katrina. It no longer seems unusual. I feel better with military police around than the regular police force which consistently fails to uphold the Constitution. Confiscation by the NO police of legally carried weapons is still an ongoing problem here.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:40:13 AM PST
by
Kirkwood
To: Kirkwood
I should say that the military police I speak of are the LA National Guard, but I think most of you will know that already. I’m sure it seems strange to a visitor to see military police cars and Humvees patrolling the streets and issuing tickets, etc.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:45:08 AM PST
by
Kirkwood
To: Historix
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:45:17 AM PST
by
PghBaldy
(I shall call him President Little Squirt...)
To: hoosierham
“And this is why I shuddered when Bush created the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act.”
Me too. I never supported either, and I could never understand conservatives who did. Well, now people will begin to open their eyes, but it is of course much too late.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:46:45 AM PST
by
Cyberrat
(Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
To: Kirkwood
"It no longer seems unusual..."
I understand. However,you're talking about Military Police. The plan calls for the equivalent of 3 Army Divisions not to enforce law, but to impose order. Get back to us on that the first time it's you they pull from the vehicle, find on the street after curfew, or wind up on the receiving end of their "knock and announce" policy.
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posted on
12/01/2008 9:52:39 AM PST
by
PowderMonkey
(Will Work for Ammo)
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